Are vitamins from USANA worth price?

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USANA scam

El Paso, TX

#28 Oct 22, 2008
There is an ex con in California, who is making mega bucks saying USANA is a scam. He sent their vitamins to a lab to prove they were not equivelant to what was on the label. And the doses happen to be pretty much what the label said. So do some more research. There are 2 versions of the PDR, the one the doctors use, and a supplemental guide. The supplemental guide is all pay to put in products, even weider Products are there.

Poor unknowning souls, all of life and business is a pyramid. Read up. Look at Wal-mart. Most people see a business, but the only ones making real money are the Waltons, and the the upper management.

In any business there will be one person at the top making most of the money.

Yeah, USANA gives you an opportunity to earn money, and like the above poster stated, some will make money and quite frankly most people suck at it.

BEWARE SINCE THE PDR IS CRAP LIKE THE ABOVE PERSON STATED, WARNING DO NOT TAKE PENICILLIN, Z-PACKS, VIAGRA, DEMEROL, ETC.... CAUSE ACCORDING TO THE ABOVE POSTER IT IS WORTH CRAP.

How many of you have used penicillin for strep throat, that is listed in the PDR...

Case close.

As for the marketing system, most people fail. Maybe the above poster failed at USANA.

In any business including USANA, if a person fails at it they will bash it, if they do good at it they will promote it.

As for using their products, at least they give you a thiry day money back guarantee. Cant get that at Wally world or GNC.
Who cares

El Paso, TX

#29 Oct 22, 2008
Since the FDA does not have regulate the supplement industry, and the food we produce does not give enough nutrients.

JUst enjoy life, eat McDonalds everyday, die of a heart attack if you are lucky. Survive if you are unlucky, pat the Doctors over $100,00 for a bypass. and pay hundreds of dollars for medications the rest of your life.

Pay a little to stay healthy, along with a good diet and exercise. or say screw it, and pay dearly with money and pain in the long run.

Remember you are in control of your health, no one on here is going to do it for you. You have to choose whatever precautions you think are necessary.
best vitamin

El Paso, TX

#30 Oct 22, 2008
Beer..........
cheaper then all vitamins..
makes you feel good.....
makes you have fun.....
makes you the life of the party.....

wine.....
lowers cholesterol and blood pressure.....
less heart disease in people who drink it.....

vegetarian....
no steroids used in their diets cause they do not eat meat

The only thing that is crap is the concept of money...banks keep people as slaves by having them in debt....most people live paycheck to paycheck...

Only two things guaranteed in life:
you die
you pay taxes
Dave

Hamilton, Canada

#31 Oct 22, 2008
Actually "USANA scam" I posted hastily and this has led to some confusion. What I meant to say is that I'm not saying that the PDR is crap BUT they do no testing. I only brought up the possibility of people seeing it as crap because of the poster above me. In short I don't think the PDR is crap but it also doesn't prove USANA has a great product. What is crap is the comparative guide.

I'd recommend you take the time to do some more research on the matter because there are actually several versions of the PDR not simply two. Either way the fact remains that the PDR doesn't conduct tests on the products. USANAs inclusion in the PDR over the PDR for Nonprescription Drugs, Dietary Supplements and Herbs is at USANAs request not because they meet higher levels of quality than any other brands.

This constantly repeated claim that all business' are pyramids is absolute malarkey. The Waltons aren't performing the same function as everyone down below them. The Waltons don't profit by having people sign up to do the same job they're doing. The business of USANA is selling people on selling the business of USANA. It's an endless chain. The people who actually just buy the products are few and far between.

I have never been in USANA or any other MLM for that matter. I'm just tired of people trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear when it comes to this company. Now do you have any 3rd party sources which can prove anything outstanding about USANA or are you just blowing smoke?
best vitamin

El Paso, TX

#32 Oct 23, 2008
I am a personal trainer and have tested and used many supplemnts over the years. And out of all the stuff I have used and tried USANA has been the best, along with some products from Dr. Serrano, protein supplements.
Whenever I tested or used any supplement, I never changed anything I did with training or nutrition. If I personally saw positive results, I know that product worked for me. If no progress was made the product was trashed.
I see so many people train in the gym with little or no results. and then I see people who use the so called gimmick products, especially fat burners. Usually after a month they tell me how well the product helped them to lose weight. But when I question them about their product, I always get the same answers, that they cut back on the junk food, do not eat after 6 in the evening, they started doing cardio and lifting heavier weights. Of course they lost weight.

