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Tewksbury, MA

#1 Aug 9, 2007
Residents of the South Street area in Tewksbury are sick of the odors from Krochmal Farms and BMC Corp. They are a public nuisance. Residents can't air out our houses on nice days without the real possibility of having our homes inundated with these odors. They can't have a cookout, or play in our back yards with their children without the same possibility of being immersed in the stench caused by pig feces, boiled garbage and yard waste from many other towns. It is grossly unfair that this neighborhood is used as, and smells like, a dumpster.
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Boston Bob

Hudson, NH

#2 Aug 10, 2007
Well, the folks in Hudson who moved in next to the Speedway were surprised that there was a lot of speedway noise, the folks in Hollis who built their McMansions next to the shooting range were surprised that there was a lot of shooting noise, and the folks who moved into houses next to a pig farm are surprised that there is a odor of pigs.
Hmmm.
Now, I know that a real estate agent will lie to sell property, but c'mon ! You had to have some idea !
Boston Bob

Hudson, NH

#3 Aug 10, 2007
UNLESS the pig farm is new. How long has the pig farm been there?
Lisa D

Chelsea, MA

#4 Aug 12, 2007
While I agree that the smell is pretty bad, I dont know if we have a right to complain. The pig farm was here first, and we all knew it was here when we moved in. I have since moved, but it was because my husband was relocated, not because of the smell. We were told about the farm, and I am sure that everyone else was also.
Is the smell much worse than it used to be? Maybe if it is, there is a point if contention. Otherwise, I am not so sure.
Tewksbury

Acton, MA

#5 Aug 12, 2007
There is another farm nearby with horses. We thought it was that we were told about, and the real estate agent said nothing when we said we didn't mind some horse smells occasionally. Also we moved here in the winter when smells are rare.

Honestly, take a drive around here at night and smell how bad it is. The question of who knew what when is irrelevant if the farm is a health threat.

http://tewksburyodor.org
Boston Bob wrote:
Well, the folks in Hudson who moved in next to the Speedway were surprised that there was a lot of speedway noise, the folks in Hollis who built their McMansions next to the shooting range were surprised that there was a lot of shooting noise, and the folks who moved into houses next to a pig farm are surprised that there is a odor of pigs.
Hmmm.
Now, I know that a real estate agent will lie to sell property, but c'mon ! You had to have some idea !
Tewksbury

Acton, MA

#6 Aug 12, 2007
1) Lead paint was here first.
2) Cigarettes were here first.
3) Companies that dumped PCBs were here first.

I don't understand your point. It's not just a smell. It's a triple whammy stench that comes along with health threats. All of this info is covered and backed up on http://tewksburyodor.org

Funny how people take the side of an antiquated stink farm and ignore how hundreds of people suffer. It's no longer the 1800's

Lisa D wrote:
While I agree that the smell is pretty bad, I dont know if we have a right to complain. The pig farm was here first, and we all knew it was here when we moved in. I have since moved, but it was because my husband was relocated, not because of the smell. We were told about the farm, and I am sure that everyone else was also.
Is the smell much worse than it used to be? Maybe if it is, there is a point if contention. Otherwise, I am not so sure.
Tewksbury

Acton, MA

#7 Aug 12, 2007
100 years.

But it's irrelevant. There are modern, inexpensive methods for abating odors. Also, the health threats were only discovered recently.
Boston Bob wrote:
UNLESS the pig farm is new. How long has the pig farm been there?
Boston Bob

Hudson, NH

#8 Aug 12, 2007
Tewksbury wrote:
100 years.
But it's irrelevant. There are modern, inexpensive methods for abating odors. Also, the health threats were only discovered recently.
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If there is something they can do to minimize the odor, then it should be looked into. But if my family had a business for 100 years, and some new people moved in next door and bitched about it, there might be more than paperwork flying around. The farm was there, the smell was there. Now, maybe the real estate agents who sold you the homes lied, which wouldn't surprise me at all. But the fact remains, they have precedent. As far as your example of cigarettes being there first, cmon, you know that is hardly an accurate example.
You bought a house next to a pig farm, you made a miscalculation, and now you want someone else to pay for your mistake. People in Hudson did this to the speedway, and the spoiled yuppies are doing it in Hollis to the shooting range. These businesses exist, and have a right to exist. If you dont like them, then dont move in next to them. Remember the folks who bought condos in Kissamee Florida and complained about the Disney traffic? The judge told them to go home and shut up.
Face it, you screwed up.
Boston Bob

