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Mar 4, 2008 | Posted by: the 48th ronin

Heineman: Illegal immigrants should not get state benefits

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News - State/Regional News Heineman: Illegal immigrants should not get state benefits by George Lauby - 3/3/2008 Photo by George Lauby Gov. After a setback in the Legislature, Gov. Dave Heineman is continuing to try to stop illegal immigrants from receiving state and local welfare benefits.

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“You think it is ok, so what!”

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With Heineman’s encouragement, Sen. Mike Friend of Omaha introduced a bill that would verify the legal immigration status of anyone applying for welfare. The Legislature's judiciary committee killed the bill last week.

Now, in a letter Heineman sent Monday to newspapers across Nebraska, he is asking the committee to reconsider its decision.

And, to show how the system would work, Heineman invites the media to demonstration of the federal government’s Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements March 5 in Lincoln.

Under the bill, anyone applying for benefits would sign an affidavit declaring they are either a U.S. citizen or a resident alien. Agencies would then check that information against a federal database. Applicants determined to be in the country illegally would be denied.

“A nation of legal immigrants”

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Why don't they ask the residents of L.A. County?

Los Angels County:

10% of Los Angeles County residents are illegal aliens (the highest percentage of county residents in the country)

Illegal aliens cost the county greater than one billion dollars per year in taxpayer costs, not counting education.
Breakdown:
$444 million for welfare and food stamps
$400 million for health care
$220 million for correctional services, law enforcement and other public safety costs

New statistics from the Department of Public Social Services reveal that illegal aliens and their families in Los Angeles County collected over $37 million in welfare and food stamp allocations in November 2007, which is up $3 million dollars from September.

Children of illegal aliens receive 25% of welfare and food stamp money.

---Mike Antonovich, LA County Supervisor

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Mindboggling and insane. That's what it is.
Milt Smith

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Illegal invaders shouldn't get any benefits!! They should be jailed and deported!!

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I am fed up with anyone and everyone who panders to the illegals. Please don't use the term "illegal immigrant". They are illegals. PERIOD. Why in heaven's name to law breakers think they are entitled to live off a country they are not citizens of? The Democrats are the worst of the political parties who want to roll over and play dead for the illegals. Once again and I am stating this loud and clear-BUILD THE FENCE, BUILD THE FENCE, BUILD THE FENCE!!!!!
german

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I have had it with illegals and those who support them.I was kicked off the grand island forums for disagreing with a 65 year old man from papillion ne who supports the illegals.How sick is this.

Look at towns they have taken over and ruined it is discusting and this man from papillion who calls himself zoomie went as far as to say that illegals make this country money.WRONG.

When is our government going to stop this mass influction of foreigners that are destroying our country.
abouttime

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All of our social security benefits etc. will be gone before we can ever draw on OUR paid in money. Why? Because the government has decided to hand it out to illegals who have never paid in a dime. It's my money & I don't want it going to illegals.
They want to be in this country then do like our forefathers. Go thru entry points w/proper papers, work hard & be proud to be IN America. Become a citizen & be proud to be AN American. Don't come here demanding my hard earned money so you can bitch & complain about wanting more freebies at my expense!
Yes, BUILD THE FENCE, build it HIGH & wide!
lollypop

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England is just as bad,,,,,,,, you get them everywhere,,, and now what our government is doing is paying them to leave when they've come here, committed a crime, and when their jail term has ended they are giving them 3 grand to go home,,,,,,,,,, madness!!!!!!
HUMAN BEING

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I am disgusted by the insensitivity and the ignorance of these comments. The connation and demeanor of these outlandish comments can only liken you people to the GUSTAPO. I hope you are proud of yourselves--we are a nation of immigrants and illegal "aliens" are HUMAN BEINGS. Even the terminology is inciteful, blasphemous, and RACIST.....But at the end of the day YOU people have to live with yourselves.
Families are being torn apart, children are left orphaned...people come here for an opportunity at a better life.....YOU ALL WOULD DO THE EXACT SAME IF THE SHOE WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT---so just know that your arrogant, hypocritical, and RACIST comments are actually ANTI-AMERICAN as our forefathers came here to ESCAPE exactly the type of inhumane treatment YOU PEOPLE are now supporting and enacting. So stop with the patriotism BS because YOU have no loyalty to humanity, the pursuit of happiness, civil rights or the such. So sit in your narrow-minded world-view and wallow in your hateful selves--I hope your arrogance helps you sleep at night.

