Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#30698 Jun 28, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>The POTUS has a duty NOT to enforce unconstitutional laws.
Like the near countless waivers & delays that he instituted in the ACA that he trumpeted for? It is not for him to decide what is constitutional or unconstitutional, that is for SCOTUS which they have done throughout the U.S. of A,'s history. The Attorney General can file for SCOTUS to hear such a petition. Until then, written law is law.
IF he wants a law created, changed or deleted it is to be done so ONLY thru the Legislative branch. Not his own whim.
ino

Seattle, WA

#30699 Jun 28, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>The POTUS has a duty NOT to enforce unconstitutional laws.
Where is that in the Constitution?
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#30700 Jun 28, 2014
Big Johnson wrote:
<quoted text>
So much comic goodness in this comment but it is the grammatical hilarity that cracks me up.
Glad that I brought humor into your life. The grammar police do have a sense of humor. The point still stands tho.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Detroit, MI

#30701 Jun 28, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> He's the 'executive' & gave those orders instead of getting approval from congress as REQUIRED.
That's simply embarrassing. When he orders lunch, is that an executive order too?
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Detroit, MI

#30702 Jun 28, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> Like the near countless waivers & delays that he instituted in the ACA that he trumpeted for? It is not for him to decide what is constitutional or unconstitutional, that is for SCOTUS which they have done throughout the U.S. of A,'s history. The Attorney General can file for SCOTUS to hear such a petition. Until then, written law is law.
IF he wants a law created, changed or deleted it is to be done so ONLY thru the Legislative branch. Not his own whim.
Most legislation has an enabling clause that authorizes the executive branch to promulgate regulations to carry the law into effect. This is the source of power for many executive orders. You really don't understand the complexities of the operation of government.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Detroit, MI

#30703 Jun 28, 2014
ino wrote:
<quoted text>Where is that in the Constitution?
Article 1
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#30704 Jun 28, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>That's simply embarrassing. When he orders lunch, is that an executive order too?
Only if he orders lunch for every citizen in the country.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#30705 Jun 28, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>The POTUS has a duty NOT to enforce unconstitutional laws.
Only if they were ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Berea, OH

#30706 Jun 28, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>Article 1
Fat fingers. Article 2.
ino

Waverly, OH

#30708 Jun 28, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>Article 1
Show me
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#30709 Jun 28, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
And you keep proving you're nothing but a troll Boy Toy.
Yet you totally ignored post #30670. Why, little brained?
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#30710 Jun 28, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Yet it showed who the Teapublicans bow down to by blocking any legal recourse that is for the working class people by gridlocking the NLRB for years. They cry about national security. There are 48 nominations for oversea ambassador's that have an average wait of 262 days in hot spots such as Africa and no one sitting on the ASEAN where tensions are soaring over China's territorial claims. The Federal Court system is hugely backlogged because of refusal to appoint judges who are more than qualified that are being blocked over partisanship. Those do nothing, pass nothing and approve nothing idiots is the game they play, and then as always, point the blame the other way.
Let's rehash.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#30711 Jun 28, 2014
ino wrote:
<quoted text>Show me
Read it yourself.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#30712 Jun 28, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Only if they were ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
Nope.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#30713 Jun 28, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, DumBama didn't create any gun law because there was too much opposition. But Smoking Joe's statement goes to show you where this administrations mind-set is.
So you are all upset about things you think he wants to do but hasn't done. Yeah, that's about right for you guys.
ino

Waverly, OH

#30714 Jun 28, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Read it yourself.
Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

PRESERVE PROTECT AND DEFEND
NOT CHANGE OR MAKE NEW LAWS !!!!
ino

Waverly, OH

#30715 Jun 28, 2014
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#30716 Jun 28, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>The POTUS has a duty NOT to enforce unconstitutional laws.
This is where it gets pretty tricky. The President swears to uphold the Constitution, but typically defers the questions of "is it Constitutional?" to the Supreme Court. George W. changed the rules a bit, and started adding "signing statements" to legislation, sometimes saying that he would not enforce the law as Congress intended, because he thought it was unconstitutional.

Of course, some of our friends here seem to have forgotten about this fairly recent Presidential behavior, and are now shocked that Obama has used the same tools.

"Mr. Bush’s use of signing statements led to fierce controversy. He frequently used them to declare that provisions in the bills he was signing were unconstitutional constraints on executive power, and that the laws did not need to be enforced or obeyed as written. The laws he challenged included a ban on torture and requirements that Congress be given detailed reports about how the Justice Department was using the counterterrorism powers in the USA Patriot Act.

Since the 19th century, presidents have occasionally signed a bill while declaring that one or more provisions were unconstitutional. The practice became more frequent with the Reagan administration, but it initially drew little attention.

That changed under Mr. Bush, who broke all records, using signing statements to challenge about 1,200 sections of bills over his eight years in office, about twice the number challenged by all previous presidents combined, according to data compiled by Christopher Kelley, a political science professor at Miami University in Ohio."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/10/us/politics... ;
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#30717 Jun 28, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
Yep. A President does not have the authority to judge what is constitutional and what is not. That's the job of the Supreme Court. Example: Dumbo thought he had constitutional rights to grant recess appointments without the consent of Congress. Wrong, and even the most liberal of judges stated so. Therefore, DumBama can no longer make these appointments no matter what he thinks is constitutional or not.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#30718 Jun 28, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Really, then do tell, what could DumBama do about gun control other than making laws? Ask people nicely to give up their firearms?
Presidents in the past have always learned to work with the other side; reluctantly, but worked with the other side.
This "My way or the highway" attitude of this President is why he's in the position of being helpless with the Republican Congress. We may have different opinions about DumBama, but that's what courts are for: to decide who is right and who is wrong, and I don't think Boehner would be so aggressive for court action (especially before an election) if he didn't think your President was out of line.
As Commander -in-Chief there may be a lot that he can do about ammo availability. I shudder to think of the possibilities. Look what he has done with EO's.

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