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Legislature strikes at overturning Strickland's education plan

There are 30 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Mar 10, 2011, titled Legislature strikes at overturning Strickland's education plan. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

Legislation giving Ohio schools two additional snow days and a separate bill that would remove a requirement to offer all-day kindergarten won key rounds in the legislature yesterday, as Republicans chipped away at education changes pushed by former Gov.

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unfair

Reynoldsburg, OH

#1 Mar 10, 2011
Dispatch deleted this post, so here it is again:

The reduction to three days "added undue pressure on school districts during this harsh winter, and the message has been heard loud and clear: Districts want more flexibility," said Rep. Casey Kozlowski, R-Pierpont, the bill sponsor.

They hear THIS loud and clear, but not the hundreds of thousands across Ohio and those nationwide that oppose stripping away collective bargaining rights?! Sounds like a severe case of "selective hearing" to me!!!

Now go ahead, Dispatch, delete it again. Way to SELECTIVELY control the views on these posting boards....
TurtleNamedMack

Centerburg, OH

#2 Mar 10, 2011
Why not take the funding of high school sport our of the budget which would save 300 - 500 million dollars. That could easily cover the cost of full day kindergarten and might go a long way to a pr -k program.
Steven Streets

Grove City, OH

#4 Mar 10, 2011
Guess how many letters in the alphabet a kid has to learn in first grade in Japan?
You just want to sell Japanese stocks for a future American economy?
the Chinese will be buying it first. And hiring our soldiers to defend it.

Who gets the money in Ohios Republican Government? the kids? or
the Wall Street banks and their body politic?
Clue; What states got great credit?(Never miss a bond payment )

Since: Jun 09

Groveport, OH

#5 Mar 10, 2011
Good, it was a stupid plan anyway.

Since: Jan 11

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#6 Mar 10, 2011
Senator Kearney falls into the trap of making simple comparisons between foreign and U.S. students.

This issue is far more complex than how many hours or days of instruction they have.

Eliminating proficiency testing more save millions of dollars too. It's a joke.
Took my meds today

Westerville, OH

#7 Mar 10, 2011
TurtleNamedMack wrote:
Why not take the funding of high school sport our of the budget which would save 300 - 500 million dollars. That could easily cover the cost of full day kindergarten and might go a long way to a pr -k program.
Because that might strip some interest from those beloved Buckeyes and there might be less drunks downtown littering and spitting on out-of-town guests just for wearing their team colors. Less football-bad. Less education-oh well. Football good. hutt hutt hutt
AF Vet

Canton, OH

#8 Mar 10, 2011
It's no wonder why only one out of four Ohioans have a Bachelors degree. Times have changed and most other industrialized nations have or will be passing us up. Let's stick with antiquated Agrarian Calendar and see where that gets us.

Since: Jan 11

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#9 Mar 10, 2011
AF Vet wrote:
It's no wonder why only one out of four Ohioans have a Bachelors degree. Times have changed and most other industrialized nations have or will be passing us up. Let's stick with antiquated Agrarian Calendar and see where that gets us.
Ah, the Bachelor's Degree, now blessed and ordained as an absolute necessity for everyone. How's that $50k student loan hanging for you while you sit in that call center cubicle?

Go to your local restaurant and you'll run in to lots of BA's, MA's and even an occasional law degree waiting tables because there's no jobs out there that justify what they have put in to their education.

Tons of useless degrees running around. Even the legal profession is being hollowed out by computer software that can do the work it used to take squadrons of attorneys days and weeks to accomplish.

We've been suckered by the educational establishment into a degree mania.
Black lion

Columbus, OH

#10 Mar 10, 2011
unfair wrote:
Dispatch deleted this post, so here it is again:
The reduction to three days "added undue pressure on school districts during this harsh winter, and the message has been heard loud and clear: Districts want more flexibility," said Rep. Casey Kozlowski, R-Pierpont, the bill sponsor.
They hear THIS loud and clear, but not the hundreds of thousands across Ohio and those nationwide that oppose stripping away collective bargaining rights?! Sounds like a severe case of "selective hearing" to me!!!
Now go ahead, Dispatch, delete it again. Way to SELECTIVELY control the views on these posting boards....
Do you really think the dispatch gives a rats butt what you have to say?
Youratroll

Cortland, OH

#11 Mar 10, 2011
TurtleNamedMack wrote:
Why not take the funding of high school sport our of the budget which would save 300 - 500 million dollars. That could easily cover the cost of full day kindergarten and might go a long way to a pr -k program.
If you don't know what you are talking about then please don't comment. In a vast majority of school districts in Ohio the athletic budget is in a separate fund that is funded by the revenue of gate sales and booster club donations. Please go back into your closed minded hole and be quiet.

