Good Ole Church Folk

[ummmhmmmm]

I will write what I find to be true knowing it will piss everyone else off. We live in the Bible Belt as they call it. Almost all of our friends and neighbors call themselves Christians. I am not saying that they are anything less, I am just going to point out a character flaw known to all of us in the Mountain State.
IN the Scriptures we read that we are to Keep the Sabbath Holy. Sound Familiar? Well, It wasn't a question, it wasn't a suggestion, It was a Commandment.
Why then have we Christians turned our backs on this commandment?
Why sure we go to Church with the best of them, many of us claim to never miss a Sunday, BUT we also never miss an opportunity to go to the SuperMarket, Gas Station or the nearest dining establishment on the Lords Day.
Have any of you ever wondered how this makes you look to the rest of the world?
Sure this makes it easy and convenient for you BUT, let us not forget that You are simply the REASON why less fortunate people have to work on Sundays.
When you enter a place of business on a Sunday it is YOUR fault that someone else has to work because without making money, businesses would not be open on Sunday.

[Church Bus Driver]

ummmhmmmm wrote:

I will write what I find to be true knowing it will piss everyone else off. We live in the Bible Belt as they call it. Almost all of our friends and neighbors call themselves Christians. I am not saying that they are anything less, I am just going to point out a character flaw known to all of us in the Mountain State.
IN the Scriptures we read that we are to Keep the Sabbath Holy. Sound Familiar? Well, It wasn't a question, it wasn't a suggestion, It was a Commandment.
Why then have we Christians turned our backs on this commandment?
Why sure we go to Church with the best of them, many of us claim to never miss a Sunday, BUT we also never miss an opportunity to go to the SuperMarket, Gas Station or the nearest dining establishment on the Lords Day.
Have any of you ever wondered how this makes you look to the rest of the world?
Sure this makes it easy and convenient for you BUT, let us not forget that You are simply the REASON why less fortunate people have to work on Sundays.
When you enter a place of business on a Sunday it is YOUR fault that someone else has to work because without making money, businesses would not be open on Sunday.

Well I think you need to reed your 10 commandments I dont recall that being 1 of the 10,And Sunday is not the sabbath,it is Saturday which is the 7th day of the week,and Sunday is the first day of the week.

[actually]

Does your Bible tell you that Saturday is the Day of Rest? Does it mention it by name? Also, What day of the Week did Christ Raise from the Dead?

AND YES that is one of the Ten Commandments. You either choose not to read or you cannot read. Maybe you choose to dictate your own rules for yourself. Does your Church conduct its services on Saturday then?

[replyman]

ummmhmmmm wrote:

I will write what I find to be true knowing it will piss everyone else off. We live in the Bible Belt as they call it. Almost all of our friends and neighbors call themselves Christians. I am not saying that they are anything less, I am just going to point out a character flaw known to all of us in the Mountain State.
IN the Scriptures we read that we are to Keep the Sabbath Holy. Sound Familiar? Well, It wasn't a question, it wasn't a suggestion, It was a Commandment.
Why then have we Christians turned our backs on this commandment?
Why sure we go to Church with the best of them, many of us claim to never miss a Sunday, BUT we also never miss an opportunity to go to the SuperMarket, Gas Station or the nearest dining establishment on the Lords Day.
Have any of you ever wondered how this makes you look to the rest of the world?
Sure this makes it easy and convenient for you BUT, let us not forget that You are simply the REASON why less fortunate people have to work on Sundays.
When you enter a place of business on a Sunday it is YOUR fault that someone else has to work because without making money, businesses would not be open on Sunday.

This is one of the most ignorant posts I have ever read. I guess a Christain is not supposed to eat, breath, use the bathroom, talk on the telephone, drive a car,etc..... all of these activities are human nature. This purely the devil talking and I will pray for you!

[actually]

When you said that it wasn't a Commandment, you were calling me a liar. ALSO, you were denying the Scripture....
I will share with you that EXACT Scripture....
Exodus 20:8-11

I will type 8 for you so you can read it for yourself....

"Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy."

without this commandment there are only 9. lol

[haha]

i think more people should spend more time working on their own relationship with God instead of worrying about everyone else's.

[ummmmhmmmm]

so far the consensus is that it doesn't matter that we are forcing other people to have to work on Sabbath so long as we get to eat out? Correct me if I am wrong.....

[what ever]

I don't think that Christians not going to restaurant would keep others from working. With your way of thinking, everyone should knock their main breaker on Sunday so the power plant workers wouldn't have to work. You are just plain silly with this comment.

[wondering]

well if they dont care about breaking the other nine commandments, then why would they care about breaking one more? Some people have to work on Sunday whether they want to or not, I guess you have never went to the hospital on a Sunday have you? Do you go to walmart on Sunday? If you want to go by the Bible then you really arent allowed to cook or clean and actually there are only a certain distance that you were allowed to go.

