Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#29148 Jun 2, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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No surprise that you utterly misunderstand Kennedy's quote.
it is not a surprise you want to explain what the simple English meant in your pretend lawyer speak.

Kennedy was speaking to EVERYONE in the USA......all of us.

only you heard voices in your head saying something different.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#29149 Jun 2, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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the FACT of the matter is the Obama administration are the worst negotiators of all time.
trade 5 for 1?
sounds like how they pay bills also....over pay 5 times what should be paid.
The academia crowd only think they are smart, but we know the TRUTH to the story.
A paper route is over these so called educated people's education obviously.
The left and the new EPA regulations will raise unemployment numbers significantly, and also raise the cost of utilities significantly.
Paging Dr. Ben Carson STAT to the oval office.
Am I a racist for wanting an Uncle Tom as POTUS?
What DumBama did was similar to him playing chess and giving up two rooks, two bishops and a knight in exchange for a pawn. Or breaking up a royal straight flush to draw two cards for a pair of kings.

Watch how the libs still stick up for him.

What he did was not only politically motivated, but illegal as well. He didn't even bother to ask Congress about dealing with the terrorists which I would guess is a norm now that DumBama is in charge. Bush's policy was "We Don't Deal With Terrorists."

DumBama lost a lot of support from the military and their families because of the VA F-up, and in haste, he made this deal for some damage control. This jerk is such a piece of garbage.

To add insult to injury, he hugged the guys father when he rambled on in Arabic some nonsense about Allah.
Canton

Canton, OH

#29150 Jun 2, 2014
So basically, from what you believe, you guys are so weak that you allowed socialists to take over your government and all you did to stop it was to cry like little girls on a online forum. Ahhhh ha ha ha ha! You heroes.

Good thing it was all in your mind. Like Reality's 20 million. Just another bullsh1t right wing sissy running their coward's mouth.
Canton

Canton, OH

#29151 Jun 2, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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liar.
1960's were Dem
1970's were split.
80" Gop
90's Dem
2000's Gop
2010's Dem.
Tell me again about Republicans the most of your life again liar.
Someone should tell GW Bush he's a Democrat. Ahhhh ha ha ha ha ha! What an idiot. Dance you spindly scarecrow.
Canton

Canton, OH

#29152 Jun 2, 2014
There have been 18 Republican presidents and 15 Democratic presidents.

Uhhhhhh check please.
Canton

Canton, OH

#29153 Jun 2, 2014
Reagan was a Liberal so that doesn't count. Ask Indy
Canton

Canton, OH

#29154 Jun 2, 2014
Reagan 8 years. Bush Sr 4 years, Bush Jr 8 years, Ford 3 years, Nixon 5 years.....That's 28 years Now let's see I am 46...I'm sure you are man enough to apologize for calling a liar and admitting you were wrong. Right Reality Speaks? What would Jesus or an Eagle Scout do? Ahhhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha! Oh That's right. In a magic world where history is rewritten, none of those guys were Republicans.
Canton

Canton, OH

#29155 Jun 2, 2014
So anyway...before country club sissy boy Reality Speaks had so wrongly accused me and rudely interrupted me...The Republicans have been running the show most of my life. Easy to see who is to blame for our nation's problems.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#29156 Jun 2, 2014
Canton wrote:
There have been 18 Republican presidents and 15 Democratic presidents.
Uhhhhhh check please.
then you are one old mother smucker.

you said your lifetime.....liar.

continue on making a fool of yourself.

