Florida - Florida Lawmaker Wants to Ban Pit Bulls

[what on earth]

William wrote:

Below is a partial list of countries and cities/counties in the United States that have banned or have current “proposed” legislation to ban Pit Bulls.
Each listed has their own laws and regulations that vary from area to area.
However, all listed impact Pit Bulls and some include other selected breeds as well.
This is info I gathered off the net. I have no reason to doubt this is basically correct.
If you want to pick at it…knock yourself out.
The United States pit bull banned cities:
Delta, Utah
Independence, Missouri
Overland Park, Kansas
Springville, Utah
Miami-Dade County, Florida
Council Bluffs, Iowa
Royal City, Washington
Denver, Colorado
Prince George’s County, Maryland
Yonkers, NY
Springfield, Missouri
Enumclaw, Washington
Garfield Heights, Ohio
Sparta, Tenn.
Melvindale, Michigan
Countries:
Ontario and Winnipeg, Canada
Australia
France
Norway
United Kingdom
Denmark
New Zealand
The Netherlands
Currently proposed in US:
Oklahoma
Shelbyville, Tenn.
New York City, NY
Aurora, Colorado
Youngstown, Ohio
Richland, Washington
Tupelo, Miss.
Parker, Colorado
Chicago, Ill.
Anderson City, SC

the UK is not totally correct BUT I will double check.........I have a pit and my parents visit often and they have told me some of the issues that are raging in the UK about them, the main one being that in CERTAIN parts of the UK some one can call and complain that JUST be seeing my dog they feel unsafe and as such the local police will come and take her away.........but all pits have to be muzzled and all the other stuff if they are out in public, hence why i will NEVER take her with me when I go home..........but like I said I will double check and see if they are actually banned yet..........oh and just for your info they trotted out the same BS line re German Shepards, Dobermans & Rotties over the years.......... my parents make every effort to show off pics of my dog when they go back home, you know the ones of her dressed in her 4th of july outfit, her bumble outfit for halloween, her sponge bob t,shirt for when it gets chilly, her duck rain coat for when she has to pee and it is raining.........they could not work out why she would not go out....and called me, told them put her rain mac on and she would be fine BUT they must have a towel ready to wipe her feet and her tail.........they just about fell over laughing BUT they did so, they found it odd that she would not go inside the main house without being rubbed off with her towel..........ban the bad DOGS not the entire breed.

[Mr Logic in Jax]

If you want to own a Pit Bull there should be no law against it, that’s freedom, but,(big but) If your dog hurts someone then take the responsibility and the consequences that comes with that freedom
The Constitution of the United States of America
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
We the people of today do not understand what the founding fathers were trying to do. The word secure was used to only guarantee the blessing of liberty (freedom). Yet the majority, if not all laws written today are the exact opposite. Will banning dogs ensure one’s safety, NO, but it will take another’s liberty away. The founding fathers believed that laws should set guidelines of responsible behavior between citizens, not to punish an individual. If my actions or behaviors do not impose on or take another’s freedom away then no crime has been committed. Once I cross that line then the other person deserves justice, but not before. Image,(big fantasy yes) if all behavior laws were abolished, how many would we have then.

Americans no longer want freedom, just promises of security, and stupid laws like this prove that everyday.

[what on earth]

Mr Logic in Jax wrote:

If you want to own a Pit Bull there should be no law against it, that’s freedom, but,(big but) If your dog hurts someone then take the responsibility and the consequences that comes with that freedom
The Constitution of the United States of America
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
We the people of today do not understand what the founding fathers were trying to do. The word secure was used to only guarantee the blessing of liberty (freedom). Yet the majority, if not all laws written today are the exact opposite. Will banning dogs ensure one’s safety, NO, but it will take another’s liberty away. The founding fathers believed that laws should set guidelines of responsible behavior between citizens, not to punish an individual. If my actions or behaviors do not impose on or take another’s freedom away then no crime has been committed. Once I cross that line then the other person deserves justice, but not before. Image,(big fantasy yes) if all behavior laws were abolished, how many would we have then.
Americans no longer want freedom, just promises of security, and stupid laws like this prove that everyday.

totally agreed, my dog, my fault......so long as that also covers some idiot climbing over my 6ft fence and trying to break in.........at that point I think all bets should be off.

[Crossing Enemy Lines]

Mr Logic in Jax wrote:

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Let me think about that one.

