DeMoulas appeal again slows Stop & Sh...

DeMoulas appeal again slows Stop & Shop plans

There are 91 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Oct 4, 2008, titled DeMoulas appeal again slows Stop & Shop plans. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

Super Stop & Shop hit another red light in the construction express lane as DeMoulas Supermarkets Inc.

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Johnny

Braintree, MA

#21 Oct 6, 2008
Market Baskets Greed wrote:
I no longer shop at market basket due to thier greed. How many jobs and tax benefits has chelmsford lost from thier greed?
They have the best prices around, are you plugged in? Im assuming your also from chelmsford? Is it the water you guys are drinking over there or did you get fired?
Johnny

Braintree, MA

#22 Oct 6, 2008
Edward wrote:
Market Basket won on appeal, they delayed or succeeded in blocking Super Stop and Shop from being built. Actions taken by Market Basket shows me greed, they want a monopoly, they don't want competition or give people a choice. A choice of shopping someplace that is close to where they live. Would their actions be in violation of the Constitutional rights of others?
Let me ask you something. What do you think the other competitors are doing to market basket? do you live in a fairy land? thats buisiness and thats how it works or else you dont survive. Market Basket has been around a long time, good for them for fighting to staying on top.
Johnny

Braintree, MA

#23 Oct 6, 2008
Consumer wrote:
I want variety - name brand variety. I want the right to choose which store I shop in.
MB has removed too many name brand and replace them w/their label.
What is MB afraid of - competition is suppose to be good for business. Accept it, deal with it, learn from it and move on. All you are doing is spending money on lawyers and allienating more your customers.The money would be better spent on updating your stores.
Seriously, are you that oblivious to the concept of buisiness. What do you think the competitors are doing? Wouldnt you like to protect your investment?
bullet

Braintree, MA

#24 Oct 6, 2008
Does Market Basket sell rubbers?
Nevertheblame

Bethpage, NY

#25 Oct 6, 2008
Go Johnny go!
I agree,,,, that's business. Look at Billerica and the Home Depot battle! Now that's ridiculous. Worried about traffic, when the place is a mall already.It's all abhout protecting O'Connor Hardware. I like O'Connors and go there all the time. The Home Depot 200 yards away will do them in for sure. O'Connor gives a lot back to the community. But I like the prices better at The Home Depot.
Beebs

Mattapan, MA

#26 Oct 6, 2008
lower highlands resident wrote:
Go to the Market Basket on Wood St., they are trying to stuff so many items in there, displays and check out are hardly wide enough to make through.(no I'm not fat)
Fire dept should check, I think its a law should be 36 inches wide, I feel sorry if you where handicap.
I live near this Market Basket but I will only stop if I need a few things, otherwise I'll drive to another location. It's in need of a major rehab but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.
Chelmsford Kid

Randolph, MA

#27 Oct 6, 2008
Johnny wrote:
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First off, "chelmsford kid"- get a dictionary and learn how to spell demoulas. Secondly, if you had any remote idea of what kind of hard work it took to develop that empire, you wouldnt be so quick to judge. Do you have any idea how many people they have helped and how much money they have given to thousands of organizations across the state? You should also know one more thing, they were only defending what they created. The people suing were the greedy ones who could never get enough and wanted more and more. Get your facts straight and try having what you have worked for your whole life taken away by some leaches and a bought off judge. Then Id like to see you open your mouth.
Obviously you are passionate enough about this to be either close friend or family. I was also unaware that this family's name was in the dictionary...how cool. What I'm saying is they can't stand on their own merits so they feel threatened by another supermarket moving into the area. If they are a strong enough company it shouldn't matter. Kind of like having multiple gas stations right near each other right? or maybe McDonalds, Burger King and Wendy's right near each other. I'm also not discounting charitable contributions as most businesses in the area donate time, services and money to worthy causes. The rotten produce and cheap cuts of meat don't really help the discriminating shopper who is more concerned with quality than price either. Market Basket in Chelmsford (although in a different location) doesn't look any different than it did in the 1970's. Maybe a face lift and better quality product would help them not feel so outdated, inferior and defenseless against nice supermarkets like Hannafords and Stop and Shop.
Johnny

