Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32003 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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Father overtime

Salt Lake City, UT

#19739 Jan 9, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Do you know what they call a man born without a penis? A woman.
Eunuchs are men that had the penis removed at birth and assigned a life of servitude to protect those of higher status. They were slaves. Go take a history class in college and you will learn that. Please stop teaching falsehoods. You are persuasive against those that don't have reading and comprehension skills. You could be accused of worse, but I doubt you understand what context scripture is written and yet you claim to teach truth. Shockingly ignorant and unqualified to teach or bash any religion.

Dana, you will never get another copy paste script passed me again. You are a jackal. I've been reading this thread for a year and know exactly who you are. You've persuaded people I Know to join your Internet cult, and I'm going to get them and show them the idiocy of your remarks. If they stay, it is up to them. But I will make sure every person that reads your half stories understands your motivation. You hate truth, and are proud of your deceptions. You will need an apologetics team just to keep up with every refutation of your falsehoods. Your "church" is going to be gone soon.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19740 Jan 9, 2013
Father overtime wrote:
<quoted text>
Eunuchs are men that had the penis removed at birth and assigned a life of servitude to protect those of higher status. They were slaves. Go take a history class in college and you will learn that. Please stop teaching falsehoods. You are persuasive against those that don't have reading and comprehension skills. You could be accused of worse, but I doubt you understand what context scripture is written and yet you claim to teach truth. Shockingly ignorant and unqualified to teach or bash any religion.
Dana, you will never get another copy paste script passed me again. You are a jackal. I've been reading this thread for a year and know exactly who you are. You've persuaded people I Know to join your Internet cult, and I'm going to get them and show them the idiocy of your remarks. If they stay, it is up to them. But I will make sure every person that reads your half stories understands your motivation. You hate truth, and are proud of your deceptions. You will need an apologetics team just to keep up with every refutation of your falsehoods. Your "church" is going to be gone soon.
Yet Jesus talked about eunuchs that were born that way. The method you describe is not cause by birth. Words mean something.

“For there are eunuchs born thus from their mother's womb.“

How can a man who's testicles were surgically removed be “born thus from his mothers womb?”“Born thus” does not include anything that involves surgical alteration.“Born thus” exclusively includes the way God made him. The way he developed in the womb, physically and mentally. So who is the eunuch that is “born thus?”

To find the eunuch that is “born thus” one needs to read the
chapter from the beginning. This section of the chapter talks about
marriage that is an intimate physical relationship traditionally
between a male and female. The last words used in many Christian
marriage ceremonies is found there,“what God has joined together let
no man separate.” It also talks about adultery and divorce. One is
the betrayal and the other the ending of an intimate physical
relationship.

Following this discussion the question is asked,“His disciples
said to Him,“If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is
better not to marry?” But he said to them,“all cannot accept this
saying, but only those to whom it has been given.” Matthew 19:10
and 11. Scholars tend to think that Matthew 19:12 speaks of people
apart from the normal heterosexual relationships because of the
question the disciples asked. The surgically altered eunuch is
outside the normal heterosexual relationship and is more aptly
explained by :“eunuchs who are made eunuchs by men.” Then there
are “eunuchs who are eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake.” Monks
and priests who have either taken a vow of celibacy and /or castrated
are outside normal heterosexual relationships. But who is the eunuch
that is outside normal heterosexual relationships and is “born thus
from his mother's womb?”

