Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32098 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

Editor's note: Dean Obeidallah is an award-winning comedian who has appeared on TV shows such as Comedy Central's "Axis of Evil" special, ABC's "The View," CNN's "What the Week" and HLN's "The Joy Behar Show." He is executive producer of the annual New York Arab-American Comedy Festival and the Amman Stand Up Comedy Festival.

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#28464 Oct 29, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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Right, sad you don't even know what happened in your own state. Maybe you should watch "You Betcha!"
You're a real retard. I really hate calling names but when someone defines a word so well as you have, concerning what you think you know of Palin that you don't know, you thus write like a rumor whoring retard not caring what you say.
Maybe you'll chase this link and read some info from a lady that personally knew her and her politics. Get educated. I have more links if you need them.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/info/kilkenny....

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Earth

#28466 Oct 29, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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Right, sad you don't even know what happened in your own state. Maybe you should watch "You Betcha!"
lol...and you do? You the one doing your rumor whoring that Palin burned books? Fricking pleaseee dump the retarded mentality.

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10 responses to “The Sarah Palin Book Burning Smear”

Steve Nator
Steve Nator
September 8, 2008 at 11:38 pm | Permalink
so since it is a lie please tell us the actual list of books Ms Palin did in fact try to ban in the well documented fight with her local librarian

AmericanElephant
AmericanElephant
September 9, 2008 at 9:03 am | Permalink
Steve,

Try getting your news from somewhere other than the Daily Kos. She didn’t try to ban any books. SHE DIDN’T TRY TO BAN ANY BOOKS. It has *not* been well documented because it didn’t happen.

This is what did happen.

Newly elected Mayor Palin asked the librarian for insight on how to respond to questions from citizens that mayor’s office received requesting that a book is banned. It was a rhetorical question. The librarian told her, rightly, that they don’t ban books. That was the end of it. No books were ever banned, and no requests to ban books were ever received by the librarian. Try doing some research on your own instead of just drinking the Kool-Aid.

Did she also tell the librarian she was going to fire her? Yes, but pay attention to context. Did she actually fire her? No. Was it related to the request for information about banning books, No. Mayor Palin sent the librarian a letter asking for her support for her policies regarding the library system, et all… and let it be known that without her support, the librarian would be replaced (as she did with ALL department heads). This happens at ever level of government, new leadership comes in and they are asked for their loyalty or resignation. It wasn’t just for the library and in fact the librarian didn’t leave. AND IT WASN’T RELATED TO BOOK BANNING AND NO BOOKS WERE EVER BANNED.

By the way, the librarian did get a little testy about the question, understandably, but even SHE says no books were banned and it never came up again. So get a grip.

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Sources included this from 1996 when this all actually happened:
http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2008/09/...

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Also check out this:
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.h...

QUOTE:

Were any books censored banned? June Pinell-Stephens, chairwoman of the Alaska Library Association’s Intellectual Freedom Committee since 1984, checked her files Wednesday and came up empty-handed.

Pinell-Stephens also had no record of any phone conversations with Emmons about the issue back then. Emmons was president of the Alaska Library Association at the time.Books may not have been pulled from library shelves, but there were other repercussions for Emmons.

Four days before the exchange at the City Council, Emmons got a letter from Palin asking for her resignation. Similar letters went to police chief Irl Stambaugh, public works director Jack Felton and finance director Duane Dvorak. John Cooper, a fifth director, resigned after Palin eliminated his job overseeing the city museum.

Palin told the Daily News back then the letters were just a test of loyalty as she took on the mayor’s job, which she’d won from three-term mayor John Stein in a hard-fought election. Stein had hired many of the department heads. Both Emmons and Stambaugh had publicly supported him against Palin.

END QUOTE.

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#28467 Oct 29, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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Trooper gate.
Yes, that was a ugly mess. Good people got hurt on both sides.

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#28468 Oct 29, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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LOL..so Mormons need garments so they won't be monsters??..makes perfect sense actually.
Excellent point! Look at yourself on the opposite end. You don't need any garments to be the monster of really vile, filthy disturbing dark remarks you state here every other day. You fake everyone out by dressing normally! Too fricking funny! lol....

