Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Oct 12, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: CNN

Editor's note: Dean Obeidallah is an award-winning comedian who has appeared on TV shows such as Comedy Central's "Axis of Evil" special, ABC's "The View," CNN's "What the Week" and HLN's "The Joy Behar Show." He is executive producer of the annual New York Arab-American Comedy Festival and the Amman Stand Up Comedy Festival.

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Wrong again dumb dumb I posted the verses that show Polygamy was against God's will Many wives and warns if you do they will lead you astray is was the case of Solomon and David.
David had many wives before Bathsheba and he was opened to being lead astray and he murdered and committed adulatory and the root cause was his Polygamy. Just like what happened to Joseph Smith.
Sorry but you are in a Cult a Non Christian religion that was founded by a Pedophile man who committed Adultery practiced polygamy who was a crazy guy with magic hats and glasses who said he did more for mankind than did Jesus.
If he was alive today I am sure he'd live in Wacko TX.
You're not only a shallow minded child, but you're an amazingly pathetic small minded child. Don't disappoint me and post some more childish gibberish :)

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Yes I did he links lead to online PDF files clearly you did not bother to click, Holy underwear got you all tied up can't reach the mouse?
You're pathetically boring...
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Mormon cult wrote:
I meant to type "U didn't touch on polygamy""
Another thing....why do u lie to ur members that Joseph smith was martyred? Why do u compose him singing that he was "A poor wayfaring men" deceiving members to think that his death was like Christ death, that he was led like a lamb to his slaughter....afterall we know that he didn't die willingly for the lds church but resisted and end up murdering two people.... Isn't he a murderer?
Why do you have a problem with someone trying to defend himself. Your logic is disturbing.

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When it comes to No Surprise, he'll never let a little thing like facts interfere with what he believes.
lol...that's funny coming from a guy that say's it's God's honest truth that rumours are as factual and true as God's own words are...lolol.
You and Egypt are two peas from the same pod. You both believe second hand information and rumours are just like scientifically proven facts...well you two just keeping on thinking the way you do...lol.
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Why do you have a problem with someone trying to defend himself. Your logic is disturbing.
maybe because Mormons paint a different picture of what actually happen and lied to lds members about it.....why do u try and defend such an obvious lie. Are u that dumb??

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So are u saying it's ok for Mormons to drink and smoke....it seems to me u r contradicting ur own word of wisdom...so Joseph smith wrote up the word of wisdom for every lds member to follow, but for him (the prophet) it's ok to have a drink and a smoke occasionally.... This is bullcrap 
I think u r lying and u have been deceived And r trying to deceive others. u r following a nutcase  who pretend to be a prophet...
I didn't touch on polygamy.... Is ur church thinking of practicing it in the future since it's still in your scriptures?
1 A Word of Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—

2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the word of wisdom, showing forth the order and will of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

5 That inasmuch as any man drinketh wine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.

6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, pure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.

7 And, again, strong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.

8 And again, tobacco is not for the body, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgement and skill.
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Key words, "..not by commandment or constraint.."
It is okay for a LDS person to smoke and or drink. But God is saying that he recommends 'strongly' that you don't.
The church has evolved a policy that if you become a member of the church, not only will you seek to clean your mind of it's past impurities of thought through repentance, but (if it needs to be done) you will also clean your body of it's impurities like smoking and drinking and caffeine by quitting those things.
So the church has evolved policies that they believe please God concerning the flesh and the habits we subject to it which aren't good. So though smoking and drinking and caffeine products don't fall under a commandment not to do, if you wish to please God you would quit those things.
Polygamy is no longer practiced in the LDS church with head quarters in Utah. If you do partake in it you can be excommunicated. I have no idea if the practice will resume in the future.

