Stimulus comes to hard-hit Indiana town

There are 20 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Feb 25, 2009, titled Stimulus comes to hard-hit Indiana town. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

With no fanfare and mixed expectations, economic stimulus is coming to the banks of the Eel River, bringing two dozen jobs and the welcome clatter of work to a quiet northern Indiana college town that's been ...

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mike

United States

#1 Feb 26, 2009
if those 26 people are work allready does not count
IMHO

Crest Hill, IL

#3 Feb 26, 2009
here's the thing. i stopped in a walgreens yesterday looking for a few things and i happened to knock a couple of items off a shelf. i turned to see what they were and to pick them up. flyswatters. they were flyswatters.

basically, they were wire hangers with a bit of plastic at the end. i looked to see where they came from.

"made in china."

that, my friends, is the heart of the problem. when a gd mf flyswatter has to be imported from china, we're toast. the article talks about long-term jobs...yeah, how about jobs making household products? what should the profit margin be on a danged flyswatter? and why can't it be made in the united states?

quite frankly, i would pay quite a bit more for a product if i knew i was supporting jobs in america (and that the product wasn't laced with something that could kill me).
moreofthesame

United States

#5 Feb 26, 2009
well - once this project is done, at least these people can sit around looking at the water treatment facility, wondering why inflation is at 20% and their dollars aren't worth anything
Taxpayer

West Chicago, IL

#6 Feb 26, 2009
26 people, from out of the state, working 8 months, is around $180,000 per person annualized. One time shot, no continuous benefit.

If 6400 residens covered the total tab, it would have set them back $600 each.

What factories are going to be willing to set up shop in the US given the increase in health care costs, the ease of unionization, and the increase in taxes that are all on the horizen.
Bruce

Orland Park, IL

#7 Feb 26, 2009
And in the whole article, not one mention of the taxes that will be ripped from us taxpayers to pay for this.

Taxes that will have to pay for this spending, plus pay the interest on the loans to finance the spending.

Which will DESTROY, not create, jobs.
Anne

Chicago, IL

#8 Feb 26, 2009
Boost long term jobs? That's not the intent of this great plan. It is to boost a few jobs for union workers/voters for the election coming up in 2 years.
Patrick

United States

#9 Feb 26, 2009
I hope jobs come to Manchester, Indiana, but whether this project is the answer or not, at least people will have clean drinking water. I'm sure repugs like Piyush Jindal (his real name) would have a gripe with that, but I guess where he comes from clean drinking water really isn't such a big priority. At least Barack Obama's plan is creating jobs for Americans. I wonder where Piyush Jindal would send our jobs.
Mike

United States

#10 Feb 26, 2009
Feel free to join the fun.

http://www.officialchicagoteaparty.com/
Kristah

New York, NY

#11 Feb 26, 2009
Anyone ever read "What's the Matter With Kansas"? It's about the mystery of Kansas and more so, America. It looks at how the pro-life Kansas factory worker who listens to Rush Limbaugh will repeatedly vote for the party that is less likely to protect his safety, less likely to protect his job, and less likely to benefit him economically. What political party do you think the CEO of the washing machine parts factory in North Manchester, Indiana who shipped 200 jobs off to Mexico belongs to? And yet, North Manchester Indiana remains a strongly conservative county. Wake up people.
Just Steve

Plymouth, MN

#12 Feb 26, 2009
Bruce wrote:
And in the whole article, not one mention of the taxes that will be ripped from us taxpayers to pay for this.
Taxes that will have to pay for this spending, plus pay the interest on the loans to finance the spending.
Which will DESTROY, not create, jobs.
So, let me get this straight? You're against building a water treatment plant? You like dirty water? I guess I'm confused.

This is a project that would have always been paid with tax dollars... always. Because of the rising unemployment rates in Indiana, which means a huge decrease in state income taxes, work like this water treatment plant couldn't get done because they didn't have it in the budget. Now, 26 Americans have a job for the better part of a year, building something the community needed. These workers will be spending money. The project will buy concrete from the local concrete manufacturer... jobs there. They will install the mechanisms that work inside the pools, manufactured by Americans. Some of the people working the project will stay in a local motel for months helping other business owners. These same workers will go to restaurants, go shopping, drive a car or truck to and from work.