Hudson, NH

#9 Aug 14, 2007
Tewksbury wrote:
There is another farm nearby with horses. We thought it was that we were told about, and the real estate agent said nothing when we said we didn't mind some horse smells occasionally. Also we moved here in the winter when smells are rare.
Honestly, take a drive around here at night and smell how bad it is. The question of who knew what when is irrelevant if the farm is a health threat.
http://tewksburyodor.org
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Ok so ,the real estate agent(s) lied. Thats no surprise. But, you didnt drive around the neighborhood? You didnt check out the surrounding area? Did you do any research before you bought this property? Its not the farmers fault that the real estate agent lied, or that you didnt take the time to see where you were sitting before you sat down. Get together with your neighbors and make a list of all the real estate people you guys dealt with, and take them to court, and get a settlement. I bet that there will even be some agents who have since moved on to other jobs who will be glad to let you know that they were told to lie in order to sell these houses.
But, I would be very careful of starting any self righteous crusade that could end in the elimination of some ones lively hood. You might get back more than you bargained for.
And if you do get a settlement and move, dont move next to a shooting range, a speedway, an amusement park, a mall or anything else like that. Pay attention !!!
Concerned Former Resident

Hopkinton, MA

#10 Aug 14, 2007
I grew up on South Street in Tewksbury and my parents still live there (well over 30 years now) and just to inform everyone on this post there have been noxious, horrible odors in this neighborhood for many, many years. People have been complaining for a very long time about the odors and nothing ever seems to get done, either by the owner of the farm/composting site or the Town of Tewksbury. The odor is much worse in the summer time. I have always thought the odor was due to more than just the pig farm. Also, if I paid $300K-$400K for a home in this neighborhood you bet I would be upset with the odor and not being informed about it! It is more than just a "pig farm" smell. I don't think anyone has any idea how truly horrible it smells sometimes...it really is enough to make you sick to your stomach. It is a shame, too, as it is a wonderful neighborhood.
Dan

East Weymouth, MA

#11 Aug 15, 2007
Maybe the Yuppies can ask the farmer for discounted pork? With food prices sky-rocketing there can be advantages to living next to a farm :-) LOL - And they will need to spend their grocery money to pay off mortgages during "The Slow Train Wreck" (housing crisis)(energy crisis)(stock market crash)(unemployment)(weak dollar)(war)
Tewksbury

Acton, MA

#12 Aug 16, 2007
I'm a half mile from the pig farm, not "next door". People are complaining from OVER a mile away. My 80 year old neighbor says it's worse than ever all over town. I wasn't informed about the smell or the health affects by anyone. I made no miscalculation, nor am I a "spoiled yuppie" but thanks for the implied insults.

My point is there IS a way for them to reduce smells and pollution. If the farm's emmissions are illegal and hurt people they have to fix the problem. This isn't the 1800s.

I disagree with you, the cigarette analogy is a good one because at one time people didn't know about the health affects of cigarettes. Same for the emmissions from these farms. On the website http://tewksburyodor.org these health affects are explained and backed up by reliable sources

If the racetrack you speak of is noisier than it was before and breaks noise laws then the residents are right regardless of what you think. If not I agree they are dumb.

The farm stinks and releases noxious fumes into the neighborhood. It's illegal.
Boston Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
If there is something they can do to minimize the odor, then it should be looked into. But if my family had a business for 100 years, and some new people moved in next door and bitched about it, there might be more than paperwork flying around. The farm was there, the smell was there. Now, maybe the real estate agents who sold you the homes lied, which wouldn't surprise me at all. But the fact remains, they have precedent. As far as your example of cigarettes being there first, cmon, you know that is hardly an accurate example.
You bought a house next to a pig farm, you made a miscalculation, and now you want someone else to pay for your mistake. People in Hudson did this to the speedway, and the spoiled yuppies are doing it in Hollis to the shooting range. These businesses exist, and have a right to exist. If you dont like them, then dont move in next to them. Remember the folks who bought condos in Kissamee Florida and complained about the Disney traffic? The judge told them to go home and shut up.
Face it, you screwed up.
Tewksbury

Acton, MA

#13 Aug 16, 2007
Bob making insulting low blows in a forum is easy.

Of course I looked around the neighborhood. For weeks even: No smell in the winter. I did research: No stories or articles about smells. Helloooooo... They've gotten worse recently.:) I was clearly blind-sided here. I knew about horses in the neighborhood.

