Supporters Hope 3rd Time's the Charm for School Levy

There are 20 comments on the Sep 29, 2010, WJW Fox 8 Cleveland story titled Supporters Hope 3rd Time's the Charm for School Levy. In it, WJW Fox 8 Cleveland reports that:

Backers of a local school levy are working hard to convince voters to say yes. They say if the third straight levy request in North Olmsted fails, the result will be devastating.

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Student

North Olmsted, OH

#1 Sep 29, 2010
We need this levy to pass! Please help the students and staff at North Olmsted City Schools to have a great school year! Good schools means great city. We need all the support and every vote counts. Please go out and vote yes for issue 9 on November 2, 2010 for the future of tomorrow.
-North Olmsted City School Student
Tax Payer

North Olmsted, OH

#2 Sep 29, 2010
Sorry Student, but until the teachers union makes cut I'm still voting no.
Student wrote:
We need this levy to pass! Please help the students and staff at North Olmsted City Schools to have a great school year! Good schools means great city. We need all the support and every vote counts. Please go out and vote yes for issue 9 on November 2, 2010 for the future of tomorrow.
-North Olmsted City School Student
Motheristhinking NO

Erie, PA

#3 Sep 29, 2010
I grew up in N. Olmsted and just moved back with my family. Since I was a kid they have tried to pass a levy ever other year. Remember in High School we even had a walk out because the levy didn't pass. Now as an adult that has High School kids I think this levy is crap! I already have to fork over $500 for my two girls to take classes at this free public school! What kinda crap is that!! Now your asking more money from me plus everyone else in this city?!?!?! Don't think so!!

I just moved from Westlake that has the same % in taxes and the 11 years my daughters have gone to their schools I never remember paying that much in 5yrs for classes..

My opionion is they need to get rid of the teachers union, put a cap on teachers pay...

Student.. You might want to watch Waiting for Superman and open your eyes to a failing school system.. Regardless if we get an excellent on our state report card
Gixxer

Westlake, OH

#4 Sep 29, 2010
The Teacher union says, "They understand the difficulty of asking for a tax increase in these economic times" but we know they really don't care; the Teacher union will attack our students until they get their money.
Tax Payer Alumni Parent

North Olmsted, OH

#5 Sep 29, 2010
Tax Payer wrote:
Sorry Student, but until the teachers union makes cut I'm still voting no.
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If you live in Westlake why do you care what North Olmsted teachers are doing?
Motheristhinking NO

Erie, PA

#6 Sep 29, 2010
If you read.. We just moved from Westlake to N. Olmsted
NOHS graduate

Sandusky, OH

#7 Sep 29, 2010
they did put a cap on teachers pay.
maybe you should get your facts straight.
Also your only hurting yourself by not voting for this levy.
Try selling your house after it fails. You wont, unless you want to take a big loss. Way more then the $100 or so dollars your not willing to spend on the education of the future.
In the long run your hurting yourself and your children.
alumni

Sandusky, OH

#8 Sep 29, 2010
Gixxer wrote:
The Teacher union says, "They understand the difficulty of asking for a tax increase in these economic times" but we know they really don't care; the Teacher union will attack our students until they get their money.
The only one "attacking" the students would be the voters who are voting no. Can you even imagine going to a school without extra-curriculars? No sports, AP classes, no dances. These are the reason children come to school.
Truth is, the whole city of north olmsted with suffer. Kids will skip school and ultimately it will lead to more crime and less kids graduating.

Dont point your fingers at the teachers. Ohio is one of the only three states in this country to fund schools by property taxes. It was ruled unconstitutional over 14 years ago. Instead, point your fingers at the Ohio government. They are the ones to blame.

