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Clay County rounding up men charged as deadbeat dads

There are 25 comments on the Kansas City Star story from Jun 18, 2010, titled Clay County rounding up men charged as deadbeat dads. In it, Kansas City Star reports that:

Two days before Father's Day, Clay County law enforcement officers went knocking on doors this morning searching for men accused of being deadbeat dads.'An early morning sweep is targeting deadbeat dads as well as other offenders,' Clay County Sheriff Bob Boydston said.Boydston said they expect to serve 64 warrants in an effort to round up persons ...

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DADZRITES

Piscataway, NJ

#1 Jun 19, 2010
Who's a "deadbeat dad"? Someone who can't or won't pay child support? Who can't pay? There are a lot of fathers out there who've lost their jobs thanks to our government meddling into the banking and mortgage businesses, and now the car businesses. Government, with its lapdog press, like to pick on groups of people to create animosity and divisiveness. It's time to show the government for the real "deadbeat" that it is.

According to a 7-year study done by Arizona State University Professor Sanford Braver, Ph.D., which resulted in his book, "Divorced Dads--Shattering the Myths", he found that less than 5% of those that owed child support are true deadbeat dads-the ones with the younger trophy wives and sports cars, who don't want to pay anything. The truth of the matter, is that according to the Federal Gov't. General Accounting Office, Report # GAO/HRD-92-39FS, pg. 19, over 66% of those owing child support can't pay because they are unemployed, underemployed, disabled, dead, and in some cases the mothers don't want support.

Judges order such onerous child support amounts in some cases, along with alimony, daycare, medical expenses, and other expenses, that the father can't survive. He ends up becoming despondent, leaves his job and drops out of sight. He loses all contact with his child(ren) as a result. This is the government's ultimate goal. Breaking up of father-headed families (and then mother-headed ones when there are no more fathers, wherein, the government will come for the children without any resistance). Government doesn't do anything for altruism. They always have a motive behind what they do and the laws they make. It's all about money, power and control.

The reason for this: Because judges are granting high orders and enforcing them stringently because the Federal government pays the states a federal reimbursement incentive funding (42 USC Section 658a) for amounts awarded, collected and enforced. This money goes into the state coffers, no strings attached (42 USC Section 658f). The first things paid out of state treasuries are judicial salaries and pensions and state employee salaries and pensions.
This is a major unconstitutional conflict-of-interest that has been outlawed by the US Supreme Court in Tumey v. Ohio, Ward v. Monroeville, Gibson v. Berryhill and other cases. The Supreme Court held that judges and officials (i.e., child support probation officials) who sit in judgment of cases that they have a financial interest in, are too tempted to abuse their contempt powers to jail unsuspecting litigants-taxpayers to extort/extract more and more monies out of them to increase the amount of funding, and ultimately increase their salaries and pensions.

Anyone arrested on one of these orders is being arrested for not only a fraudulent order, but on a CIVIL matter. The U.S. Courts of Appeals (2nd highest courts in the land) as well as the US Supreme Ct. hold that one can't be arrested on a CIVIL matter because there is no 4th Amendment probable cause that a crime has been committed to issue an arrest warrant. These Courts of Appeals held that child support is nothing more than a common civil, commercial debt, and that it is NOT any "special kind of debt". Again, another fraud perpetrated by government officials. Every other Circuit, including the Third, has followed suit and hold that child support is a common commercial, civil debt.

The child support industry is a total fraud. It is a $5-$10 BILLION per year INDUSTRY that, if eliminated, the monies saved and sent to the children that supposedly need it, would wipe out all child support arrears in the US at one time. All that would be needed to do is send the BILLIONS in the form of a Social Security check or wire transfer, since child support enforcement laws are part of the entire Social Security Act.

Since: Apr 10

Blue Springs, MO

#2 Jun 28, 2010
I am just OUTRAGED by the term "deadbeat dad." Why are there no laws to go after the deadbeat moms? By this, I mean the moms that accept the child support for their own means of support and let somebody else accually support their child (children-ie grandparents...) After being divorced for 2 years, my son recently found out that his daughters child support is going to support the mom and boyfriend. Neither of them desire to get out and work. She drops the child off at her parents house an average of 4 days a week because there is no food in the house, the child needs clothes...while mom and boyfriend spend the child support on pot, pills, and the casino.
My son is in the military, stationed out of state. He would love to have changes made in his divorce decree, but, as you would imagine, he is not made of money. Does anybody know of an attorney that would handle a case pro-bono?
It is high time there are some laws governing deadbeat moms!!!
downtown dweller

Winchester, KY

#3 Jun 29, 2010
clay county is a joke.i lost my job in sept. of 2006 and it has been a fight to get my child support lowered when my income went from 2800 a month to 1000 a month and i am on disability now.judge roberts should be thrown in jail for some of the shit they pull i had to move out of state to keep them from messing with me it is a crazy and expensive deal.