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

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#28470 Oct 30, 2013
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>You know what else you wont find in a true tribal culture? Well, prophets for one. Also they lack crime, addiction, corruption, depression, prisons just to name a few. As you have pointed out endlessly, in your culture half your women are addicted to pharmaceuticals, half your men rape other men, half your`sons and daughters are molested, your dependent on prophets to tell you the right way to live, half your population is afraid to walk the streets of their own neighborhood. These things are lacking in a true tribal culture. Also, your culture is dependent on growth, unlimited growth, at the expense of other cultures. A true tribal culture lives a sustainable lifestyle. A true tribal culture lives within the laws of limited competition provided by nature. There is consensus among the people. And some of these tribal cultures have existed for tens of thousands of years, living content lives. But now, due to your continuous expansion and conquer methods their ancestral lifestyle is threatened. Hell, you've made war a commerce, a business venture. And you claim your civilized and tribal people are savages. You've gone against the natural law, that's why so many in your society don't fit and struggle and are never content. Christianity is indeed a dark and corrupt path.
I'm not exactly sure where you are coming from because last year you stated the following:
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>I was born into the Hopi-Navajo community, And I'm not fluent in any language.
15532
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, it is amazing how dumbed down we are. I left when I was seven, and was assimilated into a whole new culture, the school system didn't expect much from me to say the least. So, hopefully you won't hold it against me. But I am a product of the society I live in.
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pearl wrote:
<quoted text>At my age I think I can be held culpable. Are you looking for reason to see me as less than human, non-christian, half-breed, uneducated, worked in an unfit industry, we're well on our way. Maybe I could attain animal status.
15552

sportxmouse

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#28471 Oct 30, 2013
sorry about the syntax error.

You stated that your community is well on it's way... in post 15552

However, in post 28435 you state that "But now, due to your continuous expansion ... methods their ancestral lifestyle is threatened"

How is your community well on it's way?

How did our continuous expansion methods threaten your lifestyle?

Doesn't the Hopi-Navajo community have it's own reservation?

Are there casinos there for the community to profit from?

sportxmouse

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#28472 Oct 30, 2013
Also, are you blaming our culture for "dumbing" your culture down?

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Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#28473 Oct 30, 2013
Dallin avoids real conversation with a member.

http://imgur.com/a/121jP

sportxmouse

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#28474 Oct 30, 2013
I know it's difficult to read the post above with the syntax error... so I will re-post it:

Post 15532
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>I was born into the Hopi-Navajo community, And I'm not fluent in any language.
Post 15537
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, it is amazing how dumbed down we are. I left when I was seven, and was assimilated into a whole new culture, the school system didn't expect much from me to say the least. So, hopefully you won't hold it against me. But I am a product of the society I live in.
Post 15552
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>At my age I think I can be held culpable. Are you looking for reason to see me as less than human, non-christian, half-breed, uneducated, worked in an unfit industry, we're well on our way. Maybe I could attain animal status.

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#28475 Oct 30, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
Dallin avoids real conversation with a member.
http://imgur.com/a/121jP
A real conversation? Is that what you call an attack on one's positions concerning whatever, this time concerning homosexuality and same sex marriage? That's how a real conversation happens to you? Why am I not surprised. Oak's also (according to your logic) has phobias against premarital sex, adultery, shacking up, etc. Why didn't the writer accuse him of being a bigoted bully on those stances also? Society has well accepted premarital sex, adultery and shacking up as very normal human traits like homosexuality and same sex marriage. Seems to me the writer is being very bigoted in their approach of what to attack Oaks about.
And that same writer while endorsing church policies and maintaining hie membership can have the same thing said to himself, that his preaching the gospel caused one or more LDS youth to commit suicide.
So what now? Justifiable bigotry? Sure sounds like it to me.
pearl

Midvale, UT

#28476 Oct 30, 2013
sportxmouse wrote:
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I'm not exactly sure where you are coming from because last year you stated the following:
<quoted text> 15532
<quoted text> 15537
<quoted text> 15552
I'm not sure where you are coming from either. Are you just announcing your confusion or are you making a point?
pearl