Since: Dec 09

Kaohsiung, Taiwan

#9 Sep 29, 2010
Teachers unions continue their hostage mentality to threaten the 'future' of a community if they don't get what they want. N Olmsted residents are wise to the game, stay the course, and show the teachers that N.O. means no.
Teacher in North Olmsted

North Olmsted, OH

#10 Sep 29, 2010
People, get the facts straight before you post your comments in public! The teachers' union HAS taken wage freezes FOUR times already, made other concessions, dealt with ever-expanding class sizes, and shrinking budgets. We are dipping into our own pocketbooks to buy more and more supplies we need to do our jobs effectively. Where else in the corporate world are you asked to provide your own supplies to do your job?
Our kindergarten classes have 35 kids in them! That's NOT what's best for children. We are told to accommodate for each child's learning styles, abilities, and weaknesses. Can a doctor treat 35 patients with all different ailments ALL AT ONCE with the hope of getting them all well without the tools they need? Of course not!
The children are the ones to lose in this situation. A LOT of people want what's best for children. Somebody felt the same way when you were in school and they paid their share of taxes. Now it's time for you to tighten the proverbial belt and do your share.
Gixxer

Westlake, OH

#11 Sep 30, 2010
Why should I take a permanent pay cut so the union Teachers can get a raise?
Gixxer

Westlake, OH

#12 Sep 30, 2010
Teacher in North Olmsted wrote:
People, get the facts straight before you post your comments in public! The teachers' union HAS taken wage freezes FOUR times already, made other concessions, dealt with ever-expanding class sizes, and shrinking budgets. We are dipping into our own pocketbooks to buy more and more supplies we need to do our jobs effectively. Where else in the corporate world are you asked to provide your own supplies to do your job?
Our kindergarten classes have 35 kids in them! That's NOT what's best for children. We are told to accommodate for each child's learning styles, abilities, and weaknesses. Can a doctor treat 35 patients with all different ailments ALL AT ONCE with the hope of getting them all well without the tools they need? Of course not!
The children are the ones to lose in this situation. A LOT of people want what's best for children. Somebody felt the same way when you were in school and they paid their share of taxes. Now it's time for you to tighten the proverbial belt and do your share.
Union Teachers need to take a BIG PAY CUT and REDUCED BENEFITS before we vote to CUT OUR INCOME for them.

All North Olmsted City union workers took pay cuts to balance the city budget but the union Teachers refused and agreed to cut services to their students for MONEY! The Teacher union will do anything to prevent a pay cut for themselves including more cuts to student education. And I see that the Teacher union is now demanding that the State force US to pay more into their lucrative retirement fund. This has got to stop.

The Teacher union told us to vote for taxin' Ted Strickland at the last Governor election because he promised to 'fix' the State public school funding 'problem'. Ted got elected and now says that we should vote for him because he fixed the public school funding problem. We can now vote NO on EVERY public school tax levy since Ted has fixed the problem.

We all know what happens when we give Teacher unions more of our money - they will only ask for more and we get nothing in return.

We can cut the average union Teacher salary by 20% and not suffer any decrease in education quality. Union Teachers are ALL highly over-paid.

VOTE NO on the Teacher union tax hike in November.
SAD

North Olmsted, OH

#13 Sep 30, 2010
Teacher in North Olmsted wrote:
People, get the facts straight before you post your comments in public! The teachers' union HAS taken wage freezes FOUR times already, made other concessions, dealt with ever-expanding class sizes, and shrinking budgets. We are dipping into our own pocketbooks to buy more and more supplies we need to do our jobs effectively. Where else in the corporate world are you asked to provide your own supplies to do your job?
Our kindergarten classes have 35 kids in them! That's NOT what's best for children. We are told to accommodate for each child's learning styles, abilities, and weaknesses. Can a doctor treat 35 patients with all different ailments ALL AT ONCE with the hope of getting them all well without the tools they need? Of course not!
The children are the ones to lose in this situation. A LOT of people want what's best for children. Somebody felt the same way when you were in school and they paid their share of taxes. Now it's time for you to tighten the proverbial belt and do your share.
You want us to tighten the proverbial belt and do our share? I think we already are, do really think you are the only ones that have taken pay freezes? We have either taken pay freezes, decrease in pay or loss of jobs, oh wait and crappy health care (unlike your primo health care). All of this with paying more school fees. Do you really want to start talking doing are fair share? You are asking a community to give more when the proverty level in this city is rising, case in point over half of our students qualify for free or reduced lunches. The real problem is the funding for our schools, but we all have to come together and get this solved. When you say its for the kids then actually mean it. Sorry, but parents do have an attitude that the teachers are prima donnas, just one example the school system has the PASS system, but not all of the teachers use it because hey it's not in the contract. Talk about the real world, if our employers tell us to use a system we don't have a choice. We also work 12 mos. out of the year and yes majority of us work more then 40 hours a week and take work home and we don't make over 70,000 a year. Oh yea and if we are doig a crappy job we can get fired. Stop hiding behind the **** union and do what is right. For all of those teachers that are doing a great job and really have the kids in mind keep of the great work. You are out there and my thanks to you.
P.S. I voted for the levy twice, but not this time.
JUST ASKING