And in the end this community gets cleaner water.

This is how the economy works, and this is why stuff like this is stimulative.
Montys python

Henderson, NV

#13 Feb 26, 2009
Taxpayer wrote:
26 people, from out of the state, working 8 months, is around $180,000 per person annualized. One time shot, no continuous benefit.
If 6400 residens covered the total tab, it would have set them back $600 each.
What factories are going to be willing to set up shop in the US given the increase in health care costs, the ease of unionization, and the increase in taxes that are all on the horizen.
Wife works in H R for a small co of 45 people.She now has to go back through 2 years of records and notify anyone let go for any reason,including cause,and offer them COBRA with the company picking up 65% of the cost.Owner has now put in a hiring freeze,and told the staff anyone fired or quitting will not be replaced.H R was in the process of hiring two replacements,now they have been told their jobs were eliminated.The stimulus bill just cost two breadwinners their jobs.I suspect that this will be going on throughout the country as small business owners review their costs.The fortune 500 can absorb the COBRA,small businesses can't.
super shrimper porta tx

Matteson, IL

#14 Feb 26, 2009
would of thought, there were ironwrk`s and carpenter`s unemployed in that state,must be a boomers paradise.
Steve

Antioch, IL

#15 Feb 26, 2009
Will you also show fat politicians (Gore) cashing in on Gov't policy?
Patrick

United States

#16 Feb 26, 2009
Montys python wrote:
<quoted text>Wife works in H R for a small co of 45 people.She now has to go back through 2 years of records and notify anyone let go for any reason,including cause,and offer them COBRA with the company picking up 65% of the cost.Owner has now put in a hiring freeze,and told the staff anyone fired or quitting will not be replaced.H R was in the process of hiring two replacements,now they have been told their jobs were eliminated.The stimulus bill just cost two breadwinners their jobs.I suspect that this will be going on throughout the country as small business owners review their costs.The fortune 500 can absorb the COBRA,small businesses can't.
Except, you silly person, that the company does not pay the 65% of COBRA, the federal government does. The days of Bu$h unfunded mandates are over. So tell another story, the one you told is obviously a bald faced lie.
Patrick

United States

#17 Feb 26, 2009
Steve wrote:
Will you also show fat politicians (Gore) cashing in on Gov't policy?
blah blah blah blah blah
God, you people are getting boring. The GOP has become the Stupid Party.
ffej

Darien, IL

#18 Feb 26, 2009
there's indoor plumbing and "clean" water in Indiana?
Montys python

Henderson, NV

#19 Feb 26, 2009
Patrick wrote:
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Except, you silly person, that the company does not pay the 65% of COBRA, the federal government does. The days of Bu$h unfunded mandates are over. So tell another story, the one you told is obviously a bald faced lie.
No reason to call people names,keep the discourse civil and people will not be afraid to come onto these boards.Back to COBRA.CFO says the reimbursement from the Govt through tax credits is a mirage.Money is coming out of the business.
SIG

AOL

#21 Feb 26, 2009
I see Porkulus warfare coming between states soon. How should the Pork Package be distributed? By population? By jobs lost? or by the good ol' boy's club in Washington? I guess we know how the Pork will be distributed.
JLB

Pompano Beach, FL

#22 Feb 26, 2009
26 worker? Open up the Bars,food joints,
Indiana back on the map. Obama's plan
is working...at least for 26 individuals.
MinisterR

Oak Forest, IL

#23 Feb 26, 2009
Just so we are clear. You vote straight ticket or party and align and identify yourself a member of a particular party?

Anyone who does that is a fool. Anyone who has lived in Chicago or in Illinois for any substantial part of their lives and does this deserves everything they will be getting

- Signed 15 year Navy vet, father of 2, husband, small business owner, property owner, minority, never voted straight ticket or party, born and raised in South Shore/Hyde Park
Patrick wrote:
<quoted text>
blah blah blah blah blah
God, you people are getting boring. The GOP has become the Stupid Party.

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