Braintree, MA

#28 Oct 6, 2008
Chelmsford Kid wrote:
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Obviously you are passionate enough about this to be either close friend or family. I was also unaware that this family's name was in the dictionary...how cool. What I'm saying is they can't stand on their own merits so they feel threatened by another supermarket moving into the area. If they are a strong enough company it shouldn't matter. Kind of like having multiple gas stations right near each other right? or maybe McDonalds, Burger King and Wendy's right near each other. I'm also not discounting charitable contributions as most businesses in the area donate time, services and money to worthy causes. The rotten produce and cheap cuts of meat don't really help the discriminating shopper who is more concerned with quality than price either. Market Basket in Chelmsford (although in a different location) doesn't look any different than it did in the 1970's. Maybe a face lift and better quality product would help them not feel so outdated, inferior and defenseless against nice supermarkets like Hannafords and Stop and Shop.
Like I said, you have to protect your investment. When it comes to quality, price and customer service, I believe most citizens of this state know Market Basket is number one and has been, as a matter of fact Fox had televised competing supermarkets a few months ago and, as sad as you are going to be when you hear this, market basket was right on top. You should go find it and enlighten yourself and maybe your views, or maybe the media is wrong as well. We will just have to concede that you know better than the public polls. Business is Business my friend and MB has overcome many obstacles and it still on top because of their leadership.
Roger

United States

#29 Oct 6, 2008
You get what you pay for in this world. MB is not interested in providing an enjoyable shopping environment. Their stores are the equivalent of a sweatshop factory.
Roche Brother's is the best but yes you will pay maybe 10% higher for the quality, selection, and better retail space. Past them you get into the ridculously priced Whole Earth Foods, Wild Oats, etc.
Chelmsford Kid

Randolph, MA

#30 Oct 6, 2008
Johnny wrote:
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Like I said, you have to protect your investment. When it comes to quality, price and customer service, I believe most citizens of this state know Market Basket is number one and has been, as a matter of fact Fox had televised competing supermarkets a few months ago and, as sad as you are going to be when you hear this, market basket was right on top. You should go find it and enlighten yourself and maybe your views, or maybe the media is wrong as well. We will just have to concede that you know better than the public polls. Business is Business my friend and MB has overcome many obstacles and it still on top because of their leadership.
I have been to Market Basket. I bought two live lobsters this summer and the girl working seafood brought them out of the walkin cooler and weighed and bagged them. I dropped them into a pot of boiling water and almost instantly could smell the most foul odor. Upon cracking open the claws a flood of flesh rotted water came gushing out. She had sold me dead lobsters. I pounded on the door (closed 5 minutes) and demanded new lobsters or my money back. The manager said he could do nothing about it. Told him I would be contacting Laurie from the board of health and bringing her the lobsters. He immediately allowed me in and admitted selling dead and near dieing lobsters from the walk-in. Wouldn't happen at a reputable supermarket. So quality and customer service was lacking here and I'm not concerned with price.
Mom

Billerica, MA

#31 Oct 6, 2008
Nevertheblame wrote:
Go Johnny go!
I agree,,,, that's business. Look at Billerica and the Home Depot battle! Now that's ridiculous. Worried about traffic, when the place is a mall already.It's all abhout protecting O'Connor Hardware. I like O'Connors and go there all the time. The Home Depot 200 yards away will do them in for sure. O'Connor gives a lot back to the community. But I like the prices better at The Home Depot.
Home Depot won't do anything for the community like O'Connors does. We have Home Depots in neighboring towns, very easy to get to. The mall owners have not done a thing for Billerica but let the place be an eye sore. I would much rather buy at O'connors what I can, than go to a Home Depot that hire's people and doesn't train them right. At least at O'Connors they can answer any question you have, home depot all I ever hear is "that's not my department"
Chelmsford Kid

Randolph, MA

#32 Oct 6, 2008
"When it comes to quality, price and customer service, I believe most citizens of this state know Market Basket is number one and has been, as a matter of fact Fox had televised competing supermarkets a few months ago and, as sad as you are going to be when you hear this, market basket was right on top. You should go find it and enlighten yourself and maybe your views, or maybe the media is wrong as well."

