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School Sports Running Out Of Time In N. Olmsted

There are 39 comments on the WJW Fox 8 Cleveland story from May 11, 2010, titled School Sports Running Out Of Time In N. Olmsted. In it, WJW Fox 8 Cleveland reports that:

Voters may get another chance to vote on a 7.9 mill levy after an almost identical measure failed to pass last week.

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“Perfect? NO. Forgiven? YES!”

Since: Jan 10

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#21 May 12, 2010
Concerned About the Kids wrote:
For those of you so concerned about the teachers' salaries, if you go the North Olmsted City School website, you will see that they agreed to payroll concessions, as did the administrators. And as a parent of children in the schools, I do pay for rental on instruments for band/orchestra and some of the clubs already do require "pay as you play" and my children participate in those. However, I'm more concerned about children losing out on all of the other clubs and activites, as well as the transportation to get them to and from school...when you're just under 2 miles from school.
Then get your band boosters going and have them pay for the instruments and uniforms. Sorry, 2 miles isn't that far for a kid to walk.

“Perfect? NO. Forgiven? YES!”

Since: Jan 10

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#22 May 12, 2010
Gixxer wrote:
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They temporarily agreed not to take a raise for a year or two. That is NOT a concession that means anything. They want us to take a permanent PAY CUT, higher taxes, when they will never, ever take a pay cut that lasts more than one year. The North Olmsted Teachers Union is raping our city and attacking student education opportunity for MONEY!
We must continue to vore NO on every school levy or the situation will never improve.
The public sector unions are killing our country and the North Olmsted Teacher union is part of it.
You are correct. My mother in law lives in NO. Her taxes are out of control. And for what services?
sick of it

North Olmsted, OH

#24 May 12, 2010
For all of you that think teachers are worth every penny, think again. I will agree there a a few that deserve their pay and I personally know they are not even the highest paid teachers! Do you realize that on top of the salaries they get paid extra for any meetings (IEP, 504 and anythin outside of class hours? NO has a online grading system, but if the teachers don't want to use it they don't have too! I am sorr, but if my employer gets a new system I don't have a choice I need to learn it and use it. I also don't get paid overtime I get a salary and if that means working 60 hours a a week to get the job done, then so be it. Also, the extra positions (ie. coaches)need to first be offered to the teachers if they decline only then can they get "outside" help. That was put into place years ago when teachers really did not make much money and that was a way to supplement their income. No need for that any more. Take all of that into consideration when your driving to work June 15th and the teachers are still in bed sleeping and making plans for their summer off! Don't get me wrong I believe teachers do a great job, but their union really needs to go. They need to do a reality check. Voting no is not the answer, it is not fair to the kids, at least the board should consider a emergecny funding for varsity fall sports, then hope the levy passes and things are put back into place at least for the next three years.
To MySmileyFace

Cleveland, OH

#25 May 12, 2010
MySmileyFace wrote:
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What are you talking about. The landlord pays the taxes. He includes that in the rent, not an additional payment from the renter. But sorry, if you rent, you don't deserve a say in the tax levies. That belongs to the home OWNER.
Maybe re-read the post. That's what it says.
North Olmsted Resident

Cleveland, OH

#26 May 12, 2010
No one wants to raise their taxes, but the comments posted here have nothing to do with educating children and everything to do with what you don't have. You will continue to have less when your hate and anger overtake our responsibility to educate the next generation of your doctors and nurses, your firefighters and police, your attorneys and tradespeople, and on and on. If you want real change, step up and stop hiding behind "gix" and "just sick of it" and get out and help with a solution. There are many good people in North Olmsted - with and without children in school - who will do the right thing and support education and their community while working to correct the things they don't like.
Gixxer

Columbus, OH

#27 May 12, 2010
North Olmsted Resident wrote:
No one wants to raise their taxes, but the comments posted here have nothing to do with educating children and everything to do with what you don't have. You will continue to have less when your hate and anger overtake our responsibility to educate the next generation of your doctors and nurses, your firefighters and police, your attorneys and tradespeople, and on and on. If you want real change, step up and stop hiding behind "gix" and "just sick of it" and get out and help with a solution. There are many good people in North Olmsted - with and without children in school - who will do the right thing and support education and their community while working to correct the things they don't like.
Union activists ALWAYS preface their propaganda with “No wants to raise their taxes”, then they try to pull at your heartstrings to convince you to take a permanent pay cut out of a false sense of duty when the purpose is MONEY so union Teachers can get permanent salary and benefit increases every year. This is standard union procedure.