PS: the 20 mil was my price tag as your slave because you want to buy me.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#29157 Jun 2, 2014
Canton wrote:
So basically, from what you believe, you guys are so weak that you allowed socialists to take over your government and all you did to stop it was to cry like little girls on a online forum. Ahhhh ha ha ha ha! You heroes.
Good thing it was all in your mind. Like Reality's 20 million. Just another bullsh1t right wing sissy running their coward's mouth.
What do you think our form of Government advocates and it was Karl Marxs that labeled the US being based on Socialism and Remember under Socialism as Karls Marxs describes Socialism the Government is not a provider like Liberals of today believe in their form of Socialism.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#29158 Jun 2, 2014
Canton wrote:
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Someone should tell GW Bush he's a Democrat. Ahhhh ha ha ha ha ha! What an idiot. Dance you spindly scarecrow.
Exactly Bruce Bartlett and others felt that GW. Bush was governing like a Liberal Democrat and it is covered in Bruce Bartletts book (Impostor: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy)

Bruce Bartlett, a veteran of the Reagan White House and Treasury Department, argues that George W. Bush has betrayed the Reagan legacy by expanding the size and scope of the federal government and letting the federal budget mushroom out of control. He charges that the Medicare expansion of 2003 may be “the worst legislation in history” and raises the question of whether Bill Clinton was a better fiscal conservative than Bush. Bartlett writes as a fiscally conservative Republican and worries that his party will have little future if it loses the trust of voters who want small government and fiscal responsibility. Blogger extraordinaire Andrew Sullivan will comment on Bartlett’s critique and the state of American conservatism.
http://www.cato.org/events/impostor-how-georg...
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#29159 Jun 2, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Someone should tell GW Bush he's a Democrat. Ahhhh ha ha ha ha ha! What an idiot. Dance you spindly scarecrow.
sorry you can't read.....must be that vast education on display?

2000's= Bush.

maybe someday when you elect to utilize your brain you can speak with people of intelligence, but till then you are plumb dumb.
Canton

Canton, OH

#29160 Jun 2, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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then you are one old mother smucker.
you said your lifetime.....liar.
continue on making a fool of yourself.
PS: the 20 mil was my price tag as your slave because you want to buy me.
Sorry 46 here and 28 years has been your GOP. That's called most of my life. Now again. Like a man, I'm sure you'll be able to stand up like an Eagle Scout and apologize for incorrectly calling me a liar. I also see you pulled another number out of your @ss again.
Canton

Canton, OH

#29161 Jun 2, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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sorry you can't read.....must be that vast education on display?
2000's= Bush.
maybe someday when you elect to utilize your brain you can speak with people of intelligence, but till then you are plumb dumb.
Indy said GW was a Liberal.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#29162 Jun 2, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
What liberal here has ever asked for anything for free? I can't think of one. In fact, you are the one who is constantly crying about having to pay for things.
Did you read this today?
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/...
Your link doesn't matter. Remember Obama said that people would SAVE approx $2500 a year? Not that it will only cost a little more, but that there will be NO savings what so ever. HUGH difference !

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#29163 Jun 2, 2014
Canton wrote:
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Indy said GW was a Liberal.
alot of Conservatives felt that way with his Compassionate Conservatism as he called it.

Some think Bush was too liberal

Wes Allison, Times Staff Writer

Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:59pm

Some people could make the argument that Bush was the most liberal president since Lyndon Johnson," said Gleaves Whitney, director of the Hauenstein Center for Presidential Studies at Grand Valley State University and author of a new paper, "Anatomy of a Divorce: Conservatives versus George W. Bush."

"There were a lot of things that conservatives felt grateful for. But on the other hand, the disappointments with Bush were profound."

Whitney, a Republican, ticked off the president's major transgressions:

• Initially nominating his counsel, Harriet Miers, to the Supreme Court, despite a deep bench of conservative legal scholars ready to be tapped.

• Supporting immigration reform that included a route to legal status for illegal immigrants.

• Adding a $900-billion prescription drug benefit to Medicare, the insurance program for senior citizens.

• Failing to keep Congress from spending beyond its means. Combined with the administration's demands for war funding, this contributed to a whopping 75 percent increase in the federal debt during his tenure. It's now more than $10-trillion.