This is clearly a reference to homosexuals. But keep on giving the good fight. I love to proving Mormonism wrong. I love proving homophobes wrong also.
pearl

Syracuse, UT

#19741 Jan 9, 2013
Father overtime wrote:
<quoted text>
Eunuchs are men that had the penis removed at birth and assigned a life of servitude to protect those of higher status. They were slaves. Go take a history class in college and you will learn that. Please stop teaching falsehoods. You are persuasive against those that don't have reading and comprehension skills. You could be accused of worse, but I doubt you understand what context scripture is written and yet you claim to teach truth. Shockingly ignorant and unqualified to teach or bash any religion.
Dana, you will never get another copy paste script passed me again. You are a jackal. I've been reading this thread for a year and know exactly who you are. You've persuaded people I Know to join your Internet cult, and I'm going to get them and show them the idiocy of your remarks. If they stay, it is up to them. But I will make sure every person that reads your half stories understands your motivation. You hate truth, and are proud of your deceptions. You will need an apologetics team just to keep up with every refutation of your falsehoods. Your "church" is going to be gone soon.
Wow, when you said you were scared, you really meant it. This is going to be interesting, let the show begin...

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19742 Jan 10, 2013
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, when you said you were scared, you really meant it. This is going to be interesting, let the show begin...
I clearly have shown him something he can no longer deny, and it is scaring him. That is a post of a man who has had his faith shaken.

Where have you been, Pearl? I missed you.
jjepsen

Brasília, Brazil

#19744 Jan 10, 2013
To be a Christian one must follow the doctines of Christianity. Christianity follows the doctrine that 1. Jesus Christ IS God (see John 1:1 & 1:14) he was not created by God. 2. God always existed, he was not a imperfect man exhalted to perfection. 3.There is only 1 God, there never was a God before nor will there be one after (see Isaiah & Revelations) These and many other Christian doctrines are in direct conflict with Mormon doctine and teachings, therefore, Mormons cannot say they are "Christians"when they clearly do not follow doctrine of Christianity. This is not a anit-mormon statement but a statement of fact.
Father overtime

United States

#19745 Jan 10, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
I clearly have shown him something he can no longer deny, and it is scaring him. That is a post of a man who has had his faith shaken.
Where have you been, Pearl? I missed you.
The only thing I am afraid of is your ability to persuade others with your false interpretations and opinions. You sure talk big behind your computer, and on a sidewalk with police watching. But what do you do when your speech isn't protected oh deceived sign holder?
jjepsen

Brasília, Brazil

#19746 Jan 10, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Following Joseph Smith won't save you either, o matter how many signs you carry.
Correct! To be a Christian one must follow the doctines of Christianity. Christianity follows the doctrine that 1. Jesus Christ IS God (see John 1:1 & 1:14) he was not created by God. 2. God always existed, he was not a imperfect man exhalted to perfection. 3.There is only 1 God, there never was a God before nor will there be one after (see Isaiah & Revelations) These and many other Christian doctrines are in direct conflict with Mormon doctine and teachings, therefore, Mormons cannot say they are "Christians"when they clearly do not follow doctrine of Christianity. This is not a anit-mormon statement but a statement of fact.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19748 Jan 10, 2013
Father overtime wrote:
<quoted text>
The only thing I am afraid of is your ability to persuade others with your false interpretations and opinions. You sure talk big behind your computer, and on a sidewalk with police watching. But what do you do when your speech isn't protected oh deceived sign holder?
In the good ole U.S. of A. my speech is always protected. Threats of violence wouldn't shut me up, however. Submitting to oppression or fear is how we lose our freedoms.

If you really are determined to commit violence on my person, a simple google search will tell you where I live. But understand, I'm a proud member of the NRA.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19749 Jan 10, 2013
jjepsen wrote:
<quoted text> Correct! To be a Christian one must follow the doctines of Christianity. Christianity follows the doctrine that 1. Jesus Christ IS God (see John 1:1 & 1:14) he was not created by God. 2. God always existed, he was not a imperfect man exhalted to perfection. 3.There is only 1 God, there never was a God before nor will there be one after (see Isaiah & Revelations) These and many other Christian doctrines are in direct conflict with Mormon doctrine and teachings, therefore, Mormons cannot say they are "Christians"when they clearly do not follow doctrine of Christianity. This is not a anti-mormon statement but a statement of fact.
Amen. They deny the grace of Jesus Christ, and want to earn there reward by their own righteousness, denying the righteousness of Jesus Christ. I was blind to that for 33yrs because I so wanted the LDS church to fit. But it never will.
pearl