I think that if they are going to kill things that bite other things, then we shouldn't make any exceptions!!! Come on people... lets all go get in line and wait to die cause you know YOU ALL BIT someone in your life time! Let's go... single file please!! No shoving and not cutting in line... PEOPLE WILL BITE! Stupid freaking idiots! They should be killed off not the pits! Stupid people!! hahaha

[stopTAGGING ourWALLS]

what on earth wrote:

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you dont have to like my dog but NOTHING gives you the right to take her and kill her JUST becuase you do not like the breed, she has NOT done anything to you or anyone else, so why should she be killed just becuase of bad owners.

I'm pretty sure you did not read or
comprehend what I wrote.

But........

If you have a bad animal, you know it's a
bad animal, you do nothing of any consequences
to correct or restrain a bad animal,

and your animal gets close enough to me
to become a REAL threat,

I never, NEVER approach mean animals.

If I feel THAT threatened, I will react.

SO,

you'd better get a shovel, and dig a grave.

There are men on this planet that think that
beating their wife is not bad for the woman.

What do you think about that?

PS......I'm not one of them!

[ruuuud]

ban black people

[raw and loaded]

If a single breed is resposible for 1/3 of all attacks and when other puppy breeds eat/kill their owner...then maybe we can get a complete dog and cat ban....

William...in your crib...was that yesterday...once again...its not flawed logic, it called sarcasm....thats it...nothing more.

[c-dub]

I think it is such a crazy idea to kill animals more people die from lung and other types of cancer, than Pitbull bites

[stopTAGGING ourWALLS]

c-dub wrote:

I think it is such a crazy idea to kill animals more people die from lung and other types of cancer, than Pitbull bites

CANCER to pitbull bites????

You don't have a clue.

You can get cancer. You can get a dog.

You can get surgery for your cancer.

You can get surgery because of your dog.

HELLO.....McFly??

[nicole]

i cant even feel safe walking my dog for fear of loose pit bulls. where can i email in support of the ban?

unfortunately because of many irresponsible pit bull owners, the responsible ones must suffer also.

[scott1]

nicole wrote:

i cant even feel safe walking my dog for fear of loose pit bulls. where can i email in support of the ban?
unfortunately because of many irresponsible pit bull owners, the responsible ones must suffer also.

why dont you go after the owners of ANY breed or dog that is running lose? any roaming dog can and will attack.

[do_right]

scott1 wrote:

<quoted text>why dont you go after the owners of ANY breed or dog that is running lose? any roaming dog can and will attack.

while i don't agree that any lose dog can and will attack. i do agree that any lose dog has the potential to attack. and i worry about this when i walk my 3 babies because lose dogs that attack, will generally attack my dogs before they will attack me. i talked to the guy that is running ACC now, and he said that if i call in about a lose dog, that they would not come out unless i had it restrained. I think that we need bigger fines for owners of dogs that attack people and animals not banning the animal. I heard the other day that you can tell how a person will treat another person by the way that they treat there animals.
May God have mercy on us all.

[scott1]

do_right wrote:

<quoted text>
while i don't agree that any lose dog can and will attack. i do agree that any lose dog has the potential to attack. and i worry about this when i walk my 3 babies because lose dogs that attack, will generally attack my dogs before they will attack me. i talked to the guy that is running ACC now, and he said that if i call in about a lose dog, that they would not come out unless i had it restrained. I think that we need bigger fines for owners of dogs that attack people and animals not banning the animal. I heard the other day that you can tell how a person will treat another person by the way that they treat there animals.
May God have mercy on us all.

sorry..i didnt mean to say any lose dog will attack..i meant to say they have the potential to attack..and ACC is a joke honestly. and you are right about people treating animals how they treat others. i have seen viscious pitbulls, sheperds, dauchunds and pomeranians..etc..etc...it all depends on the dogs bloodlines, their own temperment(like our personalities) and how they are reared. i have a pitbull and an american staffordshire terrier and they are both the biggest babies and both think they are 80 pound lap dogs. but i also had a chihuhaua one time that was just naturally agressive and i raised her from a puppy. and she would rip you to pieces if she wasnt in the mood to be handled. i feel like the biggest problem is irresponsible owners. you have people that buy dogs because they are the fad dog at the time and when that happens, then the breed itself gets a bad name because of poor owners who only care about owning the popular dog and no nothing of the breed itself.

[noshellswill]

scott1 wrote:

<quoted text>why dont you go after the owners of ANY breed or dog that is running lose? any roaming dog can and will attack.

What excuse-laden bunk! You're in "denial" and retreat from simple facts. Dammfew other dogs can do the damage that ROTS & PITS can do. SNARLRIPGASH!!! It's a matter of power and genetically engineered viciousness.

