Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32099 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23128 Apr 6, 2013
sportxmouse wrote:
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Dana,
You never answered the question:
How many LDS women feel this way?
Ask these people: http://ordainwomen.org/

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23129 Apr 6, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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lol....No. Reading comprehension is your issue because you take what is perfectly understandable and twist it to mean what it never said. That's called deceit and lying for your god that urges you to do such a thing and he pats you on your back for calling it truth.
For instance, in the following do note that in this verse, it isn't stated God had allowed all the children of Israel to partake in this principle and doctrine. As a matter of fact God spells it out that only certain individuals were allowed by God to partake in this practice, read the fricking verse as it was written, not as you deceitfully twist it to mean.
1 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines—
Next, God states in this verse... "...for all those who have this law revealed unto them must obey the same." That means not everyone as a whole would have this law revealed to them, but only select individuals.
That means this principle and doctrine wasn't a matter of salvation FOR EACH AND EVERY CHURCH MEMBER. But it was a matter of salvation to those of whom it was required of to partake of that principle and doctrine.
And you reverting to your usual pathetic lies you use to make a really stupid twisted point only prove how far you will go to foster your lies.
The doctrine of plural marriage was never given for all church members male and female. It was never stated and it was never written that all male and female church members had to be part of a polygamous marriage or risk going to hell etc. And you're reverting to pathetic twisted lies stating that is how it reads.
So remain a liar or read the information as it was written "..for all those who have this law revealed unto them must obey the same."
Playing child word games again, pathetic. Not playing this time.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23130 Apr 6, 2013
sportxmouse wrote:
You also never answered the question:
Since you don't believe in the Church Jesus Christ set up in his ministry "The Church of Jesus Christ"
and you don't believe in the Church Jesus Christ set up after the Dark Ages from hidden manuscripts "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints"
What do you believe?
Are you an atheist?
I've already said I wasn't. How many times do you have to read it?

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23131 Apr 6, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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According to what was written in that conversation, Jesus never even attempted to teach the Sadducees that there was an resurrection let alone an afterlife. There was no teaching about either in the Torah. They were like you. They believed in the literal writing of the Torah as you believe in the NT. And like them, if it wasn't in the scriptures as you also claim it, God never said it.
Jesus understood what they believed and what they didn't believe. You can remain as ignorant of this conversation Jesus had with them to your hearts delight but you will suffer for your own idiocy of thought.
Jesus's first response was that they knew not the power of God just as you don't know it because like them, you deny the power of God by containing it to what you think the power of God is and what you state the power of God isn't just as the Sadducees proclaimed it.
Nothing Jesus told them they accepted nor did they believe because they didn't believe in a resurrection or an afterlife. So anything Jesus said was a waste of his breath. Those like you and the Sadducees that contain the power of God to what one comprehends it to be and nothing more will never understand the power of God has never came with limitations.
He clearly made a statement about the resurrection, talking to you is a waste of breath. You're boring.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23132 Apr 6, 2013
Father overtime wrote:
I have heard the saviors name over 40 times in the last four hours of conference. I do believe Mormons are more than Christian. They are disciples.
Good for you.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23133 Apr 6, 2013
concerned in Egypt wrote:
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I love anti-mormon sites
I love anti-Racist sites
I love anti-devil worship sites
I love anti-muslim sites
I love anti-hidu sites.
I love anti-abortion sites.
Any site that is (Anti) against falsehoods and lies is right up my alley
I am even anti you as you think because you call something Anti-Mormon that means your position is right with having to refute the evidence they give.
You your so stupid that you think because you call something a name that your authority to do so makes something not true.
This shows you are a brainwashed dumb dumb.
If you are seeking truth about the LDS Mormon Sect.
If you want access to verifiable footnoted sources that you can verify yourself
Then these sites all document their assertions with EVIDENCE Biblical Historical and verifiable.
ALL THESE ANTI-MORMON SITES NOT ONE LDS MORMON EVEN DARES TO REFUTE AS THEY KNOW THEY CAN NOT WIN A DEBATE WITH THE TRUTH BEING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THEIR ASSERTIONS
Because the Truth Matters not vial name callers.
http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.asp...
http://www.leaderu.com/offices/michaeldavis/d...
http://www.mrm.org/
http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/
http://www.utlm.org/
http://irr.org/
http://carm.org/
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm/search/colle...
http://www.spotlightministries.org.uk/index.h...
k
It's a common Mormon tactic to avoid reality.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23134 Apr 6, 2013
NoMo wrote:
So, paKKKer steps in it again. Can you make a petition or something, to ban him permanently from the speech list?
http://fox13now.com/2013/04/06/lds-leader-war...
More proof that Packer has never known Jesus, let alone is his Apostle.