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I meant to type "U didn't touch on polygamy""
Another thing....why do u lie to ur members that Joseph smith was martyred? Why do u compose him singing that he was "A poor wayfaring men" deceiving members to think that his death was like Christ death, that he was led like a lamb to his slaughter....afterall we know that he didn't die willingly for the lds church but resisted and end up murdering two people.... Isn't he a murderer?
In the context of dying for his religious believes, Smith was a martyr. He died for his beliefs. It is why he was jailed. It is why mobs of people chased him all his life, no matter what you think of him. It was why that angry mob stormed that jail, armed, ready to kill what they thought were unarmed men. M L King died a martyr for his beliefs in all men having equality in the law. But he wasn't led to a slaughter.
Smith at first was led to a slaughter like a lamb. It is why he said it. He understood the possibility that a mob could storm the jail, take him and hang him or kill him was very possible. That portion of the story is where that comes from. But he still died a martyr for his religious beliefs because his religious beliefs got him killed.
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1 A Word of Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—
2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the word of wisdom, showing forth the order and will of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—
5 That inasmuch as any man drinketh wine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.
6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, pure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.
7 And, again, strong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.
8 And again, tobacco is not for the body, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgement and skill.
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Key words, "..not by commandment or constraint.."
It is okay for a LDS person to smoke and or drink. But God is saying that he recommends 'strongly' that you don't.
The church has evolved a policy that if you become a member of the church, not only will you seek to clean your mind of it's past impurities of thought through repentance, but (if it needs to be done) you will also clean your body of it's impurities like smoking and drinking and caffeine by quitting those things.
So the church has evolved policies that they believe please God concerning the flesh and the habits we subject to it which aren't good. So though smoking and drinking and caffeine products don't fall under a commandment not to do, if you wish to please God you would quit those things.
Polygamy is no longer practiced in the LDS church with head quarters in Utah. If you do partake in it you can be excommunicated. I have no idea if the practice will resume in the future.
Come on man, u can do better than that...u post up these lies and expect me to believe in them....,sorry can't do....word of wisdom is a law that prohibit lds from drinking and smoking...I'm just laughing here cause u r the first to say that lds leaders are ok to drink and smoke occasionally...
So when prophet Thomas s monson is stressed he goes out for a drink and hang out at the bar? Lololol

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Come on man, u can do better than that...u post up these lies and expect me to believe in them....,sorry can't do....word of wisdom is a law that prohibit lds from drinking and smoking...I'm just laughing here cause u r the first to say that lds leaders are ok to drink and smoke occasionally...
So when prophet Thomas s monson is stressed he goes out for a drink and hang out at the bar? Lololol
Well state what you wish with pathetic idiocy. I pasted verbatim What Smith said God said concerning the WoW.
I'll paste it again for you :)

"2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint,.."
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maybe because Mormons paint a different picture of what actually happen and lied to lds members about it.....why do u try and defend such an obvious lie. Are u that dumb??
So there was no mob, Joseph and Hyrum had bazookas, and it was not jail. It was a 5 star resort. What kind of picture are you make believing?

You are not smart.
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The differences on essential beliefs in the LDS is so drasitic and different from Christianity in the NT there is no way one can claim LDS are Christian.

Below is some excerpts for a completely footnoted article that accurately quotes LDS documentation that shows with out a doubt LDS MORMONS are not Christians.

“We're Christians just like you!”

http://www.mrm.org/we-are-christians-just-lik...

It is difficult to comprehend why Mormons would say they are Christians “just like us” given that the foundation of their church presupposes that all professing Christian churches outside of the LDS Church are in a state of apostasy. Do Mormons who make this claim really think they too are “apostates”? Putting that aside, you need to ask yourself some important questions before automatically accepting the notion that the differences separating Christians from Mormons are insignificant. For instance, if your Mormon friend is really a “Christian just like you,” does that mean you believe:

God was not always God?
God is a glorified, perfected human being with a body of flesh and bones?
God is only one among many Gods?
God is married?
Jesus is the spirit-brother of Lucifer?
Jesus is the literal “Son of God” who was begotten naturally by an immortal Father?
Christians are saved by grace coupled with works?
Grace is given by God only after a person has denied themselves of all ungodliness?
Humans can become Gods?
Mankind must believe Joseph Smith was a prophet of God in order to get into heaven?
Christianity ceased to exist after the death of the Twelve Apostles?
The Apostle John is still alive?
American Indians are “Jewish”?
The Garden of Eden was located in Missouri?

For each of the above is a complete paragraph at the link above showing this is LDS belief which is clearly not Christian belief

Truth Matters Mormons are not Christians the Bible tells us so.

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lol...that's funny coming from a guy that say's it's God's honest truth that rumours are as factual and true as God's own words are...lolol.
You and Egypt are two peas from the same pod. You both believe second hand information and rumours are just like scientifically proven facts...well you two just keeping on thinking the way you do...lol.
Are you trying to claim the the first vision is a "scientific fact"? The Book of Mormon? You swallow those fantasies, hook, line, and sinker. We believe that a man had sex with his so-called wives. What is more likely to be true? The first vision, or that he screwed women he claimed the Lord wanted him to marry?

We are two peas from the same pod, we're not buying Smith's or your BS. "Run Forrest, run!"