No one is asking for the farm to be shut down. Apparently you haven't looked at the website http://tewksburyodor.org . Half of Tewksbury smells like pig feces, becuase the farm won't implement modern, cost efficient technologies.
Boston Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok so ,the real estate agent(s) lied. Thats no surprise. But, you didnt drive around the neighborhood? You didnt check out the surrounding area? Did you do any research before you bought this property? Its not the farmers fault that the real estate agent lied, or that you didnt take the time to see where you were sitting before you sat down. Get together with your neighbors and make a list of all the real estate people you guys dealt with, and take them to court, and get a settlement. I bet that there will even be some agents who have since moved on to other jobs who will be glad to let you know that they were told to lie in order to sell these houses.
But, I would be very careful of starting any self righteous crusade that could end in the elimination of some ones lively hood. You might get back more than you bargained for.
And if you do get a settlement and move, dont move next to a shooting range, a speedway, an amusement park, a mall or anything else like that. Pay attention !!!
Tewksbury

Acton, MA

#14 Aug 16, 2007
Dan wrote:
Maybe the Yuppies can ask the farmer for discounted pork? With food prices sky-rocketing there can be advantages to living next to a farm :-) LOL - And they will need to spend their grocery money to pay off mortgages during "The Slow Train Wreck" (housing crisis)(energy crisis)(stock market crash)(unemployment)(weak dollar)(war)
There are thoughtful people on these forums. Dan is not one of them. Most of my neighbors and I are not "yuppies". Amazing what you think you know.
Dan

East Weymouth, MA

#15 Aug 17, 2007
Maybe the Yuppies can convince the pig farmer to construct a covered in-ground anaerobic reactor to convert pig waste into biogas, an energy source that can be used to generate clean electricity on site? This will help reduce green house emissions and fight global warming. And maybe the Yuppies can get discounted electricity?
Boston Bob

Chelsea, MA

#16 Aug 20, 2007
"Tewksbury" wrote:

"The farm stinks and releases noxious fumes into the neighborhood. It's illegal."

This is why I have been suspicious of your claims from the begining.
I am naturaly skeptical of people, and usually assume that whatever thay are saying is at least partially dishonest, or exaggerated. Your comment is a good example. If it WAS illegal, then there would be no need for this thread, because the pig farm would have been shut down. They HAVENT been shut down though, because what they are doing is not illegal. You through that in at the end of your sentence to add some more power to your argument, even though you knew it was a lie. So, now, as I expected, I do not know what other parts of your arguments are lies, so your entire argument is suspect. What else are you willing to lie about, or at the very least, exaggerate?
How many of your other facts are artificially inflated to bolster your argument? Once you start that crap, your argument goes downhill pretty quickly.
And no, the cigarette argument is pretty lame. Any one who has started to smoke within our lifetime knew it was bad, and did it anyway. The idea that ciggarettes are bad for you is a couple generations old now.
Dont get me wrong, I think that it sucks that your neighborhood stinks, but the neighborhood was built after the pig farm. Someone should be held accountable, but I dont think the farmer should get penalized by costly improvements, when he was there first.
Boston Bob

Chelsea, MA

#17 Aug 20, 2007
Tewksbury wrote:
Bob making insulting low blows in a forum is easy.
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It wasnt an insult, or a low blow. It was my opinion on the situation. If the smell is much worse lately for a certain reason, then maybe that could be looked into. But you wont get any sympathy from me. Just like the folks next to the raceway, next to the shooting range, and next to Disney dont get any. These are the same comments I would be making to you in person at any town meeting or public forum.
Have someone investigate why the smell is getting worse, and see if there is anything to be done. If there isnt, then move. And before you say that its a lot of work to move, I will anticipate your response and say that it would be easier for you to move then it would be for the pig farmer to change his business.
Ridge Runner

Exeter, NH

#18 Aug 20, 2007
Here are the FACTS:

TEWKSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH

REGULATIONS FOR KEEPING ANIMALS

1.0. PURPOSE

The Tewksbury Board of Health (“Board”) is responsible for the protection of the public health and welfare in the Town of Tewksbury. In an effort to protect the health and safety of the public and all animals in the town, the following regulations are promulgated.

2.0. AUTHORITY

These Regulations for Keeping Animals are adopted in accordance with the provisions of Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 111, Sections 31 and 155.

8.0. MANURE MANAGEMENT
8.2. Manure shall be stored in such a manner as to control flies and odors. Lime or other odor control methods shall be used as needed.