Vitamins are great, but the supplement industry is a fruad. No FDA regulation at all. Ephedra was taken off the market due to abuse and misuse. Do a little research, take a bottle of steroids Anavar tablets and get an upset stomach, or take a bottle of asprin and die.

It is poor knowledge that is harming people.

You will hear good things and bad things about USANA. But I do know for sure that they digest completely in my intestinal track. I tried GNC Mega Man, and crapped out half of the vitamins whole.

Point is not many people have money to spare to send their products to a lab, and if a company pays for it, it may be a biased report.

The USANA business is hard. All MLM is hard. You will never make money in an MLM when all you do is by products, and talk to 2 people per month. Many markerters force people into the business that are not serious, and it makes the company look really bad, and then people are upset when they make no money, while they are not working. MLM is still a job, but you are in charge.

There are a few good MLM companies out there, but few people will put in at least on full 8 hour day per week to earn some extra income. If you do not go to your job, the company is not going to pay you.

Every nutritional product is different. Some good, some bad. Do not let anyone tell you all vitamins are created equal. If you believe that then, you have to believe a Lamborghini is equal to a Ford Focus is equal to a Lexus.

And that is not true.
wal mart

El Paso, TX

#33 Oct 23, 2008
Wal-Mart is a different pyramid scheme. They pay people slave wages, removed most of their full time jobs, only pay part timers now. No real benefits. Their prices are more expensive then Target now, and the customer service is terrible. go to Wal Mart, and I guarantee you will wait in a long line, go to Target if you are in a long line, they will open up more cash registers.

I am not endorsing USANA or any other MLM here. Just making the fact, in any business as posted above, someone is always going to get rich off the sweat of others. Do not blame MLM for offering someone a better way out. It may be rough and many will fail, but it is really a miracle to see someone work they way up in a company like Wal-Mart. Never heard of someone starting as part time employee, and becoming a CEO at Wal mart or make a CEO salary working there. But there have been more people in MLM making CEO salaries then working a full time job at places like Wal Mart.

Fact of the matter no one is going to test someones product for free, it is too expensive.

As for USANA having a great product, that depends if it worked for you or not. Good for some and not good for others.

Look at the GMP as a starting point, not a finishing point. USANA supposedly uses GMP for pharmaceutical grad, as opposed to other companies using GMP for food standard which is quite a bit lower standard.

I have not been to their manufacturing facility so I can neither confirm or deny that claim.
calgirl

Martinez, CA

#34 Oct 23, 2008
[doctors dont know much about nutrition--they take ONE class in med school--depend on doctors to tell you how to love--and you wouldn't live very long!!!
Dave

Canada

#35 Oct 23, 2008
Just responding to a few more points. Minkows (or the ex con in California as you refer to him) investigation into what USANAs products contained did not reveal that they were pretty much equivalent to the label. He referenced numerous points where the labs test results indicated a discrepancy between what USANA claims and what was in the product. This is why USANA responded to Minkows claims with their explanation as to why the lab found these differences. In their court case against Minkow they failed to successfully defend their product claims and had one of their charges thrown out as a result.

With USANAs rationale for why they manufacture to GMP for pharmaceuticals Centrum and even GNC Mega Men would be manufactured to GMP for pharmaceuticals as well. How can that make USANAs product so much farther ahead than the rest if store brands are at the same level?

About digestion GNC Mega Men is terrible and even failed at every level in the study done by the University of Alberta. USANA passed but so did Centrum and numerous other off the shelf brands, so why does USANA cost so much more? The study even cited USANAs label as having pseudo-scientific language which was intended to convince the reader that the product was of higher value despite the claim being utter nonsense.

Your comment about Walmart completely misses the point. The problem with pyramid schemes is that they constantly need to gain new members to keep everything running. Eventually the population of those interested dries up leaving the most at the bottom losing money.