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Well state what you wish with pathetic idiocy. I pasted verbatim What Smith said God said concerning the WoW.
I'll paste it again for you :)
"2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint,.."
Fine, try joining the Mormon church without giving up smoking or drinking. And if it wasn't a commandment when Smith "revealed" it, it shouldn't be one now. Proof that Mormonism is man made crap labeled religion. No member of the LDS church should have to live a higher standard than Smith.

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In the context of dying for his religious believes, Smith was a martyr. He died for his beliefs. It is why he was jailed. It is why mobs of people chased him all his life, no matter what you think of him. It was why that angry mob stormed that jail, armed, ready to kill what they thought were unarmed men. M L King died a martyr for his beliefs in all men having equality in the law. But he wasn't led to a slaughter.
Smith at first was led to a slaughter like a lamb. It is why he said it. He understood the possibility that a mob could storm the jail, take him and hang him or kill him was very possible. That portion of the story is where that comes from. But he still died a martyr for his religious beliefs because his religious beliefs got him killed.
He was jailed for destroying a printing press, not because of how he believed. He was going to be charged with adultery also, but was killed to soon. He was a martyr for perverted living. He was killed, but he was anything but a lamb. He was killed for his sicko thieving perverted ways. He thought himself above all laws of decency. The only shame is that a crowd didn't kill him in New York.

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You're pathetically boring...
Newsflash: Pot calls Kettle black! LOL!!!
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He was jailed for destroying a printing press, not because of how he believed. He was going to be charged with adultery also, but was killed to soon. He was a martyr for perverted living. He was killed, but he was anything but a lamb. He was killed for his sicko thieving perverted ways. He thought himself above all laws of decency. The only shame is that a crowd didn't kill him in New York.
You got it right Final Moments at Carthage Jail and the Death of Joseph Smith
http://www.mrm.org/death-of-joseph-smith

in response, Smith (who was also Nauvoo's mayor) and the Nauvoo city council voted to declare the paper a public nuisance and sent an order to the city marshal that stated, "You are here commanded to destroy the printing press from whence issues the Nauvoo Expositor, and pi [scatter] the type of said printing establishment in the street, and burn all the expositors and libelous handbills found in said establishment" (History of the Church 6:448). The act was carried out as ordered on June 10th.
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Sodomites celebrating the death of a man who told the whole world & anybody who'd listen he saw God Almighty himself, and not one but several angelic resurrected Apostles instruct him that

the other Christians would boil down to a bunch of

Pro-Sodomites celebrating the death of a man who told the whole world He was the SON
of his FATHER
and
that he was his Only begotten Son.

After his FATHER overshadowed a woman and made her pregnant.
With HIM.

Pro-Sodomites celebrating their conclusion
God isn't a man
He can't make a woman pregnant,

Jesus Christ isn't a man
because
Jesus Christ never WAS a man,
much less

the SON of MAN.

Pro-Sodomite "Christians"

celebrating murder

and their "Biblical based" doctrine regarding said

Son
of
Man's

"fraudulently misrepresenting Himself"
as

(1) a Man
(2) Son of a Man who
(3)made His mother pregnant

Pro-Sodomites claiming the entire Bible isn't bounded by repeated expression of polygamy as the family organization.

Sociopathological Pro-Sodomite Christians

explaining themselves clearly

while celebrating murder.
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Pro-Sodomite Christians celebrating murder?

If what they're saying's right,

if you Google "Jewish Polygamy"

the Jews themselves won't tell you that not only were they polygamous for about 4,000 years or whatever,

but that they didn't stop till the year 1,000.

But see if you do check these sociopathological pro-Sodomite's lies they tell,

while they're celebrating murder,

you WILL find out that they DID practice polygamy for some 4,000 years, or whatever,

and that they DID practice it until the year 1,000.

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concerned in Eygpt wrote:
... blah, blah, blah...
For someone who is not a Mormon
you have spent a lot of time
developing your
ninja 'anti-CHRIST-key' skills
on a religion that you don't believe in
or have any use for.

It is obvious

you have a hidden agenda.

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sportxmouse wrote:
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For someone who is not a Mormon
you have spent a lot of time
developing your
ninja 'anti-CHRIST-key' skills
on a religion that you don't believe in
or have any use for.
It is obvious
you have a hidden agenda.
I don't think it is hidden at all. He's warning people what a farce Mormonism is. What a Christian religion it is not. Plain as the nose on your face.

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