Since: Apr 10

Blue Springs, MO

#4 Jun 30, 2010
downtown dweller wrote:
clay county is a joke.i lost my job in sept. of 2006 and it has been a fight to get my child support lowered when my income went from 2800 a month to 1000 a month and i am on disability now.judge roberts should be thrown in jail for some of the shit they pull i had to move out of state to keep them from messing with me it is a crazy and expensive deal.
I can certainly understand where you are coming from. Life happens! If you can prove justifiable documentation, then it is my belief that the courts should show some mercy. I am very well aware that there are, indeed, deadbeat dads out there.
I think it would be wise that custodial mothers be required to present employeement records, copies of income tax returns (my ex-daughter-in-law recieved FULL rights to claim the child every year. Since she doesn't work, her BOYFRIEND claims the child. All the while, my son is the only support for the child.)
I believe that there are NO rights protecting non-custodial parents. It takes two to make a child...it should be REQUIRED that it takes two to support the child.
CSE would look like a bunch of ignorant fools if they dug deep and started investigations. You have alot of "deadbeat moms" that use the child support payments on themselves. It has always been my understanding that cs is to be used to support the CHILD.
downtown dweller

Winchester, KY

#5 Sep 5, 2010
clay county missouri and child support is a complete pain in the ass.i had a local official where i live now working with me to lower my child support because my disability was final and she still could not do it,clay county called her after they forced her to garnish 30% of my ss check and they wanted to get the power to enforce back from kentucky...it is a mess if missouri got it back then they can garnish 50% of my check legally..that should be against the law,i dont see how judge sherrill roberts can sleep at night.
cindylouwho

Kearney, MO

#6 Apr 18, 2011
Pay your child support...it's easy.
Golden Girl

Orlando, FL

#7 Aug 10, 2011
You all need to grow up already. You birthed these children, why should tax payers have to step in and pay for your kids. All of you parents who don't pay child support should be ashamed of yourself. How do you look at yourself in the mirror everyday is beyond me!!! Not only do you let down your children you let down Americans who pay taxes because you won't get off your lazy asses and strive to pay for your children. Excuse me the dead beat who says the ex spends it on themselves you are really something. Do you know how much it costs to take care of ONE child? You are so clueles you don't deserve to have a warm bed to sleep in at night or three meals a day. I don't care if you are on disability, if you love your children you will find a way. Bottom line. You chose to have children so deal with it! I am going to make sure children across America get what they are due, by posting all of you deadbeats on a website, and printing fliers and picketing our Governments to throw your sorry inhumane bodies into jail where you belong.
LOREN

AOL

#8 Aug 11, 2011
my son is in court ove a child not even his plenty of proof, he let her talk him in signing birth record,that hung him.child was coneaved in dec, are son was in prison got our following march,plus he is sterile, not making this up. he has a they are taking him before jury,the real mother needs to be paying child support,his wife was not real mother,she has had plenty of boy friends,
Taylor Dayne Rules

United States

#9 Aug 11, 2011
I'm sorry that you're a shrivled up hag no one wants to touch anymore, but why should anyone have to bankroll your miserable existence? You're damn right the taxpayer shouldn't be paying for you. The same logic dictates that neither should innocent dads. Liberals always talk about not having the government interfere in people's lives when it comes to killing babies, doing drugs, performing abominations and other such ways to rot our society. However, they are all for butting their noses into family business and arresting innocent dads.
Golden Girl wrote:
You all need to grow up already. You birthed these children, why should tax payers have to step in and pay for your kids. All of you parents who don't pay child support should be ashamed of yourself. How do you look at yourself in the mirror everyday is beyond me!!! Not only do you let down your children you let down Americans who pay taxes because you won't get off your lazy asses and strive to pay for your children. Excuse me the dead beat who says the ex spends it on themselves you are really something. Do you know how much it costs to take care of ONE child? You are so clueles you don't deserve to have a warm bed to sleep in at night or three meals a day. I don't care if you are on disability, if you love your children you will find a way. Bottom line. You chose to have children so deal with it! I am going to make sure children across America get what they are due, by posting all of you deadbeats on a website, and printing fliers and picketing our Governments to throw your sorry inhumane bodies into jail where you belong.
jazzy