Good link, thanks.
concerned in Egypt

Aberdeen, UK

#23135 Apr 6, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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Glad you're so optimistic about the topic. Because Christianity as a whole isn't.
That which is considered canon of Jesus is in the NT. In 1700 years Christianity hasn't made an exception to anything else but what is within the Bible. That very well states Christianity isn't accepting of anything new.
So you think if God put a prophet on this earth with apostles, you think Christianity would accept them by tests against the Bible? Well God himself walked this very earth 2000 years ago and wasn't recognized by his own people. They rejected him as a Jewish prophet and rejected his followers and they killed him and killed many of his followers. If those people 2000 years ago couldn't even recognize God by testing him against their scriptures, how in the *ell do you think Christianity would recognize a prophet claiming to be of God now? They wouldn't.
Nice to know you're keeping a positive outlook about it though :)
If God has not anointed anyone in 1900 years to bring new revelation so be it God is sovereign his will be done not yours not mine.

But Jesus left so the Holy Spirit could come and be our great comforter till the second coming he has not left us alone.

I am seeing now as I write why LDS what there to be new revelation so badly they believe a lie. You are alone, your spirit is alone and empty lacking the indwelling of Holy Spirit as you are not Christian. So you fill the void with fake man made substitutions as your pride is great and you will not admit you are wrong.

Ro 1:19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
Ro 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Ro 1:21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Ro 1:22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
Ro 1:23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
Ro 1:24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
Ro 1:25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

You are not Christians LDS that is, you see Christians are indwelt with the truth the one true God the Holy Spirit we are not alone we have that which revelation previously alluded to living and dwelling with in us.
We are filled and indwelt with that which is made of Revelation God himself.

Like in Jesus's day God's true followers saw Jesus and knew who he was, they were all Jews and on pentecost these Jews were filled with the Spirit of Truth.

LDS can't see truth and know when its in front of them with out the Spirit. You don't even realize that which posted about the Jews rejecting the true Messiah is exactly what you and the LDS do today by accepting Mormon Doctrine which denies the same Jesus the Jews rejected and crucified.

Like then if God Sends a true messenger his true Christians will know. They are in dwelt with God's Holy Spirit and can't miss it.

Like then we too who are true followers of Jesus know in the Spirit Mormonism is False.

The Holy Spirit confirms his word the Bible to us and reveals to us through his word that Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were false Prophets, tools of the evil one, sellers of a false Gospel.

anonymousnetruth teller

Omaha, NE

#23136 Apr 6, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a common Mormon tactic to avoid reality.
Mormons do not avoid reality

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23137 Apr 7, 2013
anonymousnetruthteller wrote:
<quoted text>
Mormons do not avoid reality
When they refuse to read something without the approval of the church leaders it is avoiding reality.
Father overtime

United States

#23138 Apr 7, 2013
These Internet preachers so not know what a true Christian is. Go picket at conference you wolves in Sheep clothing.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23139 Apr 7, 2013
Father overtime wrote:
These Internet preachers so not know what a true Christian is. Go picket at conference you wolves in Sheep clothing.
Temper tantrums isn't going to make Mormonism Christian.

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#23140 Apr 7, 2013
concerned in Egypt wrote:
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... blah blah blah...
You play games...

I know what they are moron because I went to them in the past when you or Dana post from them to try to prove Mormonism is not true. I looked at them and decided for myself they were not for me.

I WILL NOT LOOK AT YOUR HATE FILLED RESOURCES.

Think for yourself. Provide your own assumptions, not what you have been told.

Read the Churches authorized resources compare and come out with analytic comparisons that determine the Church is not true.

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#23141 Apr 7, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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When they refuse to read something without the approval of the church leaders it is avoiding reality.
No... I read some of them... I seen what they were about. I decided on my own they were not true or right for me.

Reality is you want your own Church... you are an Apostate Mormon, an Apostate Christian. Who won't answer the simple question purposed to you...