It is absolutely despicable that the North Olmsted Union Teachers have agreed to keep their taxpayer unaffordable salaries and taxpayer unaffordable obscene benefits at the expense of their students. Teacher labor unions produce nothing, they exists purely to take the most amount of taxpayer money as possible for the least amount of work or performance accountability. The North Olmsted Teacher Union is directly responsible for the student education and services cuts.

Beware of union teachers posting on this forum trying to make you feel guilty for not voting to cut your paycheck permanently with a property tax hike…..while they ‘sacrifice’ by temporarily forgoing a raise.
Luckymom1989

Cleveland, OH

#28 May 13, 2010
Excellent move, North Olmsted. Don't forget to eliminate busing and after school care, too. Sometimes a little friendly persuasion will work wonders, and if it doesn't, keep cutting.
sick of it

North Olmsted, OH

#29 May 13, 2010
Luckymom1989 wrote:
Excellent move, North Olmsted. Don't forget to eliminate busing and after school care, too. Sometimes a little friendly persuasion will work wonders, and if it doesn't, keep cutting.
You must not live in North Olmsted or you have not been to the board meetings. I do live in NO and have been to almost all of the meetings. They are cutting everything not just sports. There will be no busing, no before or after school programs, choir, band and all schools close at 4:00. That means things like school plays can only be performed during school so parents that work will not see their children. Everything is gone except the educaional programs. I am not saying vote for the levy, I do not like that the board is holding the kids hostage. They could pass emergency funding for fall varsity programs, so the kids the kids that worked so hard have a chance at possible college scholarships. The board does not want to do this because, in their own words "It's not fair to the other students". Whats no fair is if you are on free and reduce lunchs, which is comeing up on half of the NO students, they do not have to pay school fees. I am up at school a lot and their are very deserving kids and I have no problem helping and supporting them. However, it is sick watching some of these certain kids with their Iphone, Xbox and getting dropped off in their Navigators (while daddy, uncle and cousin go to their quiky mart)receive free lunches and no pay school fees. Keep in mind their families do not pay their fair share of taxes because they have about 3 - 4 familie living in 1 house and about 20 kids in the school. That is another reason the rest of us are sick of paying more taxes. FYI there is another board meeting tonight 10/13/10 at 7:00 atin the Middle School, which by th way is a pit.

Since: Dec 09

United States

#30 May 13, 2010
Lee wrote:
The way Ohio funds its schools needs to change. This problem is not just in North Olmsted. Too bad the ones who lose are the kids.It's not just sports and arts that will go. The buildings will close early meaning No open houses, family nights, no dances for middle school and many other activities.Maybe we think it's not a big deal but it is to the students.Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for our community.
Ah yes, if you remember, this is the platform that Strickland ran on for governor, he was going to fix the school funding. I guess if reelected, he'll get started on that
Gixxer

Columbus, OH

#31 May 13, 2010
pistoff wrote:
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Ah yes, if you remember, this is the platform that Strickland ran on for governor, he was going to fix the school funding. I guess if reelected, he'll get started on that
Strickland cannot follow his Teacher Union lobby instructions to 'fix school funding' because the heavily funded Teacher Union lobby wants a huge tax on all working families to replace property tax increases every three years. The public school Teacher lobby is demanding a permanent tax which rises yearly with the cost of living index....of course it will never go down. They want this yearly tax to automatically INCREASE every year, WITHOUT A VOTE, to pay for their exorbitant union contracts.