If this statement is true then Market Basket shouldn't have any worries at all and should welcome the competition.
Bronson

New Bedford, MA

#33 Oct 6, 2008
Market Basket prices can not be beat. Stop and Shop is so expensive even though it is a very nice store to shop and the quality of fresh stuff is better, MB will survive this Stop and Shop when it is built. Price is the bottom line, and MB has the best dairy, and non perishable prices around. They have the lowest meat and produce prices too, but the stuff is sketchy. They buy what is known as "dated" produce, stuff ready to get tossed in order to keep prices down. If you pick through the stuff carefully, you will be OK, otherwise, the stuff will rot on the ride home. The cucumbers look like they fell out of the back of a jeep heading across the border. As for beef, they are the only chain I know who carries "select" grade beef. These steaks still have the whip marks on them where the jockey was hitting them! Total shoe leather. They also carry choice, but I do not trust it. I will not buy beef there. Regular groceries, you bet. I like to go to a good butcher when I want a nice steak and pay for it and enjoy it. Actually, try some of the wholesale clubs, they are reasonable but you need a freezer and stock up, they sell large. Bottom line, Market Basket is well established in this area and will not suffer the competition of S&S. The people suffering are the neighbors who have that old cinema eyesore in their hood!
tewksy

Lowell, MA

#34 Oct 7, 2008
market basket 's has the better buys

“Local man loses mind.”

Since: Jun 08

Lowell

#35 Oct 7, 2008
Chelmsford Kid wrote:
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I have been to Market Basket. I bought two live lobsters this summer and the girl working seafood brought them out of the walkin cooler and weighed and bagged them. I dropped them into a pot of boiling water and almost instantly could smell the most foul odor. Upon cracking open the claws a flood of flesh rotted water came gushing out. She had sold me dead lobsters. I pounded on the door (closed 5 minutes) and demanded new lobsters or my money back. The manager said he could do nothing about it. Told him I would be contacting Laurie from the board of health and bringing her the lobsters. He immediately allowed me in and admitted selling dead and near dieing lobsters from the walk-in. Wouldn't happen at a reputable supermarket. So quality and customer service was lacking here and I'm not concerned with price.
I worked there as a kid and the night crew uses the lobsters for races, and there put in the mop buckets. O ya dont eat the ham salad.
Lowell

United States

#36 Oct 7, 2008
Chelmsford Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
I have been to Market Basket. I bought two live lobsters this summer and the girl working seafood brought them out of the walkin cooler and weighed and bagged them. I dropped them into a pot of boiling water and almost instantly could smell the most foul odor. Upon cracking open the claws a flood of flesh rotted water came gushing out. She had sold me dead lobsters. I pounded on the door (closed 5 minutes) and demanded new lobsters or my money back. The manager said he could do nothing about it. Told him I would be contacting Laurie from the board of health and bringing her the lobsters. He immediately allowed me in and admitted selling dead and near dieing lobsters from the walk-in. Wouldn't happen at a reputable supermarket. So quality and customer service was lacking here and I'm not concerned with price.
so you're saying the manager who was not in the deli area at the time you went to get your lobsters and who was not watching you the entire time you were in the store and who basically had no idea how your lobsters looked told you he knew you were sold dead or near dead lobsters? I don't believe it. In fact, you didn't even notice yourself until you put them in the water. So, how was the girl or the manager to know your lobsters were bad if you didn't even notice until they were cooked? They don't cook them for you unless asked and they certainly wouldn't sell them to you if they were bad or dead. Yes it is aggravating to find that you bought something spoiled but it's not like they go out and personally hand pick each lobster or piece of fish or chicken or steak. Everything is ordered from other companies and Market basket wouldn't know until they receive their shipment to know what is bad and what isn't. And they certainly wounldn't intentionally put out bad food.FYI- lobsters are not kept in a walk-in cooler- they are kept in the tanks so if thats where she cam from ,your lobsters were just received from the vendor.
Have a nice day!
Johnny