9.0. FEED MANAGEMENT
9.5. Bins for receiving garbage shall be cleaned after garbage is removed and shall be covered during warm weather.(The farm's pigs are fed garbage - food scraps)

11.0 SPECIAL SWINE PROVISIONS

11.1 Every holder of a permit to keep swine shall obtain a license to transport garbage, offal, or other offensive substances on the streets of Tewksbury in accordance with Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 111, section 31A and Town of Tewksbury Regulations. No such material shall be transported without obtaining said license. All garbage and other offensive materials shall be transported only in water tight containers and in a manner which prevents spillage and odors.

11.4. Manure and uneaten garbage shall be regularly removed from pens and shall be immediately removed from the premises or must be so kept that it will not constitute a nuisance and so that the pigs will not have access to it. All wastes shall be handled in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 8.0.

11.5. Wet muck in outdoor pens shall be removed as needed and replaced with clean sand.

11.6. An adequate number of persons shall be employed at all times for the proper maintenance and operation of the piggery. The Board may require a specific number of persons when deemed necessary.

15.0. PENALTIES

15.1. Any person found in violation of these regulations shall be fined, upon conviction, not more than $1,000.00 per violation. Each day of noncompliance shall constitute a separate and new offense.

15.2. Any person who is issued a permit or license by the Board and is found to be in violation of these or any other applicable regulation, may be subject to the immediate suspension or revocation of said permit or license.

15.3. The Regulations for Keeping Animals may be enforced by the use of Non-Criminal Citations as put forth in Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 40,§ 21D

Read the entire regulations here: http://www.tewksbury.net/dcd/health/Animal%20...
Boston Bob

Hudson, NH

#19 Aug 21, 2007
Ridge Runner wrote:
Here are the FACTS:
TEWKSBURY BOARD OF HEALTH
REGULATIONS FOR KEEPING ANIMALS
1.0. PURPOSE
The Tewksbury Board of Health (“Board”) is responsible for the protection of the public health and welfare in the Town of Tewksbury. In an effort to protect the health and safety of the public and all animals in the town, the following regulations are promulgated.
2.0. AUTHORITY
These Regulations for Keeping Animals are adopted in accordance with the provisions of Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 111, Sections 31 and 155.
8.0. MANURE MANAGEMENT
8.2. Manure shall be stored in such a manner as to control flies and odors. Lime or other odor control methods shall be used as needed.
9.0. FEED MANAGEMENT
9.5. Bins for receiving garbage shall be cleaned after garbage is removed and shall be covered during warm weather.(The farm's pigs are fed garbage - food scraps)
11.0 SPECIAL SWINE PROVISIONS
11.1 Every holder of a permit to keep swine shall obtain a license to transport garbage, offal, or other offensive substances on the streets of Tewksbury in accordance with Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 111, section 31A and Town of Tewksbury Regulations. No such material shall be transported without obtaining said license. All garbage and other offensive materials shall be transported only in water tight containers and in a manner which prevents spillage and odors.
11.4. Manure and uneaten garbage shall be regularly removed from pens and shall be immediately removed from the premises or must be so kept that it will not constitute a nuisance and so that the pigs will not have access to it. All wastes shall be handled in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 8.0.
11.5. Wet muck in outdoor pens shall be removed as needed and replaced with clean sand.
11.6. An adequate number of persons shall be employed at all times for the proper maintenance and operation of the piggery. The Board may require a specific number of persons when deemed necessary.
15.0. PENALTIES
15.1. Any person found in violation of these regulations shall be fined, upon conviction, not more than $1,000.00 per violation. Each day of noncompliance shall constitute a separate and new offense.
15.2. Any person who is issued a permit or license by the Board and is found to be in violation of these or any other applicable regulation, may be subject to the immediate suspension or revocation of said permit or license.
15.3. The Regulations for Keeping Animals may be enforced by the use of Non-Criminal Citations as put forth in Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 40,§ 21D
Read the entire regulations here: http://www.tewksbury.net/dcd/health/Animal%20...
Fine. Make sure they are following the guidelines. If they are not, then they will get a certain amount of time to comply. If they dont, then legal action can be taken. But, if they do adhere to the guidelines, then no one has a right to try and put them out of business.
acidwash

Brockton, MA

#20 Aug 30, 2007
There has been a disgusting odor of sewage for 2 days now and nothing has been done about it. Any chance anyone else has smelled this?

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