You don't believe in the church Christ set up during his ministry
"The Church of Jesus Christ".

and

You don't believe in the church Christ set up after the Dark Ages
"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints".

Are you an atheist?

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#23142 Apr 7, 2013
concerned in Egypt wrote:
<quoted text>
I love anti-mormon sites
I love anti-Racist sites
I love anti-devil worship sites
I love anti-muslim sites
I love anti-hidu sites.
I love anti-abortion sites.
...
I noticed what you don't love is

Historical Information
Documented evidence not opinionated theories

Truth
Duty
God's Word
Obedience
Authority
Order

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#23143 Apr 7, 2013
Toma wrote:
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That's exactly what Christians do. The problem with you guys, you rely on your good works to save you.
Doesn't this quote by Bruce R Mckonkie sound familiar?
"salvation is free, but must also be bought"! Hahaha. And listen to this. He said the price for salvation is by keeping the law and ordinances of the lds church. Now, where does that leave Christ dying on the cross to pay for our sins? Mormons totally disqualified Christ work on the cross!
Well that kinda make sense, cause you Mormons believe that on the garden of gethsemane was where he bled from every pore and paid for our sins, not on the cross. Unbiblical !!!!
Hold on... Christ DID pay for our sins in gethsemane and on the cross. I chose this quote because you seem to have an affinity for Bruce R. McConkie.

"And truly he was, for while he was hanging on the cross for another three hours, from noon to 3:00 P.M., all the infinite agonies and merciless pains of Gethsemane recurred.

And, finally, when the atoning agonies had taken their toll—when the victory had been won, when the Son of God had fulfilled the will of his Father in all things—then he said,“It is finished”(John 19:30), and he voluntarily gave up the ghost."

(The Purifying Power of Gethsemane)

He suffered both on the cross and in Gethsemane.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#23144 Apr 7, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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The problem is that when you start teaching that those works are essential to your salvation, you are denying the grace of Jesus Christ:
Ephesians 2:8-9(NASB)
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Romans 11:6
But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.
That is as clear as a bell. Mormonism has put the demand on salvation so much on works that people are doing them for the dead in the temple. You are saying by doing that, that the grace of Jesus Christ isn't enough when the Bible clearly teaches it is and that he dead for all sin.
<quoted text>
No one here is against good works, they are the evidence that we have been saved. What we are against is the teaching that it is required for your salvation, or that they have anything to do with getting it. Mormons live in fear because they don't ever really know when they have earned their salvation. They don't know when their works are sufficient to met God's requirements. Because they can fall from grace at the right mistake and have to start all over again. Christ died once for all sin, you don't have to keep re-earning it. You can't earn it. When you try to earn it "grace is no longer grace".
I disagree. I'm a mormon, and I have been saved by grace. I am not living in fear. I have been saved from death and hell through the atonement and resurrection of Christ. I have been saved and I will continue to be saved by that grace as I continue to learn more about Christ and become more like him.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#23145 Apr 7, 2013
Excerpt from: "Let Us All Press On" (Text and music: Evan Stephens, 1854–1930)

"Fear not, though the enemy deride;
Courage, for the Lord is on our side.
We will heed not what the wicked may say,
But the Lord alone we will obey."

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#23146 Apr 7, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
You're being an idiot, that's what.
No. You're an idiot for attempting to claim to not being what you have been for months in these threads, a whoring rumour monger. If you're trying not to be that any more, time will prove or disprove it.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#23147 Apr 7, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Playing child word games again, pathetic. Not playing this time.
lol....liar. You stated part of Mormons salvation lay in polygamous marriages. You lied. You lied because you twisted information purposefully so it would mean what you wanted it to. That was also dishonest and purposeful deceit on your part.
Not every elder in Smith's time was told to be a polygamist.
Not every elder under Young was told to be a polygamist.
So you're a liar stating polygamy is part of every Mormons salvation. Your a pathetic liar.
The law of polygamy was revealed to select individual elders under Smith and Young, but not all elders. And that is how this verse explains what you have lied about.
"...for all those who have this law revealed unto them must obey the same."
Factual Mormon history attests that not all Mormon elders had the law of polygamy revealed to them to obey it.
So you're a liar to state differently which you have.
Stop being a liar and state what was actually said, kind of a simple concept, really.

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