Thank You
CincyTom

Batavia, OH

#12 Mar 10, 2011
Biggie BC wrote:
Senator Kearney falls into the trap of making simple comparisons between foreign and U.S. students.
This issue is far more complex than how many hours or days of instruction they have.
Eliminating proficiency testing more save millions of dollars too. It's a joke.
Former President Bush had more to do with testing than Eric Kearney. His comparison is fair though you're right that there is more to it than just the hours in school. Other countries place much more emphasis on education than us. We lead our youth by example and we're not doing so well by attacking teachers and educational programs.
Bobcat007

Uhrichsville, OH

#13 Mar 10, 2011
Youratroll wrote:
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If you don't know what you are talking about then please don't comment. In a vast majority of school districts in Ohio the athletic budget is in a separate fund that is funded by the revenue of gate sales and booster club donations. Please go back into your closed minded hole and be quiet.
Thank You
Actually, while it is a separate fund that recieves gate sales and donations, just like colleges it usually does not provide 100% funding for all sports over the course of a year. Districts, like colleges, must pull money from the general fund to make up the difference.
Baffled Buckeye

Pemberville, OH

#14 Mar 10, 2011
I wonder if the bill will also eliminate textbook funds for charter schools? Maybe what we should do is just have everyone home school their children and that would save an extremely high amount of money from the state budget and there wouldn't be any effect on teachers with S.B.5. Thaty way everyopne would be happy. Lower taxes for school...No cost of books and materials...No need for the high priced teachers....and parents would have to take responsibility for their children! Sounds like a plan.
Privatize

Columbus, OH

#15 Mar 10, 2011
Let's just lower the standards to become a teacher, hire all of the Teach Across America kids who get their two weeks of training, and privatize all education in the state. That'll save all of us. Of course, don't expect your taxes to be any lower. You should just expect the costs for other services to go up; welfare, gas, food, etc.
Think Harder

Columbus, OH

#16 Mar 10, 2011
Baffled Buckeye wrote:
I wonder if the bill will also eliminate textbook funds for charter schools? Maybe what we should do is just have everyone home school their children and that would save an extremely high amount of money from the state budget and there wouldn't be any effect on teachers with S.B.5. Thaty way everyopne would be happy. Lower taxes for school...No cost of books and materials...No need for the high priced teachers....and parents would have to take responsibility for their children! Sounds like a plan.
Sounds like a good idea. We already homeschool our kids.
Think Harder

Columbus, OH

#17 Mar 10, 2011
*home school* I should really be proof reading my posts better.
frip

Reynoldsburg, OH

#18 Mar 10, 2011
Privatize wrote:
Let's just lower the standards to become a teacher, hire all of the Teach Across America kids who get their two weeks of training, and privatize all education in the state. That'll save all of us. Of course, don't expect your taxes to be any lower. You should just expect the costs for other services to go up; welfare, gas, food, etc.
Good point about Teach for America. Most get out in 1-3 years. They receive fast-food training. But hey, this is Ohio, we don't think you need these degrees. We're anti-elitist.
Hope your dentist gets more than two weeks of training.
Youratroll

Cortland, OH

#19 Mar 10, 2011
Bobcat007 wrote:
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Actually, while it is a separate fund that recieves gate sales and donations, just like colleges it usually does not provide 100% funding for all sports over the course of a year. Districts, like colleges, must pull money from the general fund to make up the difference.
Yes, some districts do have to borrow money from the general fund but it might be 5 maybe 10% of the total athletic budget. With more districts going pay to play that % is probably dwindling. My whole point is to not throw a ridiculous number out there because dumb people don't research things for themselves and believe everything that they read.
unfair

Westerville, OH

#20 Mar 10, 2011
Black lion wrote:
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Do you really think the dispatch gives a rats butt what you have to say?
Yes I do...I REALLY do.
Do you think I give a "rats butt" what YOU have to say? Not really....
whatever

Columbus, OH

#21 Mar 10, 2011
Youratroll wrote:
<quoted text>
If you don't know what you are talking about then please don't comment. In a vast majority of school districts in Ohio the athletic budget is in a separate fund that is funded by the revenue of gate sales and booster club donations. Please go back into your closed minded hole and be quiet.
Thank You
You are wrong. If that was the case there would not be pay to play when the schools run out of operating money. The coaches have supplemental contracts paid out of operating funds.

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