I understand your point on entering in the correct, legal manner. My issue is more with the people who support the "wild west rope-n-dope" round people up like animals mentality that is plaguing much of this country.
I'm a 3rd generation Italian-Irish-Czech-Croation-U krainian and all my ancestors entered through Ellis Island as well. Both my grandfathers proudly served in WWII.
My point is that when the Irish came, when the Italians came, when each successive generation of immigrants came--they were subjected to bigotry, hatred, and the like.
We have to stand up for human rights here.
Many of the people who are being deported are NOT criminals and many DO pay taxes.
It is not as simple as being LEGAL or ILLEGAL. There are various forms of papers that are somewhere in-between--work visas, student visas, travel visas, etc.
And many countries have different policies and require yearly renewal at EXHORBITANT fees!--its a racket.
Also, many people who were caught in Irving were subjected to "check-point" stops which is a Civil Rights violation.
Also, entire MALLS, apartment complexes, etc. are being scathed as if they are "hunting" people and people are being rounded up and stuffed in buses.
This HAS to stop. Let's help people FIX their papers, NOT treat them as sub-human.
Please.
Milt Smith

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HUMAN BEING wrote:
I am disgusted by the insensitivity and the ignorance of these comments. The connation and demeanor of these outlandish comments can only liken you people to the GUSTAPO. I hope you are proud of yourselves--we are a nation of immigrants and illegal "aliens" are HUMAN BEINGS. Even the terminology is inciteful, blasphemous, and RACIST.....But at the end of the day YOU people have to live with yourselves.
Families are being torn apart, children are left orphaned...people come here for an opportunity at a better life.....YOU ALL WOULD DO THE EXACT SAME IF THE SHOE WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT---so just know that your arrogant, hypocritical, and RACIST comments are actually ANTI-AMERICAN as our forefathers came here to ESCAPE exactly the type of inhumane treatment YOU PEOPLE are now supporting and enacting. So stop with the patriotism BS because YOU have no loyalty to humanity, the pursuit of happiness, civil rights or the such. So sit in your narrow-minded world-view and wallow in your hateful selves--I hope your arrogance helps you sleep at night.
I understand your point on entering in the correct, legal manner. My issue is more with the people who support the "wild west rope-n-dope" round people up like animals mentality that is plaguing much of this country.
I'm a 3rd generation Italian-Irish-Czech-Croation-U krainian and all my ancestors entered through Ellis Island as well. Both my grandfathers proudly served in WWII.
My point is that when the Irish came, when the Italians came, when each successive generation of immigrants came--they were subjected to bigotry, hatred, and the like.
We have to stand up for human rights here.
Many of the people who are being deported are NOT criminals and many DO pay taxes.
It is not as simple as being LEGAL or ILLEGAL. There are various forms of papers that are somewhere in-between--work visas, student visas, travel visas, etc.
And many countries have different policies and require yearly renewal at EXHORBITANT fees!--its a racket.
Also, many people who were caught in Irving were subjected to "check-point" stops which is a Civil Rights violation.
Also, entire MALLS, apartment complexes, etc. are being scathed as if they are "hunting" people and people are being rounded up and stuffed in buses.
This HAS to stop. Let's help people FIX their papers, NOT treat them as sub-human.
Please.
I don't care if the illegals pay taxes or not!!! They must return to their home countries!!!
Texas Expatriate

