Illegal immigrants burden taxpayers a...

Illegal immigrants burden taxpayers and services

There are 16 comments on the www.fosters.com story from Feb 15, 2009, titled Illegal immigrants burden taxpayers and services. In it, www.fosters.com reports that:

What effect does illegal immigration have on unemployment and what financial burdens does it cause?

Illegal immigration causes an immense financial burden to taxpayers on the local level. The Federation for American Immigration Reform estimates that the cost to local communities will reach $61.5 billion in 2010.

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“The true Californian!”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#1 Feb 15, 2009
Do the math the cost of illegal immigrants to local communities will reach $61.5 billion in 2010.

This figure includes the price to educate children in grade schools, paying for incarceration and the cost of providing medical attention in area hospitals.

These estimates are only expected to grow dramatically in the next 10 years. On the federal level, back in 2002, households that were headed up by illegal immigrants cost the country nearly $27 billion while only paying $16 billion in taxes.

This causes an immediate fiscal debt on the federal level.

http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...
PSL

Boca Raton, FL

#2 Feb 15, 2009
Between the illegals and Bush's war we are done for. How can the U.S. ever get out of this mess?

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#3 Feb 15, 2009
The most lovely, and humane solution would be for the Mexis and all the other illegals should self deport or be subject to vigilante justice.
Howicit

United States

#4 Feb 16, 2009
The cost of education from k-12 of illegals and anchor babies is killing us here in California. And they keep having MORE AND MORE. Their leaders tell them to keep breeding to gain more control and eventually vote the way Mexico wants. When I tried to inform others years ago of what was said and what they planned, no one listened. They're listening now, but only after how many more millions of anchors have been born and taxpayers money to educate. Something MUST BE DONE, PERIOD.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#5 Feb 16, 2009
Please review the following report on the FISCAL COST OF IMMIGRATION by
economist Edwin Rubenstein just released this past week:
http://www.esrresearch.com/Rubensteinreport.p...

A partial summary of the report:

The Fiscal Impact on 15 Federal Departments surveyed was:$346 billion in
fiscal related costs in FY 2007.

Each immigrant cost taxpayers more than $9,000 per year.

An immigrant household (2 adults, 2 children) cost taxpayers $36,000 per
year.

Legal immigrants were not separated out from illegal immigrants for the
fiscal impact study, but if they had been, the fiscal cost per ILLEGAL
immigrant would be even more shocking than the figures quoted above.

The most extensive and authoritative study, prior to economist Edwin
Rubenstein's "The Fiscal Impact of Immigration" (April 200 , is the
National Research Council (NRC)'s The New Americans: Economic, Demographic
and Fiscal Effects of Immigration (1997).

The NRC staff analyzed federal, state, and local government expenditures on
programs such as Medicaid, AFDC (now TANF), and SSI, as well as the cost of
educating immigrants' foreign- and native-born children.

NRC found that the average immigrant household receives $13,326 in federal
annual expenditures and pays $10,664 in federal taxes-that is, they generate
a fiscal deficit of $2,682 (1996 dollars)per household.

In 2007 dollars this is a deficit of $3,408 per immigrant household.

With 9 million households currently headed by immigrants, more than $30
billion ($3,408 x 9 million) of the federal deficit represents money
transferred from native taxpayers to immigrants.

Our national immigration policies have to work for the United States. While
improving the plight of the world's poor is a laudable goal, the finite
resources we have available to fulfill that goal would be swamped if there
wasn't some orderly and manageable system in place to limit entry into the
United States to what this nation can actually support. The more illegal
aliens that are permitted to subvert the immigration system, the fewer
immigrants we can accommodate who might actually produce a positive benefit
for our country.

The more we become a nation of illegal immigrants, the deeper we fall into
anarchy.
Carol

Fort Smith, AR

#6 Feb 16, 2009
PSL wrote:
Between the illegals and Bush's war we are done for. How can the U.S. ever get out of this mess?
Congress has already sold us out. They dont want us to get out of this mess. Its on to globalism and worship of international corporate interests.
Carol

Fort Smith, AR

#7 Feb 16, 2009
Cricket, thats 9000 on top of what the congress is spending and we already owe in debt. We are now the new slaves. At least this is the plan our government has for us.
PeeWee

Erwin, NC

#9 Feb 16, 2009
It is very simple really:

1) People who support illegal aliens = TRAITORS
2) People who support funding & enforcement of our laws = Citizens

Where do YOUR elected officials fit in?

