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There are 32 comments on the 10TV WBNS story from Oct 28, 2010, titled Students Wear T-Shirts In Support Of Classmate | Ohio News Network (ONN). In it, 10TV WBNS reports that:

When high school junior Allen Allan saw two girls punching each other in his school hallway, he grabbed his cell phone and started recording.

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Painesville, OH

#23 Oct 29, 2010
No BS Politics wrote:
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Public schools are not keeping up with private, charter and home schooled students. They have better test scores, higher graduation rates and do better in state tests.
The nature of political correctness should not be the responsibility of the school. I will inform my children about diversity and inform them about gays and lesbians myself without the spin the school offers.
If the teachers union would concentrate on improved test scores and higher graduation rates I could agree to tenure and some pay raises. They are a typical self serving union, taking more than they receive.
When charter and private schools have to teach everyone of every academic ability or disability, then I'll listen to you. When every charter school, private school, and homeschooler have to take the same state tests as public schools, then I'll listen to you. When all the parents of public school children are as interested and involved in their child's education as most charter, private, and home school parents are, then I'll listen. But in the meantime, you're comparing apples to oranges and that's not a fair playing field. Also, I'd like you to back up all those claims you made with the research evidence from an unbiased source that proves it. Until then I'll just consider you another typical union hater who doesn't know that teachers DO concentrate on improving scores. Believe me that's with them everyday. Bet you didn't know their names are on the tests and scores and that is public record. Sadly not every parent educates their child in tolerance and diversity. When the schools have to do it they're condemned by people like you. But when something happens, such as the recent suicides from bullying, we all blame the schools. You can't have it both ways. Unless you are a teacher in a public school, you don't have a clue what it's like educating students who cover a wide range of society both academically and emotionally. Many parents have abdicated their responsibilities and the schools are expected to fill in for them. I speak from 35 years in the classroom. I'm witness to the dedication of most teachers. So don't be so quick to dismiss teachers and public schools. You haven't walked the walk.

Grove City, OH

#24 Oct 29, 2010
He did not miss basketball tryouts, tryouts cannot begin for Boys until Friday Nov. 5th, that is a state wide rule!
cb columbus oh

Columbus, OH

#25 Oct 29, 2010
Cool, let's video tape the "cat fight" and post it on YouTube cause that's what we like to do these days, and not just teens. He made the wrong choice and deserves punishment just like the girls who where fighting. Instead of posting it on-line he should have handed the video to school principal or some type of authoritiy. And just another thought...did he once think of stopping the fight while he was filming it???

Columbus, OH

#26 Oct 29, 2010
The principal is just mad and embarassed that someone dropped the ball at his school. There should have been adults supervising the students. I don't think it is the boy or any students job to police their peers. The punishment does not fit the crime because there is no crime.
Outsider looking in

Reynoldsburg, OH

#27 Oct 29, 2010
The only thing this kid has brought to light by putting this on Facebook is the fact that Columbus Public Schools has major problems, there should always be a monitor in the halls, and if there was, this would not have happened. Suspend the Principal for 10 days without pay and maybe he'll get his job done right. The girls should both be suspended, if not even expelled for the year, send a strong message in the right direction.

United States

#28 Oct 29, 2010
GetItRight wrote:
<quoted text>First of all you're obviously brainwashed. I have attended many public school concerts that included Christmas carols. Public schools say the Pledge of Allegiance every day. Teachers and their unions have brought many improvements to education. The testing results show more improvement, not going down as you claim. Fighting IS a real discipline issue. How can you say it's not? The reason for diversity days is because of the bullying the gays have to withstand and the schools are trying to teach tolerance. Some students only hear the hate in their own homes, so the schools have to counter it with their own programs. Where are you getting your information? You need to get the real facts before you get on a public forum and spout off.
My children attend public school, not Columbus Public, but public nonetheless. None of the three have ever said the Pledge of Allegiance in school. The majority of the schools with the improving scores that you speak of are not the typical public schools. As we all know, New Albany, Dublin, Upper Arlington etc. are never going to be recognized as the typical public schools. Columbus public, Whitehall, Reynoldsburg and I could go and on need less focus on the teaching union and more focus on removing the real problematic children/teens. Why was it up to this boy to stop the fight? You'd be hard pressed to find a teen willing to step into the middle of a physical fight in school. After all, we are in the day of gangs and savage beatings. This boy is a scape goat for this schools lack of attention to what the real problems are.