Braintree, MA

#37 Oct 7, 2008
Lowell wrote:
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so you're saying the manager who was not in the deli area at the time you went to get your lobsters and who was not watching you the entire time you were in the store and who basically had no idea how your lobsters looked told you he knew you were sold dead or near dead lobsters? I don't believe it. In fact, you didn't even notice yourself until you put them in the water. So, how was the girl or the manager to know your lobsters were bad if you didn't even notice until they were cooked? They don't cook them for you unless asked and they certainly wouldn't sell them to you if they were bad or dead. Yes it is aggravating to find that you bought something spoiled but it's not like they go out and personally hand pick each lobster or piece of fish or chicken or steak. Everything is ordered from other companies and Market basket wouldn't know until they receive their shipment to know what is bad and what isn't. And they certainly wounldn't intentionally put out bad food.FYI- lobsters are not kept in a walk-in cooler- they are kept in the tanks so if thats where she cam from ,your lobsters were just received from the vendor.
Have a nice day!
--Well said
Chelmsford Kid

North Chelmsford, MA

#38 Oct 7, 2008
Lowell wrote:
<quoted text>
so you're saying the manager who was not in the deli area at the time you went to get your lobsters and who was not watching you the entire time you were in the store and who basically had no idea how your lobsters looked told you he knew you were sold dead or near dead lobsters? I don't believe it. In fact, you didn't even notice yourself until you put them in the water. So, how was the girl or the manager to know your lobsters were bad if you didn't even notice until they were cooked? They don't cook them for you unless asked and they certainly wouldn't sell them to you if they were bad or dead. Yes it is aggravating to find that you bought something spoiled but it's not like they go out and personally hand pick each lobster or piece of fish or chicken or steak. Everything is ordered from other companies and Market basket wouldn't know until they receive their shipment to know what is bad and what isn't. And they certainly wounldn't intentionally put out bad food.FYI- lobsters are not kept in a walk-in cooler- they are kept in the tanks so if thats where she cam from ,your lobsters were just received from the vendor.
Have a nice day!
Actually I did notice the lobsters were limp. And the manager did admit that they shouldn't have been sold to me. He walked back into the walk-in which is right behind the fish counter and told me that there were dead lobsters there. I also brought the nasty, smelly cooked remains of both lobsters back to the store. He also stated that they did have complaints about the girl and were letting her go. Yes, I did think that it was strange that lobsters were coming from the walk-in cooler and not the tank but she said she was afraid of the lobsters in the tank.
Chelmsford Kid

North Chelmsford, MA

#39 Oct 7, 2008
lower highlands resident wrote:
<quoted text>
I worked there as a kid and the night crew uses the lobsters for races, and there put in the mop buckets. O ya dont eat the ham salad.
As much as I probably don't want to know....what about the ham salad?
Johnny

Braintree, MA

#40 Oct 7, 2008
lower highlands resident wrote:
<quoted text>
I worked there as a kid and the night crew uses the lobsters for races, and there put in the mop buckets. O ya dont eat the ham salad.
Which lobster won? Did the winning lobster get to live? or did you eat it? Sounds kinda fun actually, if I was stuck in a fish tank waiting to get eaten, i wouldnt mind a little exercise. Mop buckets, a little far fetched. Were you watching them race as well? If your so concerned about quality why didnt you say something at the time to your manager or supervisor or were they racing them as well? Or did the managers get the mop buckets out and join in on the fun? Maybe they were the referees? If this did occur, and as a result the quality was poor,(which is your argument) then as a market basket employee wouldnt it be your responsibility to say something and alert a manager for the best of the consumer?

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