Des Moines, IA

#10 Aug 24, 2011
Golden Girl wrote:
You all need to grow up already. You birthed these children, why should tax payers have to step in and pay for your kids. All of you parents who don't pay child support should be ashamed of yourself. How do you look at yourself in the mirror everyday is beyond me!!! Not only do you let down your children you let down Americans who pay taxes because you won't get off your lazy asses and strive to pay for your children. Excuse me the dead beat who says the ex spends it on themselves you are really something. Do you know how much it costs to take care of ONE child? You are so clueles you don't deserve to have a warm bed to sleep in at night or three meals a day. I don't care if you are on disability, if you love your children you will find a way. Bottom line. You chose to have children so deal with it! I am going to make sure children across America get what they are due, by posting all of you deadbeats on a website, and printing fliers and picketing our Governments to throw your sorry inhumane bodies into jail where you belong.
WHY SHOULD YOU LAZY SLUTS GET A FREE RIDE OFF A MAN? IT WAS YOUR CHILD TOO! YOU WANTED SEX SO NOW IT'S ALL THE MAN'S FAULT! AND HE SHOULD PAY FOR YOUR LAZY ASS THE REST OF YOUR LIFE! DON'T THINK SO! I WOULDN'T PAY ONE DIME! NOT A DAMNED PENNY! AMERICA IS BROKE GOING UNDER MOST MEN CAN'T EVEN GET A JOB IN THIS BANKRUPT SOCIALIST COUNTRY! DON'T PAY THEM A DIME! THIS COUNTRY GOES UNDER ALL THESE WELFARE PROGRAMS FOR THESE LAZY, WORTHLESS, GOOD FOR WOMEN WILL BE GONE! LET THEM WORK FOR A CHANGE!
John

Waukee, IA

#11 Nov 1, 2011
cindylouwho wrote:
Pay your child support...it's easy.
shut up you think its that easy. Why don't you pay 850.00
a month.

Beth BC

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#12 Nov 2, 2011
John wrote:
<quoted text> shut up you think its that easy. Why don't you pay 850.00
a month.
Only $850 a month? Must not really be your kid or you haven't had your rates adjusted since the 90's..

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#13 Nov 2, 2011
Friend in Christ wrote:
After being divorced for 2 years, my son recently found out that his daughters child support is going to support the mom and boyfriend. Neither of them desire to get out and work.
There's no law against a single woman having a boyfriend.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#14 Nov 2, 2011
Friend in Christ wrote:
<quoted text>

I believe that there are NO rights protecting non-custodial parents. It takes two to make a child...it should be REQUIRED that it takes two to support the child.
It takes a village to raise a child.

Beth BC

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#15 Nov 2, 2011
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>There's no law against a single woman having a boyfriend.
Or a married one for that matter. In fact no law says she can't have more than one.

Beth BC

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#16 Nov 2, 2011
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>It takes a village to raise a child.
They've been trying this in the ghettos, it's not working out so well..

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#17 Nov 2, 2011
Beth Beefcurtains wrote:
<quoted text>
Or a married one for that matter. In fact no law says she can't have more than one.
Actually, in the bible, adultry is when a married WOMAN has sex outside the marriage, married men are excluded from the adultry definition.

Beth BC

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#18 Nov 2, 2011
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, in the bible, adultry is when a married WOMAN has sex outside the marriage, married men are excluded from the adultry definition.
Thankfully the bible is not law.
real dad

Kansas City, MO

#19 Jan 22, 2013
cindylouwho wrote:
Pay your child support...it's easy.
screw you! you have no idea how it really is! If you were going through it you would see it differently you ignorant idiot
Jon

De Soto, KS

#20 Nov 4, 2013
Let me first say this. I am a father of three girls, one of whom I pay child support. Where is the law when the mother literally keeps me away at all cost. I have tried to get the courts to enforce my visitation rights but yet I'm told I have to go through mediation first, and guess what, she doesn't show up. Are you going to call ME a dead beat dad? I haven't seen my daughter in five years. And the only way my family is allowed to see her is by removing all access to me and leaving pictures of me put away. Are you man haters out there going to tell me she is justified? Most of you would. But yet the state of Missouri still favors the woman. I don't the fathers out there that give someone like me a bad name because they CHOOSE not to pay, but at the same time, women need to be held accountable for their actions as well.

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