Midvale, UT

#28477 Oct 30, 2013
sportxmouse wrote:
sorry about the syntax error.
You stated that your community is well on it's way... in post 15552
However, in post 28435 you state that "But now, due to your continuous expansion ... methods their ancestral lifestyle is threatened"
How is your community well on it's way?
How did our continuous expansion methods threaten your lifestyle?
Doesn't the Hopi-Navajo community have it's own reservation?
Are there casinos there for the community to profit from?
I'm pretty sure in post 15552 when I stated "we're well on our way" I was referring to fine folks here on topix
"How did our continuous expansion methods threaten your lifestyle" It didn't. As far as the rest of your questions, the answers are easy to google
pearl

Midvale, UT

#28478 Oct 30, 2013
sportxmouse wrote:
Also, are you blaming our culture for "dumbing" your culture down?
Look friend, I am of the same culture as you. I meant the dumbing down of the U.S.
pearl

Midvale, UT

#28479 Oct 30, 2013
sportxmouse wrote:
I know it's difficult to read the post above with the syntax error... so I will re-post it:
Post 15532
<quoted text>
Post 15537
<quoted text>
Post 15552
<quoted text>
It seems as though you think I've contradicted myself somewhere? Is that the point to all this?
pearl

Midvale, UT

#28480 Oct 30, 2013
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
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A "few hours"??? You certainly give a whole new meaning to MST (Manana Standard Time). Must have been a bit more than a trip to the hardware store. Dumping in the grass like a native doesn't seem so bad after all, huh?Wow.
Okay...my apologizes. Sometimes the day never goes as planned. The day was long and rough. But if it makes you feel any better, I think I got sick from it all.
pearl

Midvale, UT

#28481 Oct 30, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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People wake up and literally make a decision to forego being a human with morals and go out and do the exact opposite of who they are and commit all sorts of crimes. It's not just a religious thing really ;)P
Sure. Whatever you say.
pearl

Midvale, UT

#28482 Oct 30, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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It was nomo's idiocy thinking that mormon women today were sealed to a husband without their knowledge, understand? The woman is the one that usually wants that sealment. It's talked about and discussed before a marriage ever happens. Want a chuckle? Go look up how many 'so called' wives made sure to have themselves sealed to Joseph AFTER he was dead. Nomo was speaking of something she didn't understand, something she does quite often. She seems to be allergic to the search bar and or asking questions.
So yes..no? No answer? Why do think you always need to fill me in on what you are responding to? I'm following every ones posts. Do you think I only look at yours? Are you deflecting? Every time I ask you a question you go on to relay what Dana or Nomo said. I know what they said. I'm reading right along here.
pearl

Midvale, UT

#28483 Oct 30, 2013
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
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Plumbing? What, don't want to take a dump in the grass or dirt like a true tribesman??? Hardware stores are for the "masses" created by non-tribal people. ;-)
Naw, we've got indoor plumbing here. If you defecate on the lawn you'll go to jail. All elimination goes through the sewer lines just like yours, right down into the drinking water supply. Isn't that how they do it in civilized society?
pearl

Midvale, UT

#28484 Oct 30, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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I like hearing about this. But do you think this system could work for large numbers of people?
It worked well for the tens of millions of people that were already here before the European Christian invasion. Seriously, how well do you think any system we have now works? I really can't think of one off the top of my head. The legal system? It's a joke. The agricultural system, it's a true nightmare. The educational system, don't even get me started. What system in this nation works with efficiency?

Since: Sep 12

Reeds Spring, MO

#28485 Oct 30, 2013
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Naw, we've got indoor plumbing here. If you defecate on the lawn you'll go to jail. All elimination goes through the sewer lines just like yours, right down into the drinking water supply. Isn't that how they do it in civilized society?
Yes. Where it's chemically treated. Unlike when crapping next to your mud hut. You know what they say... "Better living through chemistry." It sure makes for better "chi" too.

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