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#10 Feb 16, 2009
Our laws specifically state our tax dollars cannot be used on crime, and yet they use our tax dollars on illegal aliens -- people who should not be here and have committed a misdemeanor by jumping our border without papers.

They may not want to take the time to prove it, but saying it's too hard to prove is b.s. If someone came and stayed over a visa there is paperwork. Anyone who has no paperwork -- even expired -- is a border jumper and therefore should be prosecuted as the criminal they are...and not for the civil infraction of just being here illegally (i.e., coming legally and not leaving when time is up). For God's sake, even if they "lost" the paperwork, in this day and age of computers, there *is* a record. Anyone else, well, no record of you coming legally, too bad, so sad, you're a border jumper and a criminal.

WE, the taxpayers, should not have to deal with this burden. It is not fair to us under any circumstances.
Howicit

United States

#11 Feb 16, 2009
Carol wrote:
Cricket, thats 9000 on top of what the congress is spending and we already owe in debt. We are now the new slaves. At least this is the plan our government has for us.
You really got that right. They want to replace us because we are to much trouble. We want good safe jobs, safe food and quality products. All those things that the illegals have little concern about.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#12 Feb 17, 2009
"A personal banker in Arlington, Va., is quitting his job after Chevy Chase Bank, one of the largest and best-known banks in the Washington, D.C., region, announced it will begin accepting consular cards from customers who many suspect are illegal aliens.

The bank announced its "Hispanic Banking Initiative" during a pilot program and is now accepting Matricula Consular de Alta Seguridads, or MCAS, at all of its branches so customers without U.S. government IDs may open accounts.

The MCAS is an identification card issued to foreign nationals living in the U.S. by the Mexican government via their 47 consulates. The National Council of La Raza estimates that more than 350 financial institutions currently accept them. Customers with the IDs – including illegal aliens – are able to open checking and savings accounts, order check cards, safe deposit boxes, cashier's checks and wire billions of dollars to Mexico.

"I was becoming stressed out at work because I just knew in my heart that if someone came to me with this card I couldn't just compromise my principles and open an account for them," Chevy Chase personal banker Albert Thompson told WND.

The U.S. banking system relies on Social Security numbers to track accounts, verify identity and report taxable earnings to the government.

"Accepting the Matricula skirts that issue," Bankers Online reports. "Many Mexicans who work in the United States do so in order to send money back to their homes in Mexico. FDIC says about $18 billion is wired annually from the U.S. to Mexico. Many U.S. banks have welcomed the IDs as a way to get a cut of this activity by profiting from the handling charges on the wires and increased deposits."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php ...
concerned citizen

Rochester, NH

#13 Mar 6, 2009
This country has many who have lived here illegally and have been good citizens and who have had productive lives and contributed to there community in a positive way. Most of them eventually want to become legal citizens.
If we want to stop the growth of immigration we should help our neighboring countries citizens do better in their own country. It is interesting that some of the people who oppose people coming into this country from poorer countries also don't want us to give help to the other countries to help their economies (which provides better customers for our products to be exported to).
This is a small world we live in and we need to help one another if we are to have peace and prosperity. Our efforts on keeping illegals out should focus on keeping criminals from moving here.
PSL