All vitamins might not be created equal but where is the 3rd party references which demonstrate USANA has a great product? I'm not saying USANA has a bad product I'm just saying they haven't demonstrated they have a great one worth the price and until they do their hefty price tag seems more about propping up the opportunity than paying for the product.
LeeAnne

Manteca, CA

#36 Nov 12, 2008
silly girl wrote:
Personally, I have no interest in buying from companies that hire representatives who can't put together proper sentences. Most of the informational" posts on this topic sound like they've been translated from another language - or written by people who speak English as a second language. How are you supposed to respect anything said by someone who thinks that "their" and "there" are the same word?
The person that got "their" wrong does not advocate Usana. He/she sells vitamins from a different company>
Tim

San Antonio, TX

#37 Nov 13, 2008
I have family members who have experienced amazing results from the products. You can either spend a little on health now.. or a lot later. visit www.youtube.com , and search,'usana apple test'. as for the compensation plan.. you have to understand how it works to see that its more about team work and cynergy than the typical mlm ways of sponsoring. and people say 'recruiting' like its a bad thing.. everyone recruits, military, nfl, nba, mlb, nhl, colleges, jobs recruit students out of school via "head hunters".. then the headhunter gets commission off the person they found for the job. hmmm.
Mario

Vancouver, Canada

#38 Nov 16, 2008
Choo-Choo wrote:
Sounds like a scam to me. Why not ask your medical practitioner who has been to medical school, attends board conferences and is most likely up to date on current trends than people hawking gimmicks on these board?
Yaah! Right! Ask your doctor who have all the credentials you refere to including pharmaceuticals but less nutrition. Next time ask your doctor how many hours on nutrition courses he/she had in the school and if you want an alternative therapie to pharmaceuticals what would be his/her recommendation! I hope you stay healthy with only your doctor advises.
Mario S.
Registered Holistic Nutritionist
Registered Sport Nutrition Advisor
Registered Orthomoleculat Health Practitioner
Mario

Vancouver, Canada

#39 Nov 16, 2008
Yaah! Right! Ask your doctor who have all the credentials you refere to including pharmaceuticals but less nutrition. Next time ask your doctor how many hours on nutrition courses he/she had in the school and if you want an alternative therapie to pharmaceuticals what would be his/her recommendation! I hope you stay healthy with only your doctor advises.
Mario S.
Registered Holistic Nutritionist
Registered Sport Nutrition Advisor
Registered Orthomoleculat Health Practitioner
Silly Dave

Sydney, Australia

#40 Jan 10, 2009
How comes Dave using result from the Minkows's so call research? Don't you know this guy was try to attack Usana but finally fail?
So this guy has his purpose to testing USANA products. But if you still have this guy's report, you can find out, even using the Minkow's poor testing rule, Usana's product still the toppest products in his report.

By the way, Minkow has removed his report from internet. You should not find out from his web site. So you should not use his report to support your points.
Scott

Appleton, WI

#41 Jan 16, 2009
Wow...some major Usana/MLM bashing going on here. First of all, not all network marketing companies are "scams". Are there some out there? You bet. But let's not rush in and say that EVERY network marketing company is a scam. Robert Kiyosaki (Rich Dad, Poor Dad), Donald Trump, and Warren Buffet all recommend network marketing. Ever hear of them? In fact, Buffet actually owns a MLM.

Let me ask you this. Bernard Madoff ran an investment company which was exposed as a ponzi scheme. Does that mean EVERY investment company should be lumped in the same category?

Corporations are the real pyramid schemes. You have a CEO at the top. Under the CEO you have a CFO, CIO, etc. Under them are VPs followed by mgrs and waaaaay at the bottom are the workers. The main argument against MLMs is that the people at the top make all the money. Ummm...you mean like a corporation? Show me one manager making more than a VP or the CEO. Or an employee making more that the CFO. It just doesn't happen. Whereas in network marketing it's entirely possible for someone to make more than the person above them.

Let's discuss supplement quality and 3rd party testing. Go out to consumerlabs.com and take a look. They are an independent company and evaluate supplements. I can't tell you how many supplements I've seen out there which do not contain what's listed on the label, or contain dangerous substances. They have tested certain Usana products and have passed their tests. To be fair, several other products have also passed their tests. But there's your 3rd party documentation.

Now let's get into quality and price. Is a Corvette more expensive than a Saturn? Why? They're both cars, right? Is a T-Bone more expensive than hamburger? Why? They both come from a cow, right? You pay more for quality. Now I already know what the next argument will be...who's saying Usana is better quality than, say, a Centrum? It comes down to 2 main things: Does the product work for you (do you see results) and does it break down in the body. Many nurses have a slang term for over-the-counter supplements like Centrum and One-A-Day. Bedpan bullets. Why? Because they come out looking just like they did going in. They don't do anything. If you're paying 1-cent for that type of product, it's too much.