What don't you understand? A big-dog with big-teeth and a genetically engineered aggressive disposition is intrinsically more dangerous than a micromutt. So dangerous in fact that they kill/maim dozens of people a year and thus should be excluded within city limits.

[scott1]

noshellswill wrote:

<quoted text>
What excuse-laden bunk! You're in "denial" and retreat from simple facts. Dammfew other dogs can do the damage that ROTS & PITS can do. SNARLRIPGASH!!! It's a matter of power and genetically engineered viciousness.
What don't you understand? A big-dog with big-teeth and a genetically engineered aggressive disposition is intrinsically more dangerous than a micromutt. So dangerous in fact that they kill/maim dozens of people a year and thus should be excluded within city limits.

so now you are including rotties? lets add dobies, sheperds, akitas, boxers, mastiff's ...and lets go ahead and add other large breeds such as labs and retrievers..lets just make a law outlawing any dog over 20 pounds..would that make you happen? do you even know the history of the pitbull? how they were bred AWAY from bullbaiting to be loyal, fearless family companions? and all the famous people who have owned and loved the breed. im not denying that when a pitbull or any bully breed for that matters bites, its bad..and can be deadly..but they are not genetically predisposed to that behavior. instead of just making broad, ignorant uneducated statements, do some research on the breed and the support they have from the american veternarians association, the cdc and many animal rights groups.

[nicole]

WOULD LOVE TO BUT HOW CAN I FIND THEM? these loose dogs dont normally have any tags on!

scott1 wrote:

<quoted text>why dont you go after the owners of ANY breed or dog that is running lose? any roaming dog can and will attack.

[nicole]

also, animal control does not pick up dogs on weekends (only mon-fri 9-5) so if you feel threatened on a weekend then you are outta luck.

do_right wrote:

<quoted text>
while i don't agree that any lose dog can and will attack. i do agree that any lose dog has the potential to attack. and i worry about this when i walk my 3 babies because lose dogs that attack, will generally attack my dogs before they will attack me. i talked to the guy that is running ACC now, and he said that if i call in about a lose dog, that they would not come out unless i had it restrained. I think that we need bigger fines for owners of dogs that attack people and animals not banning the animal. I heard the other day that you can tell how a person will treat another person by the way that they treat there animals.
May God have mercy on us all.

[nicole]

but the pit bull breeds ARE without a doubt genetically predisposed to ANIMAL AGGRESSION. they may not go after a human all the time but they certainly will go after another animal TOO MUCH OF THE TIME! then the human can get hurt trying to break up the fight. also, there are tons of incidents where a "loving family pet biggest baby lap dog PITBULL" all of a sudden turned on it's family. These dogs are too dangerous to be allowed in society. i love all animals but we need to think about humans and their safety first.

scott1 wrote:

<quoted text>so now you are including rotties? lets add dobies, sheperds, akitas, boxers, mastiff's ...and lets go ahead and add other large breeds such as labs and retrievers..lets just make a law outlawing any dog over 20 pounds..would that make you happen? do you even know the history of the pitbull? how they were bred AWAY from bullbaiting to be loyal, fearless family companions? and all the famous people who have owned and loved the breed. im not denying that when a pitbull or any bully breed for that matters bites, its bad..and can be deadly..but they are not genetically predisposed to that behavior. instead of just making broad, ignorant uneducated statements, do some research on the breed and the support they have from the american veternarians association, the cdc and many animal rights groups.

[bentnotbroken]

Many seem to disreguard animal behavior, as well as their capabilities.

The law should first look at the breeds capable of killing--or at least the breeds that have killed humans. Then use the information already collected--as well as other data that may be needed and use that.

Of course lawyers need more people and more dog owners to sue, so don't look for any sanity in our laws. Lawyers are scum sucking dogs --of course they were taught that way, just as some breeds of dogs are taught.

[scott1]

nicole wrote:

but the pit bull breeds ARE without a doubt genetically predisposed to ANIMAL AGGRESSION. they may not go after a human all the time but they certainly will go after another animal TOO MUCH OF THE TIME! then the human can get hurt trying to break up the fight. also, there are tons of incidents where a "loving family pet biggest baby lap dog PITBULL" all of a sudden turned on it's family. These dogs are too dangerous to be allowed in society. i love all animals but we need to think about humans and their safety first.<quoted text>

if anyone who owns a pitbull does any research than they will know they can be animal agressive and will raise their dogs to be socialized from a puppy and there wont be any issues...once again..it goes back to the owner..NOT THE BREED...pitbulls arent the only dogs who are more animal agressive than other breeds either...most bigger working type dogs are..but no one seems to jump on the bandwagon to have them banned.