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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201878 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#141188 May 14, 2012
pizzahater wrote:
<quoted text>well god obviously
Correct, why don't u tell that to the sunni and shia.
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#141189 May 14, 2012
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/the_bri ... The ‘bribe’ to silence Wright,,,,,,,,,I'm sure there is even more we don't know about!
150000 dollar bribe to keep rev wrong quiet. lol..Chicago politics..
Bruno

Redondo Beach, CA

#141190 May 14, 2012
Bill Of Rights wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah,you moron and I'm sure he is very proud of the things you post! LOL,How about you try for once to actually follow what your savior taught! As it is you're just another faux Christian spouting hatred and your usual ignorance! Tell us all oh great wise one,What did Jesus say about homosexuality? I'll tell you,NOTHING, so I guess it just wasn't that important to him,was it? I mean he did hang around with a bunch of burly good looking guys now didn't he? Hmmmmm.....!!!! What he did say was to judge NOT lest YE be judged and Let he who is without sin cast the first stone! Now STFU you phony,the adults are talking here! Now go worship at the church of the flying Penguin! LOL
REPENT SINNER !!!!!!!!!

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#141191 May 14, 2012
Bill Of Rights wrote:
<quoted text>
Bottom line NAMBLA boy is that the VAST majority of gays just as the VAST majority of heteros are good,decent,compassionate,empa thetic,caring human beings unlike your ugly hateful human POS self! How about you judge a human being by the quality of their character and not by their sexual orientation and who they happen to love like most decent "Normal" people do,of which you are not even close you disgusting lying reprobate of a loser! And again,the vast majority of gays only look on NAMBLA and you with disgust and outright hatred! And would hand any person that harmed any child! There's some truth for you Mr. lying POS!
Then why are they supporting gay porn in schools???

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#141192 May 14, 2012
Wat the Tyler wrote:
Guys stop replying to Here is One. Anyone who says gay people support NAMBLA should not be taken seriously.
Many gays supported the GLSEN gay porn books for schools that NAMBLA supported also.

“Yellow Brick Road”

Since: Mar 12

The Land of OZ

#141193 May 14, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
Marriage between husband and wife precedes America, our laws, languages and religions. Precedent is an important legal principle, since people should know what to expect from the court, based on the past.
Lets take a look at the past and see if precedent has been set shall we. Cool beans, thanks Brian, yer a stand up kinda guy.

The first historical mention of the performance of same-sex marriages occurred during the early Roman Empire.[56] For instance, Emperor Nero is reported to have engaged in a marriage ceremony with one of his male slaves. Emperor Elagabalus "married" a Carian slave named Hierocles.[57] It should be noted, however, that conubium existed only between a civis Romanus and a civis Romana (that is, between a male Roman citizen and a female Roman citizen), so that a so-called marriage between two Roman males (or with a slave) would have no legal standing in Roman law (apart, presumably, from the arbitrary will of the emperor in the two aforementioned cases).[58] Furthermore, "matrimonium is an institution involving a mother, mater. The idea implicit in the word is that a man takes a woman in marriage, in matrimonium ducere, so that he may have children by her."[59] Still, the lack of legal validity notwithstanding, there is a consensus among modern historians that same-sex relationships existed in ancient Rome, but the exact frequency and nature of "same-sex unions" during that period is obscure.[60] In 342 AD Christian emperors Constantius II and Constans issued a law in the Theodosian Code (C. Th. 9.7.3) prohibiting same-sex marriage in Rome and ordering execution for those so married.[61]

A same-sex marriage between the two men Pedro Díaz and Muño Vandilaz in the Galician municipality of Rairiz de Veiga in Spain occurred on 16 April 1061. They were married by a priest at a small chapel. The historic documents about the church wedding were found at Monastery of San Salvador de Celanova.[62]

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#141194 May 14, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Again.....NO ONE SUPPORTS NAMBLA, but thanks to folks like you.....they still get remembered!!!
Witnesses said what about whose children were watching? Again, where the hell do you go that there is a physical sex act taking place?
Everything that I have read on the supposed GLSEN incident conflicts with what you say happens......and frankly, IF it happened the way you claimed......heads should have rolled.....but then you got your information from MassResistance......and they tend to be anti-gay and biased as hell!!!
Oh and you certainly haven't figured it out yet, but I'M NOT ROSE NoHo.......we are two different people!!!
This was the cruise ship that the gay community as a whole is supporting the actions of the two perverts

Here are the words to some of the books..........LOL
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2009/12/breaking-oba...