Is Usana the world's greatest product? I don't know. What I do know is that it works for me. I used to be allergic to cats. Not anymore. My daughter used to have dairy allergies. Not anymore. And from reading the posts, it seems to work for other people as well. And seeing how the health of my family (and my own health for that matter) is above all else, I can't put a price tag on it. How much is YOUR health worth?
Dave

Hamilton, Canada

#42 Jan 22, 2009
How did Minkow fail? Did he fail because USANA dropped their defamation suit against him? Did he fail because the Judge in the case threw out 4 of USANAs 5 charges because they violated California's Anti-SLAPP laws which protect people from being sued for fair criticism? How about because the Judge ruled that USANA couldn't prove they had a chance of winning on those charges and repeatedly failed to show that their products were superior? Or did he fail because USANA didn't proceed with their final charge against him, but instead opted for a secret deal?

I don't know how things work in Australia but I wouldn't consider that failure. Looks like Minkow got a nice payout from USANA.

Do you want to know who really failed here? The distributors. Because while you guys are over paying for run of the mill vitamins the Execs of this company are bleeding it dry by issuing themselves stock that they turn around and sell back to the company. Okay the shareholders are also failing.

And no USANA's products were not the 'toppest products in his report.'
Silly Dave wrote:
How comes Dave using result from the Minkows's so call research? Don't you know this guy was try to attack Usana but finally fail?
So this guy has his purpose to testing USANA products. But if you still have this guy's report, you can find out, even using the Minkow's poor testing rule, Usana's product still the toppest products in his report.
By the way, Minkow has removed his report from internet. You should not find out from his web site. So you should not use his report to support your points.
Dave

Hamilton, Canada

#43 Jan 22, 2009
Please direct us to any evidence of Donald Trump or Warren Buffet recommending network marketing that's not a paid advertisement.

Drop the 'corporations are pyramid schemes' argument. Corporations don't make money by hiring new people to do the same job as everyone else. With USANA you sign new people up so they can make money signing new people up. There are few actual customers for their products.

Most of the testing done by Consumer Labs which include USANA show that nearly all of the products tested managed to pass. Your comment about Centrum is in direct contradiction to a study done at the University of Alberta which showed that Centrum dissolved appropriately. It is the same study USANA Distributors reference to prove that USANA dissolves and it also in that study that USANA was shown to have misleading comments on their label.

Explain why USANA costs so much more. Actually provide something legitimate which offers an explanation.
Scott wrote:
Wow...some major Usana/MLM bashing going on here. First of all, not all network marketing companies are "scams". Are there some out there? You bet. But let's not rush in and say that EVERY network marketing company is a scam. Robert Kiyosaki (Rich Dad, Poor Dad), Donald Trump, and Warren Buffet all recommend network marketing. Ever hear of them? In fact, Buffet actually owns a MLM.
Let me ask you this. Bernard Madoff ran an investment company which was exposed as a ponzi scheme. Does that mean EVERY investment company should be lumped in the same category?
Corporations are the real pyramid schemes. You have a CEO at the top. Under the CEO you have a CFO, CIO, etc. Under them are VPs followed by mgrs and waaaaay at the bottom are the workers. The main argument against MLMs is that the people at the top make all the money. Ummm...you mean like a corporation? Show me one manager making more than a VP or the CEO. Or an employee making more that the CFO. It just doesn't happen. Whereas in network marketing it's entirely possible for someone to make more than the person above them.
Let's discuss supplement quality and 3rd party testing. Go out to consumerlabs.com and take a look. They are an independent company and evaluate supplements. I can't tell you how many supplements I've seen out there which do not contain what's listed on the label, or contain dangerous substances. They have tested certain Usana products and have passed their tests. To be fair, several other products have also passed their tests. But there's your 3rd party documentation.
Now let's get into quality and price. Is a Corvette more expensive than a Saturn? Why? They're both cars, right? Is a T-Bone more expensive than hamburger? Why? They both come from a cow, right? You pay more for quality. Now I already know what the next argument will be...who's saying Usana is better quality than, say, a Centrum? It comes down to 2 main things: Does the product work for you (do you see results) and does it break down in the body. Many nurses have a slang term for over-the-counter supplements like Centrum and One-A-Day. Bedpan bullets. Why? Because they come out looking just like they did going in. They don't do anything. If you're paying 1-cent for that type of product, it's too much.
Is Usana the world's greatest product? I don't know. What I do know is that it works for me. I used to be allergic to cats. Not anymore. My daughter used to have dairy allergies. Not anymore. And from reading the posts, it seems to work for other people as well. And seeing how the health of my family (and my own health for that matter) is above all else, I can't put a price tag on it. How much is YOUR health worth?
Scott