Think about, yearly tax hikes for public school union teachers. This is why taxin' Ted Strickland could not implement this plan his first term - it would be political suicide. He is saving it for his lame duck term. Ted already raised our Ohio Income taxes so hopefully voters will remember this in November.
Gixxer

Columbus, OH

#32 May 13, 2010
sick of it wrote:
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You must not live in North Olmsted or you have not been to the board meetings. I do live in NO and have been to almost all of the meetings. They are cutting everything not just sports. There will be no busing, no before or after school programs, choir, band and all schools close at 4:00. That means things like school plays can only be performed during school so parents that work will not see their children. Everything is gone except the educaional programs. I am not saying vote for the levy, I do not like that the board is holding the kids hostage. They could pass emergency funding for fall varsity programs, so the kids the kids that worked so hard have a chance at possible college scholarships. The board does not want to do this because, in their own words "It's not fair to the other students". Whats no fair is if you are on free and reduce lunchs, which is comeing up on half of the NO students, they do not have to pay school fees. I am up at school a lot and their are very deserving kids and I have no problem helping and supporting them. However, it is sick watching some of these certain kids with their Iphone, Xbox and getting dropped off in their Navigators (while daddy, uncle and cousin go to their quiky mart)receive free lunches and no pay school fees. Keep in mind their families do not pay their fair share of taxes because they have about 3 - 4 familie living in 1 house and about 20 kids in the school. That is another reason the rest of us are sick of paying more taxes. FYI there is another board meeting tonight 10/13/10 at 7:00 atin the Middle School, which by th way is a pit.
The North Olmsted Teacher Union is directly responsible for the cuts to student education and service programs. The union Teachers are happily standing by while students and parents bear the real cost of the Teacher Union contract. Our community cannot afford the Union Contract, the community has voted, the community has spoken.

The budget must be balanced by cutting the Teacher Union contract, period. Union Teachers' first priority is their union contract our first priority is to demand action against the Teacher union.

Vote NO on every levy ballot or their will NEVER be change for the better.
sick of it

North Olmsted, OH

#33 May 13, 2010
Gixxer wrote:
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The North Olmsted Teacher Union is directly responsible for the cuts to student education and service programs. The union Teachers are happily standing by while students and parents bear the real cost of the Teacher Union contract. Our community cannot afford the Union Contract, the community has voted, the community has spoken.
The budget must be balanced by cutting the Teacher Union contract, period. Union Teachers' first priority is their union contract our first priority is to demand action against the Teacher union.
Vote NO on every levy ballot or their will NEVER be change for the better.
I agree. A pay freeze is not a cut. Why is it that the students must pay. If they really cared there would have been more concessions (ie. give up the extra pay for after class room hour student meetings). Why is it that the safety forces of NO took a pay cut too keep jobs? It's grea that some of the teachers have their Masters (as brought up in board meetings), their are others in NO who have even higher education and either lost their jobs or took pay cuts in order to save others. My husband and I combined don't make what some of these teachers make and we work longer hours, have no health care and don't get our summers off. And yet we still don't qualify for aid and even if we did we would not take it because it is our responsiblity not the govt. I am just tired of paying for the ones ripping off the system. We want eveyone to come together and give equally.
sick of it

North Olmsted, OH

#34 May 13, 2010
Oh and did anyone know that this summer the school board received a grant to feed every child in N.O. breakfast and lunch. It will be administered through the school and distributed at the Rec. According to the board it will not cost the tax payers, but lets be honest when did a govt. program not in some way cost the tax payer. The reason they are doing this in their words "It's the right thing to do". Maybe but why should our schools feel reasponsible for feeding our children. Their time should be spent on figuring out how to fix the district and their money woes.
Gixxer

Columbus, OH

#35 May 13, 2010
sick of it wrote:
Oh and did anyone know that this summer the school board received a grant to feed every child in N.O. breakfast and lunch. It will be administered through the school and distributed at the Rec. According to the board it will not cost the tax payers, but lets be honest when did a govt. program not in some way cost the tax payer. The reason they are doing this in their words "It's the right thing to do". Maybe but why should our schools feel reasponsible for feeding our children. Their time should be spent on figuring out how to fix the district and their money woes.
It's as if the Teacher Union runs out School District. I have seen this same scenario work for almost 30 years here.

The money Congress borrowed from China is being used for the new food program...out children will be paying off that debt.

The absolute ONLY way to change this is to vote NO on EVERY levy until the State is forced to take over school finances to balance the budget.....then the fur will really fly sinc the union will be at risk for cuts.