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Halt's Maul du rassistisches Arschloch!
Was heisst den "unser Land"? Wichser!
german wrote:
I have had it with illegals and those who support them.I was kicked off the grand island forums for disagreing with a 65 year old man from papillion ne who supports the illegals.How sick is this.
Look at towns they have taken over and ruined it is discusting and this man from papillion who calls himself zoomie went as far as to say that illegals make this country money.WRONG.
When is our government going to stop this mass influction of foreigners that are destroying our country.
Texas Expatriate

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Amen veAmen veAmen!!!!!
HUMAN BEING wrote:
I am disgusted by the insensitivity and the ignorance of these comments. The connation and demeanor of these outlandish comments can only liken you people to the GUSTAPO. I hope you are proud of yourselves--we are a nation of immigrants and illegal "aliens" are HUMAN BEINGS. Even the terminology is inciteful, blasphemous, and RACIST.....But at the end of the day YOU people have to live with yourselves.
Families are being torn apart, children are left orphaned...people come here for an opportunity at a better life.....YOU ALL WOULD DO THE EXACT SAME IF THE SHOE WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT---so just know that your arrogant, hypocritical, and RACIST comments are actually ANTI-AMERICAN as our forefathers came here to ESCAPE exactly the type of inhumane treatment YOU PEOPLE are now supporting and enacting. So stop with the patriotism BS because YOU have no loyalty to humanity, the pursuit of happiness, civil rights or the such. So sit in your narrow-minded world-view and wallow in your hateful selves--I hope your arrogance helps you sleep at night.
I understand your point on entering in the correct, legal manner. My issue is more with the people who support the "wild west rope-n-dope" round people up like animals mentality that is plaguing much of this country.
I'm a 3rd generation Italian-Irish-Czech-Croation-U krainian and all my ancestors entered through Ellis Island as well. Both my grandfathers proudly served in WWII.
My point is that when the Irish came, when the Italians came, when each successive generation of immigrants came--they were subjected to bigotry, hatred, and the like.
We have to stand up for human rights here.
Many of the people who are being deported are NOT criminals and many DO pay taxes.
It is not as simple as being LEGAL or ILLEGAL. There are various forms of papers that are somewhere in-between--work visas, student visas, travel visas, etc.
And many countries have different policies and require yearly renewal at EXHORBITANT fees!--its a racket.
Also, many people who were caught in Irving were subjected to "check-point" stops which is a Civil Rights violation.
Also, entire MALLS, apartment complexes, etc. are being scathed as if they are "hunting" people and people are being rounded up and stuffed in buses.
This HAS to stop. Let's help people FIX their papers, NOT treat them as sub-human.
Please.
Pando

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HUMAN BEING wrote:
I am disgusted by the insensitivity and the ignorance of these comments. The connation and demeanor of these outlandish comments can only liken you people to the GUSTAPO. I hope you are proud of yourselves--we are a nation of immigrants and illegal "aliens" are HUMAN BEINGS. Even the terminology is inciteful, blasphemous, and RACIST.....But at the end of the day YOU people have to live with yourselves.
Families are being torn apart, children are left orphaned...people come here for an opportunity at a better life.....YOU ALL WOULD DO THE EXACT SAME IF THE SHOE WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT---so just know that your arrogant, hypocritical, and RACIST comments are actually ANTI-AMERICAN as our forefathers came here to ESCAPE exactly the type of inhumane treatment YOU PEOPLE are now supporting and enacting. So stop with the patriotism BS because YOU have no loyalty to humanity, the pursuit of happiness, civil rights or the such. So sit in your narrow-minded world-view and wallow in your hateful selves--I hope your arrogance helps you sleep at night.
I understand your point on entering in the correct, legal manner. My issue is more with the people who support the "wild west rope-n-dope" round people up like animals mentality that is plaguing much of this country.
I'm a 3rd generation Italian-Irish-Czech-Croation-U krainian and all my ancestors entered through Ellis Island as well. Both my grandfathers proudly served in WWII.
My point is that when the Irish came, when the Italians came, when each successive generation of immigrants came--they were subjected to bigotry, hatred, and the like.
We have to stand up for human rights here.
Many of the people who are being deported are NOT criminals and many DO pay taxes.
It is not as simple as being LEGAL or ILLEGAL. There are various forms of papers that are somewhere in-between--work visas, student visas, travel visas, etc.
And many countries have different policies and require yearly renewal at EXHORBITANT fees!--its a racket.
Also, many people who were caught in Irving were subjected to "check-point" stops which is a Civil Rights violation.
Also, entire MALLS, apartment complexes, etc. are being scathed as if they are "hunting" people and people are being rounded up and stuffed in buses.
This HAS to stop. Let's help people FIX their papers, NOT treat them as sub-human.
Please.
Why are you not angered by the ILLEGAL ALIENS who do not respect America or it's citizens?