Appleton, WI

#45 Jan 25, 2009
One more thing I thought of regarding quality. Did you know there are 2 versions of vitamin E? There's dl-alpha-tocopheryl and d-alpha-tocopheryl. The dl-alpha version is a synthetic version of vitamin E, whereas the d-alpha version is natural. The problem is, the dl-alpha (synthetic) does not absorb into the body. Most over-the-counter supplements contain the dl-alpha type of vitamin E because it's cheap to make. So here's a challenge to anyone out there. Go to your cabinet and check to see what kind of vitamin E you're paying for. BTW, in case you haven't guessed it yet, Usana uses the d-alpha version of vitamin E. More expensive, yes. But it absorbs.

Usana also contains other ingredients which are not contained in over-the-counter supplements. Items such as olive oil extract (shown in studies to reduce the risk of heart disease), bioflavonoids (pomegranate extract, cinnamon extract, bilberry extract, etc), COQ10 and lycopene among others. More ingredients + higher levels of other ingredients + use of higher quality ingredients = a more expensive product.
Dave wrote:
Please direct us to any evidence of Donald Trump or Warren Buffet recommending network marketing that's not a paid advertisement.
Drop the 'corporations are pyramid schemes' argument. Corporations don't make money by hiring new people to do the same job as everyone else. With USANA you sign new people up so they can make money signing new people up. There are few actual customers for their products.
Most of the testing done by Consumer Labs which include USANA show that nearly all of the products tested managed to pass. Your comment about Centrum is in direct contradiction to a study done at the University of Alberta which showed that Centrum dissolved appropriately. It is the same study USANA Distributors reference to prove that USANA dissolves and it also in that study that USANA was shown to have misleading comments on their label.
Explain why USANA costs so much more. Actually provide something legitimate which offers an explanation.
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George

Seattle, WA

#46 Jan 27, 2009
Choo-Choo wrote:
Sounds like a scam to me. Why not ask your medical practitioner who has been to medical school, attends board conferences and is most likely up to date on current trends than people hawking gimmicks on these board?
There are about 4,00 doctors worlwide with usana that offer usana to their patients. That is how i heard of usana my first time, from then i did my research and found that by far usana is the best multivitamin out there.
Dave

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#47 Feb 9, 2009
I did some reading on the two different types of vitamin E and it says that the natural version MAY get absorbed better by the body and your comment that the synthetic stuff doesn't get absorbed conflicts with what I've seen. I'll accept that the natural stuff might get absorbed better but I highly doubt that the synthetic stuff doesn't absorb. The synthetic stuff has a longer shelf life which would actually be a bonus for anyone who gets there USANA products off of eBay. There's a large eBay market where you can get USANA for half price.

If there products were better and their costs were reasonable they would have had better luck suing Minkow. USANA failed to demonstrate to the Judge that they had a product which was better than cheaper brands. When I consider all the half truths this company and its distributors throw around to sell their products I'm not buying that they're worth the money. Give me an actual formal study which says USANA is on top of their game and then maybe you'll make a believer out of me.

Still waiting on more info about Trump and Buffet too.
Scott wrote:
One more thing I thought of regarding quality. Did you know there are 2 versions of vitamin E? There's dl-alpha-tocopheryl and d-alpha-tocopheryl. The dl-alpha version is a synthetic version of vitamin E, whereas the d-alpha version is natural. The problem is, the dl-alpha (synthetic) does not absorb into the body. Most over-the-counter supplements contain the dl-alpha type of vitamin E because it's cheap to make. So here's a challenge to anyone out there. Go to your cabinet and check to see what kind of vitamin E you're paying for. BTW, in case you haven't guessed it yet, Usana uses the d-alpha version of vitamin E. More expensive, yes. But it absorbs.
Usana also contains other ingredients which are not contained in over-the-counter supplements. Items such as olive oil extract (shown in studies to reduce the risk of heart disease), bioflavonoids (pomegranate extract, cinnamon extract, bilberry extract, etc), COQ10 and lycopene among others. More ingredients + higher levels of other ingredients + use of higher quality ingredients = a more expensive product.
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Sarcastic Sid

Stow, OH

#48 Feb 9, 2009
MLM is not what you think it is. It is worse.

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