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#141195 May 14, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
With 31 states, you currently only have 62% that have individually supported bans on the right to marry for Same-Sex Couples......that's HARDLY a 3/4 needed to ratify the Constitution of the United States, for starters!!!
Both the House and the Senate MUST have a 2/3 majority vote in 2 CONSECUTIVE LEGISLATION SESSIONS before a Constitutional Amendment can even GO to the States......SIMPLY NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!
Simply put.....even if EVERY STATE had it's on MINI DOMA......that still WOULD NOT ratify the CONSTITUTION!!!
In just a few years we went from one toy thirty one..........LOL

Yes I know you are not the tranny...

“Yellow Brick Road”

Since: Mar 12

The Land of OZ

#141196 May 14, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
This was the cruise ship that the gay community as a whole is supporting the actions of the two perverts
Here are the words to some of the books..........LOL
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2009/12/breaking-oba...
Listed on Gateway pundit

Queer 13

Being Different

The Full Spectrum

Revolutionary Voices

Reflections of a Rock Lobster

Passages of Pride

Growing Up Gay/Growing Up Lesbian

The Order of the Poison Oak

In Your Face

Mama’s Boy, Preacher’s Son

Love & Sex: Ten Stories of Truth

From the Glsen link in your posted link

Mini Mia and Her Darling Uncle
Mini Mia loves her Uncle Tommy but does not want to share Tommy with his new boyfriend.
And Baby Makes 4
How will the young child of a two mom household feel when a new baby is brought home?
Nothing Pink
When Vincent's mother discovers a copy of a magazine in Vincent's room that makes the unacknowledged truth blatantly obvious, Vincent's nature and faith collide.
Boys Don't Knit
When Marvin accidentally unravels his new sweater, he learns that it's alright for a boy to knit.
Friends From The Other Side/Amigos Del Otro Lado
Prietita, a brave young Mexican American girl, defends Joaquin from the neighborhood kids who taunt him with shouts of "mojado" or "wetback."
Antonio's Card / La Tarjeta de Antonio
Mother's Day is coming soon, and Antonio searches for the words to express his love for his mother and her partner, Leslie. But he's not sure what to do when his classmates make fun of Leslie.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#141197 May 14, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Romney has not been President before. Obama has. Show me a post that says im a phony Christian and hatred and continuous lie's I have posted in his religions name? Back up your mouth. You are the one stupid enough to think making posts here on Topix will change the world. It's just a way to vent anger and you have a lot. Read what the Bible says about judging others. Yes Jesus said a sin is a sin, we are all sinners, and we are not perfect, but if im married and sleeping with my neighbor I should stop sinning if Im saved, same with you and your boyfriend. Hypocrite. Who cares if anyone wins an argument here, what difference will it make? Marriage with your boyfriend is not being decided here on this topix.
And your religious beliefs are irrelevant. Our Constitution DOES NOT CARE what religion you are. EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAW. It doesn't say "only for fundamentalist christians.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#141198 May 14, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Mona, remember who we are dealing with. Some of these nut jobs think that penguins can fly.
It's hard for me to believe that these nut cases can actually find their ass with both hands.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#141199 May 14, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
<quoted text>
Listed on Gateway pundit
Queer 13
Being Different
The Full Spectrum
Revolutionary Voices
Reflections of a Rock Lobster
Passages of Pride
Growing Up Gay/Growing Up Lesbian
The Order of the Poison Oak
In Your Face
Mama’s Boy, Preacher’s Son
Love & Sex: Ten Stories of Truth
From the Glsen link in your posted link
Mini Mia and Her Darling Uncle
Mini Mia loves her Uncle Tommy but does not want to share Tommy with his new boyfriend.
And Baby Makes 4
How will the young child of a two mom household feel when a new baby is brought home?
Nothing Pink
When Vincent's mother discovers a copy of a magazine in Vincent's room that makes the unacknowledged truth blatantly obvious, Vincent's nature and faith collide.
Boys Don't Knit
When Marvin accidentally unravels his new sweater, he learns that it's alright for a boy to knit.
Friends From The Other Side/Amigos Del Otro Lado
Prietita, a brave young Mexican American girl, defends Joaquin from the neighborhood kids who taunt him with shouts of "mojado" or "wetback."
Antonio's Card / La Tarjeta de Antonio
Mother's Day is coming soon, and Antonio searches for the words to express his love for his mother and her partner, Leslie. But he's not sure what to do when his classmates make fun of Leslie.
Excerpt for reflections of a rock lobster recommended for kindergarten thru 6 grade......