Why are you not angered by ILLEGAL ALIENS who disregard our laws?

Why are you not angered by the ILLEGAL ALIENS who steal American's jobs.

We have to stand up for our laws here. ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS are criminals whether you want to recognize that fact or not.

You are wrong. It IS as simple as being LEGAL or ILLEGAL. The "various forms of papers that are somewhere in-between--work visas, student visas, travel visas, etc." are all LEGAL. People who sneak over our border or overstay their visas are ILLEGAL. It is as simple as that.

"Civil Rights" are for U.S. citizens and legal immigrants. Not ILLEGAL ALIENS since they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S..

It is against our Federal laws for ILLEGAL ALIENS to rent or obtain housing in the U.S.. When looking for criminals one usually goes to the places where you expect them to be.

"Fix their papers"? Most ILLEGAL ALIENS don't have any---unless you count the stolen Id they purchased on the street corner.

All criminals are human beings---murderers; rapists; burglars; robbers; thieves and ILLEGAL ALIENS. They all must pay for their crime according to our laws. In the case of ILLEGAL ALIENS the punishment is deportation.

You are absolutely right----"This HAS to stop."!

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illegal immigrants are good for the economy. it's too late to lose any sleep over it.
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theMickeys wrote:
illegal immigrants are good for the economy. it's too late to lose any sleep over it.
No, most of their money is sent back to Mexico. We are in a recession, so obviously illegals have not contributed to the economy.
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Holden McGroin wrote:
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Our recession has nothing to do with whether they've contributed or not.
Please do some more homework.
NightOwl

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Holden McGroin wrote:
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Don't need to. Was an Economics minor in College.
I never went to colledge, I was too busy learning stuff.....Dont waste an education.
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Sorry your parent's wasted their $$. Illegal $$out, compared to $$ in?= WHAT? O Great Economist? How would keeping remittances in the US help "OUR" economy? Or do you think your gov education is the enlightenment of the world's future? Economist and lawyers are alost cause.
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the 48th ronin wrote:
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With Heineman’s encouragement, Sen. Mike Friend of Omaha introduced a bill that would verify the legal immigration status of anyone applying for welfare. The Legislature's judiciary committee killed the bill last week.
Now, in a letter Heineman sent Monday to newspapers across Nebraska, he is asking the committee to reconsider its decision.
And, to show how the system would work, Heineman invites the media to demonstration of the federal government’s Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements March 5 in Lincoln.
Under the bill, anyone applying for benefits would sign an affidavit declaring they are either a U.S. citizen or a resident alien. Agencies would then check that information against a federal database. Applicants determined to be in the country illegally would be denied.
the state of nebraska regularly provides benifits to illigal aliens through the department of health and human services. Letters of medical entitlement, home based services, and child welfare fuunds are used to provide services to abuse neglect families, and families of status offence or delinquent youth placed in their custody by the courts. case managers are directed to ignore the facts that the families are not legally entitled to be in htis country. The govenor knows this and does nothing to stop it.
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I just asked a simple question, Yet you didnt answer it? Here is just a little sample.

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