Boca Raton, FL

#14 Mar 6, 2009
Cricket 23 wrote:
"A personal banker in Arlington, Va., is quitting his job after Chevy Chase Bank, one of the largest and best-known banks in the Washington, D.C., region, announced it will begin accepting consular cards from customers who many suspect are illegal aliens.
The bank announced its "Hispanic Banking Initiative" during a pilot program and is now accepting Matricula Consular de Alta Seguridads, or MCAS, at all of its branches so customers without U.S. government IDs may open accounts.
The MCAS is an identification card issued to foreign nationals living in the U.S. by the Mexican government via their 47 consulates. The National Council of La Raza estimates that more than 350 financial institutions currently accept them. Customers with the IDs – including illegal aliens – are able to open checking and savings accounts, order check cards, safe deposit boxes, cashier's checks and wire billions of dollars to Mexico.
"I was becoming stressed out at work because I just knew in my heart that if someone came to me with this card I couldn't just compromise my principles and open an account for them," Chevy Chase personal banker Albert Thompson told WND.
The U.S. banking system relies on Social Security numbers to track accounts, verify identity and report taxable earnings to the government.
"Accepting the Matricula skirts that issue," Bankers Online reports. "Many Mexicans who work in the United States do so in order to send money back to their homes in Mexico. FDIC says about $18 billion is wired annually from the U.S. to Mexico. Many U.S. banks have welcomed the IDs as a way to get a cut of this activity by profiting from the handling charges on the wires and increased deposits."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php ...
Just another step toward the NAU is all.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#15 Mar 7, 2009
concerned citizen wrote:
This country has many who have lived here illegally and have been good citizens and who have had productive lives and contributed to there community in a positive way. Most of them eventually want to become legal citizens.
They're here illegally and you think they've been good "citizens"??? They're citizens, but not of *this* country, and they have most certainly not been "good" ones.

No, most of them do *not* want to become legal citizens. If they did, they would not have rejected the suggestion last year that, if Bush's shamnesty passed, they'd have to pay a fine, etc. They did not want to do that. Some want to be given citizenship just because, and others just want to be here to work and eventually leave with the money they earned.
concerned citizen wrote:
If we want to stop the growth of immigration we should help our neighboring countries citizens do better in their own country. It is interesting that some of the people who oppose people coming into this country from poorer countries also don't want us to give help to the other countries to help their economies (which provides better customers for our products to be exported to).
This is a small world we live in and we need to help one another if we are to have peace and prosperity. Our efforts on keeping illegals out should focus on keeping criminals from moving here.
We already help other countries. We provide foreign aid to poor countries to help them. We gave Mexico over $11-million just to help with their drug problem (to help them deal with it) and, guess what? First they demanded no restrictions on using the money and no answering to us or proving what they did. Our useless government agreed. And, THEY STILL HAVE THE DAMN DRUG PROBLEM AND IT IS NOT GETTING BETTER. So, what did they use the $11-million plus we gave them on? Who knows.

Helping other countries is something we already do, but a good deal of the time, THEY DO NOT USE IT ON WHAT THEY SHOULD. We can only do so much. We do not have an unending amount of money, for God's sake. Our country is broke and in debt up to our ears!

What fantasy land are you living in?

“The true Californian!”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#16 Mar 7, 2009
Rebel wrote:
<quoted text>
They're here illegally and you think they've been good "citizens"??? They're citizens, but not of *this* country, and they have most certainly not been "good" ones.
No, most of them do *not* want to become legal citizens. If they did, they would not have rejected the suggestion last year that, if Bush's shamnesty passed, they'd have to pay a fine, etc. They did not want to do that. Some want to be given citizenship just because, and others just want to be here to work and eventually leave with the money they earned.
<quoted text>
We already help other countries. We provide foreign aid to poor countries to help them. We gave Mexico over $11-million just to help with their drug problem (to help them deal with it) and, guess what? First they demanded no restrictions on using the money and no answering to us or proving what they did. Our useless government agreed. And, THEY STILL HAVE THE DAMN DRUG PROBLEM AND IT IS NOT GETTING BETTER. So, what did they use the $11-million plus we gave them on? Who knows.
Helping other countries is something we already do, but a good deal of the time, THEY DO NOT USE IT ON WHAT THEY SHOULD. We can only do so much. We do not have an unending amount of money, for God's sake. Our country is broke and in debt up to our ears!
What fantasy land are you living in?
Concerned citizen does not live in the reality of this issue. Our country is broke, but yet "Concerned Citizen" wants the US to financially help other countries. What country is "Concerned Citizen" concerned about? Its not the USA.
crabz

West Chester, PA

#17 May 13, 2009
if we keep going the way we are going we are screwed. if china and other countries ask for all the debt we owe, the trillions of dollars will come out of the taxpayers or worse, it might lead to war.

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