The dismay has only grown recently, with the president's backing of the $700-billion Wall Street rescue package and loans to faltering U.S. automakers.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/nationa...
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#29164 Jun 2, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Your right especially with social security which FDR and his White House actuaries confirmed before enacting the Social Security Act that social security in it orginal form would never be able to sustain itself at 1% on the employee and 1% on the employer besides by law social security was never to exceed 1% on the employee and 1% on the employer and if social security ever had to exceeded that 1% on the employee and the employer the social security program was to terminate as the Liberal wrote the law. Liberals also knew that since social security was a tax that no one would have any legal property rights to Social Security which the Liberal Majority confirmed on SCOTUS in their ruling in 1960 in Flemming vs. Nestor and they also made very clear that social security taxes are simply taxes and convey no property or contractual rights in their ruling and the Federal Government can do anything with the Social Security tax that is colleced as they wish to and also eliminate social security at any time and they call this Liberalism.
RESERVATION OF POWER
http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/ssact/title11/1104...
Supreme Court Case: Flemming vs. Nestor
http://www.ssa.gov/history/nestor.html
Property Rights: The Hidden Issue of Social Security Reform
By Charles E. Rounds Jr.
April 19, 2000
One of the most enduring myths of Social Security is that a worker has a legal right to his Social Security benefits. Many workers assume that, if they pay Social Security taxes into the system, they have some sort of legal guarantee to the system’s benefits. The truth is exactly the opposite. It has long been law that there is no legal right to Social Security. In two important cases, Helvering v. Davis and Flemming v. Nestor, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Social Security taxes are simply taxes and convey no property or contractual rights to Social Security benefits.
As a result, a worker’s retirement security is entirely dependent on the political decisions of the president and Congress. Benefits may be reduced or even eliminated at any time. Given the program’s looming financial crisis, benefit cutbacks are increasingly likely. Therefore, the entirely political nature of Social Security places workers’ retirement security at considerable risk. Indeed, Congress has already arbitrarily reduced Social Security benefits of some groups of workers. Moreover, because Social Security benefits are not a worker’s property, they are not inheritable.
In contrast, a privatized Social Security system, based on individual accounts, would provide workers with the benefits and the safeguards of true ownership.
http://www.cato.org/publications/social-secur...
Is There a Right to Social Security?
By Michael D. Tanner
November 25, 1998
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/i...
Social Security’s Sham Guarantee
By Michael D. Tanner
May 29, 2005
They are not guaranteed legally because workers have no contractual or property rights to any benefits whatsoever. In two landmark cases, Flemming v. Nestor and Helvering v. Davis, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Social Security taxes are not contributions or savings, but simply taxes, and that Social Security benefits are simply a government spending program, no different than, say, farm price supports. Congress and the president may change, reduce, or even eliminate benefits at any time.
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/s...
Helpful & informative as you often are. TY
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#29165 Jun 2, 2014
One of the problems with SS not being there as intended is that our wonderful & totally honest representatives tapping it time after time & NOT writing a law that would keep them from playing with it.
Another is the way that they use these funds in ways that effectively & lawfully allows them to buy votes.
3rd, which is a segue from #2, the reasons for payouts from this tax revenue stream has expanded over the years. That is why the tax with holding has tripled !!
4th, OUR reps (of both parties) lead the shallow thinker to believe that WE are entitled to SS retirement funds & then offer NO cost of living increases or low increases, lower than they give themselves, to the weakest segment of our society, the aged & infirmed that paid in all or most of their working lives.
I call the aged the weakest of society because the babies & children have a much broader support system. Generally the aged have already lost their parents, many siblings if they have any & the siblings that may still be around are winding down too with limited capacity to help anyone but their selves.
There's more, but enough said to the thinkers.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#29166 Jun 2, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Your link doesn't matter. Remember Obama said that people would SAVE approx $2500 a year? Not that it will only cost a little more, but that there will be NO savings what so ever. HUGH difference !
The Tea Bag brain in one short sentence. "Your link doesn't matter." Don't let the facts get in your way, you old fool.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#29167 Jun 2, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
The Tea Bag brain in one short sentence. "Your link doesn't matter." Don't let the facts get in your way, you old fool.
you are the mold growing in my boat bilge.

I utilized a solution that in minutes made you disappear.

Good riddance, and America is better for the mold removal.

If only it were that easy.

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