[actually]

Wondering, you are referring to ancient hebrew law. The law of the Hebrews were manmade and were additions to the ten commandments. Some of them are of great use in the fact that they restate the same commandments in countless other ways. Very good.
However, this is the point I am trying to make. If you have ever worked in the Dining industry, you would know that the rudest people on earth are those coming from their churches on Sunday morning. Adding to this mess, Church Folk do not tend to tip at all. I only hope that means they are full tithe payers.
My point is this, restaurants wouldn't be open on Sunday if there were not a demand for fast food.
If you are going to eat after church on Sunday at least be friendly and be gracious and leave something other than a gospel tract telling that person why they needed to be in church today.
In case you haven't noticed, I am speaking from experience.
My intentions were to raise attention to the way we treat each other here in the coalfields.
I hope I accomplished that. Don't Judge me, just consider it. We in the Restaurant Business would appreciate it.

[will]

The 10 Commandments - God's Revelation in the Old Testament
The 10 Commandments are found in the Bible's Old Testament at Exodus, Chapter 20. They were given directly by God to the people of Israel at Mount Sinai after He had delivered them from slavery in Egypt:

"And God spoke all these words, saying:'I am the LORD your God…

ONE:'You shall have no other gods before Me.'

TWO:'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.'

THREE:'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.'

FOUR:'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.'

FIVE:'Honor your father and your mother.'

SIX:'You shall not murder.'

SEVEN:'You shall not commit adultery.'

EIGHT:'You shall not steal.'

NINE:'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'

TEN:'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'

The 10 Commandments - Christ's Summation in the New Testament
About 1,400 years later, the 10 Commandments were summed up in the New Testament at Matthew 22, when Jesus was confronted by the religious "experts" of the day:

"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it:'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments" (Matthew 22:36-40).

A reflective reading of Christ's teaching reveals that the first four commandments given to the children of Israel are contained in the statement: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind." It continues that the last six commandments are enclosed in the statement: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

NEXT

[will]

10 Commandments: The Origin of God's Law
The 10 Commandments are first recorded in the book of Exodus. They were given by God at Mt. Sinai following the Israelites escape from slavery in Egypt. The 10 Commandments were moral statutes given by God, through Moses, so that the Israelites could enjoy fruitful and holy lives. The Commandments were significant in that they formed the basis of Jewish life, law and faith. Inscribed on stone tablets, the 10 Commandments were initially broken by Moses in anger over the flagrant sins of the Israelites. They were then re-inscribed and kept in the Ark of the Covenant at the command of God. Four of the Commandments deal primarily with man's relationship with God and the other six deal primarily with man's relationship with one another.

10 Commandments: God's Standard of Holiness
The 10 Commandments were also known as the Law. For ancient Israel, breaking the Law was a serious offense. To deviate by any degree from the 10 Commandments was to sin and fall short of God's standard of holiness. Knowing that it was impossible for any human being to perfectly follow the Law, a sacrificial system mediated by the Levitical priesthood was established. Through this system, God permitted ancient Israel to make reparations for the sins they committed. As an example, an appropriate sacrifice would involve the slaughtering of a young lamb that is found to be without any blemish. The sacrifices continued endlessly, as did the sins. This system of blood sacrifice was not meant to be barbaric, but rather, symbolic of the gravity of sin. The annual Jewish holy day of Yom Kippur is a day of atonement that is set aside for the reparation of sins.

Although God gave the 10 Commandments to the Israelites, they do not apply to Jews alone. The 10 Commandments reflect God's standard of holiness for everyone. Since God is the universal authority of moral conduct, all of humanity is subject to His standards. According to the Bible, no one is exempt from God's Law. Some say that the 10 Commandments do not apply to them, since they did not grow up with "religion." However, the scriptures reveal that the requirements of the Law are written on our hearts (Romans 2:25), and thus, our conscience ultimately confirms our guilt. Wait a minute. Since most of us, to some degree, have tried to live good lives, contributing positive things to our families and communities, how can God fault us if we have tried our best? Based on God's standard of holiness, "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). In addition, God is not only concerned with our actions, but also the condition of our hearts. In the New Testament, Jesus referred to the Law when He emphasized that hatred is tantamount to murder and lust is tantamount to adultery. We have all had these thoughts. Indeed, we have all sinned according to God's standard. NEXT

[will]

10 Commandments: Revealing Our Need for a Savior
After reviewing the 10 Commandments, some argue that God is unjust for imposing a standard upon humanity that He knows we can't fulfill. Doesn't it seem awfully cruel for a loving God to condemn man for the evil that is inherently part of the human condition? The response to this perplexing question lies in Jesus Christ. In fact, Jesus came to earth in order to reconcile this dilemma. Like the perfect lambs that were constantly sacrificed for the sins of Israel, Jesus was perfect and without blemish, because he was sinless. Like the lambs, He was sacrificed for the reparation of sins. Unlike the lambs, however, the sacrifice of Jesus Christ redeemed the sins of all humanity for all time. Unlike the lambs, Jesus Christ resurrected from the dead and conquered the power of sin for all humanity for all time. The Bible tells us why Christ had to become a sacrifice: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16).