United States

#14 Sep 30, 2010
I fail to understand. Every year it is the same thing with these schools. The government needs to look into the mismanagement of school money by these people. They should have a posting on how much each and every person who works for the school board and everyone else involved in the schools money. How much they are paid and their perks. It's like the administrators blow this money willy nilly. Where does the money go they have???? Just askin!
Petro

Independence, OH

#15 Sep 30, 2010
Dont count it on passing. People in the Parma school district failed theirs 3X in a row. The residence here just don't care about a child's education.
We need to institute a local income tax so the older segment of our "wonderful" population will not see any increases.
sad

Akron, OH

#16 Sep 30, 2010
Petro wrote:
Dont count it on passing. People in the Parma school district failed theirs 3X in a row. The residence here just don't care about a child's education.
We need to institute a local income tax so the older segment of our "wonderful" population will not see any increases.
We do care about our kids; however, things need to change. This levy is only a stop gap, it does not solve the problem they will be coming back to us in 3 years (if that) and asking for more. This has been going on for years, we all (citizens, teachers, administration and yes the union)have to work together. Asking for a levy is not it.
NO Tax Payer

Westlake, OH

#17 Sep 30, 2010
Check it out. It might be from 2008/2009, but it will give you a clear indication on how much the school district employees make. Also, consider that we the tax payers also pay for their benefits such as retirement and others...
http://ohiocasb.org/about/school-salary-datab...
Motheristhinking NO

Erie, PA

#18 Sep 30, 2010
I thought taxing property to fund schools was declared unconstitutional in Ohio, yet the "representatives" (I use this term loosely) haven't done anything to change it. Enough already. People are out of work, losing their homes - NO MORE TAXES. Learn to live in your budget, and make cuts like the rest of us have to do. Just for giggles -TRY TO GET A COPY OF THE SCHOOL BUDGET. There is one high school, one middle school and 7 (?) elementary schools and the superintendent makes more than the mayor or Cleveland. Plus medical and perks. Does that make sense to you?

Since: May 10

Cleveland, OH

#19 Sep 30, 2010
NO Tax Payer wrote:
Check it out. It might be from 2008/2009, but it will give you a clear indication on how much the school district employees make. Also, consider that we the tax payers also pay for their benefits such as retirement and others...
http://ohiocasb.org/about/school-salary-datab...
Right! Plus, most of the staff only work nine months out of the year. You gotta love those unions.
Teachers do NOT have a ra

Lakewood, OH

#20 Sep 30, 2010
Did you check out the salaries posted by NO Tax Payer? After 15 years the teachers are making 79K? After 20, they're making 85K? And they have, ummm, what's it called-- a PENSION. SUCK IT UP, teachers.

Teachers are constantly complaining about what a raw deal they get. I've been working in my arena for nearly 20 years and I have a well respected position. But I don't have a gauranteed 85K per year. And I sure don't have a pension. Stop whining and enjoy your 85,000 job and your summers off. Oh, and take a bigger pay cut, just like everyone in the private sector is doing.

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