Cleveland, OH

#29 Oct 29, 2010
The girls that were fighting also got 10 day suspensions and recommendations for expulsion. I heard that one of the girls complained(I'm not entirely sure if this is true, though) and wanted the video removed. Honestly, if you don't want videos of you fighting on facebook then don't fight.

For those of you saying that Allen should have stopped the fight, I'm sure you never thought that you should intervene when you saw girls fighting in high school. These girls were slamming each other against lockers, many people were scared and wanted to get out of the way so that they didn't get hurt. It's not a student's job to break up fights between girls he doesn't know. If you saw two girls fighting while you were in a mall or something similar, would you break it up? I doubt it, especially if said girls were viciously slamming each other against things. Also, the fight was over in a matter of seconds. School officials intervened quickly and students that were watching were hardly late to class.

Also, the current principal of North Olmsted high school has gotten a bad reputation for administering unjust punishments in the past. I personally know a young man that got suspended(he was going to be expelled but they dropped that because if he took it to court, he would have won. Sadly, he didn't have the time to take it to court. He wouldn't have been able to graduate with his class if he did.) because of supposed acts of "harassment" that he verily claims he never committed. He lost potential scholarships and his grades suffered greatly. He is now going to a community college instead of the college he wanted to go to.

What I find even more ridiculous is the people getting suspended for refusing to hand over their shirts(Which were thrown away by the principal. Is it just me or does this seem equivalent to stealing? Students were forced to give him their shirts or face suspension). The principle went as far as to insult the families of the people wearing the shirts.(He asked if my parents knew about this situation and when I said that my mother helped me make the shirt he insulted her and me. This also happened to a couple of my friends.) It's utterly ridiculous. The majority of the students going to the school agree that how the principal is handling this problem is only making it worse. He claims that the shirts disrupt class and yet he pulls students out of class so that he may lecture on them on his opinion as to why he considers wearing the shirts to be wrong. You shouldn't lose your rights of free speech, free expression, and a peaceful protest while at school.

Mansfield, OH

#30 Oct 30, 2010
So, the administration was more worried about how the school was portrayed than about the well being of the students. Sounds about right. Who are the adults here? The fight happened. What's more, if it is a public school, is a matter of PUBLIC RECORD. Posting it to the internet was just making it available to the public.It seems to me that the school is trying to divert attention from the real problem. Violence in their halls. It looks like it has on them. The fight happened on their watch. What kind of an example are they setting by not being accountable?

Blacklick, OH

#31 Oct 30, 2010
The punishment(s) seem a bit heavy-handed to me. What has happened to freedom of speech. Granted that they are still in school, but isn't school supposed to be where they are taught about such values and freedoms that many have fought and died for. What I read sounds more like something I would hear from Communist China, than from the US.

Columbus, OH

#32 Oct 30, 2010
The school system already has a bad reputation. This video posting didn't further the bad rep. It just showed the lack of security in the school from bullies.

Columbus, OH

#33 Oct 30, 2010
Wow! I am usually pretty conservative in my opinions, but you must be joking. I know some schools have a rule against WATCHING a fight. So, I guess you can get in trouble for that...but for posting it? I think the kid has the right to post whatever he wants. Maybe the school SHOULD be embarrassed by their inability to properly supervise kids. Leave the boy alone.
Yaiyo 1962

Tampa, FL

#35 Nov 6, 2010
The school is worried more about their reputation than his eduation and the student's freedom of speech. Did they even address the issue of the fight. Sounds to me like the district officals need to grow up.

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