My sexual exploits with my neighborhood playmates continued. I lived a busy homosexual childhood, somehow managing to avoid venereal disease through all my toddler years. By first grade I was sexually active with many friends. In fact, a small group of us regularly met in the grammar school lavatory to perform fellatio on one another. A typical week’s schedule would be Aaron and Michael on Monday during lunch; Michael and Johnny on Tuesday after school; Fred and Timmy at noon Wednesday; Aaron and Timmy after school on Thursday. None of us ever got caught, but we never worried about it anyway. We all understood that what we were doing was not to be discussed freely with adults but we viewed it as a fun sort of confidential activity. None of us had any guilty feelings about it; we figured everyone did it. Why shouldn’t they?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#141200 May 14, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
Lets take a look at the past and see if precedent has been set shall we. Cool beans, thanks Brian, yer a stand up kinda guy. The first historical mention of the performance of same-sex marriages occurred during the early Roman Empire.[56] For instance, Emperor Nero is reported to have engaged in a marriage ceremony with one of his male slaves. Emperor Elagabalus "married" a Carian slave named Hierocles.[57] It should be noted, however, that conubium existed only between a civis Romanus and a civis Romana (that is, between a male Roman citizen and a female Roman citizen), so that a so-called marriage between two Roman males (or with a slave) would have no legal standing in Roman law (apart, presumably, from the arbitrary will of the emperor in the two aforementioned cases).[58] Furthermore, "matrimonium is an institution involving a mother, mater. The idea implicit in the word is that a man takes a woman in marriage, in matrimonium ducere, so that he may have children by her."[59] Still, the lack of legal validity notwithstanding, there is a consensus among modern historians that same-sex relationships existed in ancient Rome, but the exact frequency and nature of "same-sex unions" during that period is obscure.[60] In 342 AD Christian emperors Constantius II and Constans issued a law in the Theodosian Code (C. Th. 9.7.3) prohibiting same-sex marriage in Rome and ordering execution for those so married.[61]
A same-sex marriage between the two men Pedro Díaz and Muño Vandilaz in the Galician municipality of Rairiz de Veiga in Spain occurred on 16 April 1061. They were married by a priest at a small chapel. The historic documents about the church wedding were found at Monastery of San Salvador de Celanova.[62]
If you cut and paste your entire post, make a citation. Otherwise it looks like bad scholarship.
[Citation for quote above: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriag... ]

Note from your quote: "Furthermore, "matrimonium is an institution involving a mother, mater. The idea implicit in the word is that a man takes a woman in marriage, in matrimonium ducere, so that he may have children by her."

The article confounds same-sex relationships, same-sex unions and same sex marriage. Our laws let's you have a same sex marriage in your church, no law stops you. Our laws let's your family and friends consider you married. This is an issue about government recognition and your wiki quote says: "conubium existed only between a civis Romanus and a civis Romana (that is, between a male Roman citizen and a female Roman citizen), so that a so-called marriage between two Roman males (or with a slave) would have no legal standing in Roman law (apart, presumably, from the arbitrary will of the emperor in the two aforementioned cases)"

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#141201 May 14, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>If you cut and paste your entire post, make a citation. Otherwise it looks like bad scholarship.
Why don't you mention this to those who repeatedly copy and paste BS but, DON'T use a source link?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#141202 May 14, 2012
Wow, touched a nerve.

If a man could marry another man or a woman, and a woman could marry another woman or a man, then gender doesn't matter. The argument, do we want our government to do that act? What if, the only way to stop it is a Constitutional Amendment?
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#141203 May 14, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>
And your religious beliefs are irrelevant. Our Constitution DOES NOT CARE what religion you are. EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAW. It doesn't say "only for fundamentalist christians.
Our Constitution is being trampled by our current President, does that bother you too?

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#141204 May 14, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
Wow, touched a nerve.
If a man could marry another man or a woman, and a woman could marry another woman or a man, then gender doesn't matter. The argument, do we want our government to do that act? What if, the only way to stop it is a Constitutional Amendment?
Yes, because it is already taking place.....again....YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT OR AGREE WITH IT......but it is going to happen!!

A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT IS SIMPLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#141205 May 14, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, because it is already taking place.....again....YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT OR AGREE WITH IT......but it is going to happen!!
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT IS SIMPLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!
What is taking place is that in just a brew short years we went from one state banning SSM to 31 states with another couple of elections upcoming.....

The gay community also said that a majority of states would never ban SSM but yet it did happen....

The rally against SSM is large and growing and the people are as convinced that they are doing what is right as you are convinced that what you are doing is right,,,,,,,

The big difference u=is that we have about 90% of the population on our side and you have 10%

Even very liberal southern black churches are saying they will not vote for oslama over this.....

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/05/13/same...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#141206 May 14, 2012
We're going to make it happen, starting with Noveember, a President who's pledged a Constitutional Amendment, and a congress willing to pass it with a two-thirds supermajority in both houses. We've got our work cut out for us.

We're not going to stop until we put an end to nondemocratic judicial activist attacks on husband/wife marriage.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#141207 May 14, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Our Constitution is being trampled by our current President, does that bother you too?
Really? In what way is the President trampling the Constitution?

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