Syracuse, UT

#19750 Jan 11, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
I clearly have shown him something he can no longer deny, and it is scaring him. That is a post of a man who has had his faith shaken.
Where have you been, Pearl? I missed you.
Well thank you, that's nice. I thought I would check in to see if any of Carys so called livestock have starved or froze to death while he wonders around the wilderness for a week. I was kinda concerned about that, since I've been reading prior posts. I know he likes to think he's taming the chaos of the west. Anyway, I doubt this post makes any sense to you, but that is where my head is at. But, Happy New Year.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19751 Jan 11, 2013
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Well thank you, that's nice. I thought I would check in to see if any of Carys so called livestock have starved or froze to death while he wonders around the wilderness for a week. I was kinda concerned about that, since I've been reading prior posts. I know he likes to think he's taming the chaos of the west. Anyway, I doubt this post makes any sense to you, but that is where my head is at. But, Happy New Year.
If he does has flock, or herd, I do hope he is smart enough to have someone keep an eye on them while he plays Daniel Boone.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19762 Jan 17, 2013
I think a bear must have eaten Cary. He's bear poop now.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#19763 Jan 17, 2013
Lol I leave for a bit and the conversation has switched to....... Bear poop ??

“ Soon: too late to protest”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#19764 Jan 19, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Cary problem is that he's an idiot. The show was brilliant in how the explained and destroyed the Joseph Smith story. I used it to give my child her first lesson in Mormonism. It worked, every time I say "LDS church" she says "dumb dumb dumb dumb.. dumb dumb.
It’s good to teach kids early so it stays with them for life, and helps them reject all the lies they hear.

“ Soon: too late to protest”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#19765 Jan 19, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
From what I understand, the only babies that are be adopted to gay men are the Aids infected ones. The last baby anybody wants. If true, I don't have a problem with that. Child molestation is a problem with all groups, not just homosexuals. More and more women are being caught molesting boys also. Look at the raise of female teachers being caught having sex with their students.
I don’t know, but I heard differently. One thing - they might be able to adopt healthy kids is fear of lawsuits for discrimination.
Either way, it’s a tough one. In a better world, kids wouldn’t have aids, but we have to do the best with the situations we can’t prevent.

“ Soon: too late to protest”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#19766 Jan 19, 2013
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> Or you could just ask a Mormon. Though I'm sure that would just give you the truth, which you obviously are not looking for.
Since you're not acquainted with either common sense or logic, NO, you go to someone's critics to get the information you need to make an intelligent decision, along with witnesses.
It's DUMB to go to those who are brainwashed for the truth. They're living in a world of lies, just as Catholics, lots of Protestants, atheists, etc.
The truth is not what most people want to hear.

“ Soon: too late to protest”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#19767 Jan 19, 2013
Criticism of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
(next post)

“ Soon: too late to protest”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#19768 Jan 19, 2013

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#19770 Jan 19, 2013
Protester wrote:
<quoted text>
Since you're not acquainted with either common sense or logic, NO, you go to someone's critics to get the information you need to make an intelligent decision, along with witnesses.
It's DUMB to go to those who are brainwashed for the truth. They're living in a world of lies, just as Catholics, lots of Protestants, atheists, etc.
The truth is not what most people want to hear.
LOL!!! I am not acquainted with common sense or logic, yet you are the one posting south park websites as a place to gain truth?? I have actually seen that episode of south park and found it quite funny. I have a sense humor. However, looking to south park for gospel truth is ludicrous. If you want the truth about something, ask people who practice it. Hell, ask people who have left it. Even many of them will give you truth. but asking a person who has never practiced the faith is ridiculous. Get your head out of the sand.
Btw way, DUMB is a person who can not speak or hear. I think you were looking for a different term :)
MUSA

Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

#19771 Jan 19, 2013

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