10 Commandments: Love Without Condemnation
For many, the 10 Commandments are symbols of condemnation that point to our faults and mistakes. Some feel so guilty that they believe God will never accept them. Others simply choose to reject God because His Law is impossible to obey. Ironically, the 10 Commandments were never given by God to condemn humanity, but rather, they were given to convict humanity. The 10 Commandments act as a mirror to "reflect" the condition of our souls. When we examine our life in light of the 10 Commandments, we realize our shortcomings and our need for redemption. Jesus Christ is our redeemer. Therefore, God gave the 10 Commandments not to condemn humanity, but to show us His love for us. For, "While we were still sinners, Christ died for us" (Romans 5:8).

[Very good]

I disagree with you on one thing. I don't believe they were intended to convict humanity. I believe they were given to help humanity.
If you Obey the Commandment given in Matthew 22 you would NEVER break any of the other commandments. If you love your neighbor as yourself how likely are you to commit adultery, steal, or kill?
The commandments do not convict me, they govern me so that I might learn to fully do the Will of the Lord. Of course this is my interpretation. Really our beliefs are not that different.

Question: Do you think it is a sin to go to a place of business on a Sunday??

[PreacherBoy]

i still find it so funny that once again the atheist must school the christians on the word of God.
havnt you people read the bible? do you not know the word of the God you claim to believe in and love?
Jesus spoke on this very thing.
in the book of mark chapter2 vs 23-28
and in chapter 3 vs 1-6
chapter 2
23One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and as his disciples walked along, they began to pick some heads of grain. 24The Pharisees said to him, "Look, why are they doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?"
25He answered, "Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need? 26In the days of Abiathar the high priest, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions."

27Then he said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. 28So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath."

chapter 3
1Another time he went into the synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there. 2Some of them were looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, so they watched him closely to see if he would heal him on the Sabbath. 3Jesus said to the man with the shriveled hand, "Stand up in front of everyone."

4Then Jesus asked them, "Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?" But they remained silent.

5He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, "Stretch out your hand." He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored. 6Then the Pharisees went out and began to plot with the Herodians how they might kill Jesus.

my favorite vs in this lesson is chapter 2 vs 27
Then he said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath."
you christains are not very christlike

[well]

even the Israelites cheated their interpretation of the Commandments. They would build small "rest stops" along the side of the road to say that they didn't travel from from their homes.

[PreacherBoy]

also matthew 12: 1-14 tells basicly the same story but adds this example too at vs 11

11He said to them, "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? 12How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath."

also there is no historical evidence that Moses ever existed
the Ten Commandments were most likely based on the
Egyptian "Book of the Dead"
it was a list that people had to swear to to reach heaven, that went something like this.
"I have not reviled the God.
I have not laid violent hands on an orphan.
I have not done what the God abominates ...
I have not killed; I have not turned anyone over to a killer.
I have not caused anyone's suffering ...
I have not copulated (illicitly); I have not been unchaste.
I have not increased nor diminished the measure, I have not diminished the palm; I have not encroached upon the fields.
I have not added to the balance weights; I have not tempered with the plumb bob of the balance.
I have not taken milk from a child's mouth; I have not driven small cattle from their herbage...
I have not stopped (the flow of) water in its seasons; I have not built a dam against flowing water.
I have not quenched a fire in its time ...
I have not kept cattle away from the God's property.
I have not blocked the God at his processions."

agan something else christainity borrowed from pagan religions.

[sorry]

I believe that the Commandments were in the old testament, so it was originally a Jewish belief not a Christian

[If that is how you feel]

First off, The Language of the shared scripture above seems to be rather NEW. I am guessing you borrowed it from a newer translation. I haven't checked so of that I am not certain.
Second, The Law of Moses was Dictated to Man By the Creator, our Heavenly Father.
Last Time I checked there weren't many instances where God Changed his mind especially concerning a commandment.
The Ten Commandments were not wiped away by Christ, they were added to. When Christ added Love thy Neighbor as thyself. ETC....
AND in WHAT way are we not acting in a Christlike Manner. We are merely discussing the Gospel....
There is Nothing Pagan or anti-christian about that.

[PreacherBoy]

actaully if you wasnt to be smart ass, it woulda been a hebrew belief, they did become Jewish till after Abraham