Voting NO is the ONLY way, only our votes count. Words and e-mails result in nothing being done. Ohio Teachers Unions have been spending huge amounts of money on buying Democrats in the State Legislature to 'fix' the school funding issue. By 'fix' they mean they want a new tax that AUTOMATICALLY rises every year, without a vote of the taxpayers and without lowering our present propety taxes, to fund their yearly increases is wages, salaries and benefits.

Please, only NO votes can stop them.
sick of it

North Olmsted, OH

#36 May 13, 2010
Gixxer wrote:
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It's as if the Teacher Union runs out School District. I have seen this same scenario work for almost 30 years here.
The money Congress borrowed from China is being used for the new food program...out children will be paying off that debt.
The absolute ONLY way to change this is to vote NO on EVERY levy until the State is forced to take over school finances to balance the budget.....then the fur will really fly sinc the union will be at risk for cuts.
Voting NO is the ONLY way, only our votes count. Words and e-mails result in nothing being done. Ohio Teachers Unions have been spending huge amounts of money on buying Democrats in the State Legislature to 'fix' the school funding issue. By 'fix' they mean they want a new tax that AUTOMATICALLY rises every year, without a vote of the taxpayers and without lowering our present propety taxes, to fund their yearly increases is wages, salaries and benefits.
Please, only NO votes can stop them.
Unfortunately it's the kids now that will suffer, collateral damage? They have the upper hand and they know it.
NO resident - parent of 4

Bedford, OH

#37 May 14, 2010
BizzyBee wrote:
I say if a child wants to play sports, or join the band or what ever organization requires money or uniforms and or equipment, LET the PARENTS foot the bill.
Taxpayers are so drained. Besides, the waste in all the schools is disgusting.There are so many drawing salaries that could be eliminated.
First they take away the school busses, then they take away something else, until it passes.
We have asked time and time again at this meetings for a pay to play option - NO says BOE - Not even an option - Levy passes or NO extras....PERIOD. NICE HUH?- feel like a threat to you??? does to me.

“YOUR STUPIDITY”

Since: Apr 10

IS APPALLING!

#38 May 14, 2010
Parents need to band together and put up a BIG protest. They want the money for their pet projects and banquets and expense accounts. Waste abound!
It is everywhere.They figure the tighter the noose the more response to vote YES.
a_student_at_N_O

Strongsville, OH

#39 May 27, 2010
The teachers salaries are actually small when looking at the workload. They deserve more money and their healthcare and even more. What people often fail to understand is the workload that a teacher has to take upon. Teachers have to work about 7-9 hours a day, which includes waking up in the morning to get the class ready. Throughout the day, a teacher is subjected to disrispedctfull students throughout the day. They have spent years in school getting their Assosciates, Bachelor's, Masters's etc, and for all this time spend in school their salarry is actually LOW. Some would say that teachers shouldn't be paid during the summer, well, during the school year, a teacher has to come up with worksheets, and than grade them during their time after school, often during the weekends. Now all of you ignorants, open your eyes and be supportive to your comunity like others have been to you.

“Perfect? NO. Forgiven? YES!”

Since: Jan 10

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#40 May 27, 2010
a_student_at_N_O wrote:
The teachers salaries are actually small when looking at the workload. They deserve more money and their healthcare and even more. What people often fail to understand is the workload that a teacher has to take upon. Teachers have to work about 7-9 hours a day, which includes waking up in the morning to get the class ready. Throughout the day, a teacher is subjected to disrispedctfull students throughout the day. They have spent years in school getting their Assosciates, Bachelor's, Masters's etc, and for all this time spend in school their salarry is actually LOW. Some would say that teachers shouldn't be paid during the summer, well, during the school year, a teacher has to come up with worksheets, and than grade them during their time after school, often during the weekends. Now all of you ignorants, open your eyes and be supportive to your comunity like others have been to you.
If you are truly a student then you do have no clue. Even if you aren't you have no clue. You don't pay the taxes so you don't have a say. I work as many hours a day as they do. And it is their own fault if they cannot handle their classes. Maybe you should spend some time in summer school. Your English and spelling skills leave alot to be desired.

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