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Board of Elections officials predicted that 45 percent of the county's 18,128 registered voters would cast ballots.
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Tired of the Game

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Very disappointed with the LOW turn out considering the weather was good . Some countries people would give their life to vote but in this country people think they are just too busy, yet would be the first to complain when things didn't go their way .
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Very disappointed with the LOW turn out considering the weather was good . Some countries people would give their life to vote but in this country people think they are just too busy, yet would be the first to complain when things didn't go their way .
At least there was enough turn out to make sure the school district found out how the public feels!!! NO NEW TAXES FOR YOU SUPERINTENDENT Dr. David Quattrochi !!!!
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Why should Carrollton schools operate on the lowest taxes in the state?
The answer is that people just don't understand why more money is needed. Yes, they're partly expressing their frustration with the state of education across the nation. But they mostly just aren't hooked in to the real needs of the Carroll schools.
And how would they be?
This is what I told the county park board about raising money:'People do not just walk up and write you checks. They have to see and feel where you are going. They have to feel like they're getting something. They have to be emotionally invested in what they're writing the check for.
'And,... you have to actually ask them.'
The same applies to a school levy. Trotting a levy out at the last minute and then hoping none of the opponents show up to vote is not a strategy. It's certainly not leadership.
I don't know the winning strategy for Carrollton schools. I do know it can't all be on the back of the Superintendent. Running and organization as large as Carrollton schools is a tough job. Plus, election law gives the responsibility for raising levies to the citizens.
Somehow or other, the people of Carroll County need to come to see that their schools are crumbling. They have to be led to see that.
Somehow, a citizen-leader has to take up that duty upon their back.
And not give up.
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Tired Of It Too wrote:
<quoted text>At least there was enough turn out to make sure the school district found out how the public feels!!! NO NEW TAXES FOR YOU SUPERINTENDENT Dr. David Quattrochi !!!!
At least you can drink at the vets club until you are wet brained.

The day is coming very soon you will pay for your stupidity.
Carroll County Transplant

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At least you can drink at the vets club until you are wet brained.
The day is coming very soon you will pay for your stupidity.
School levy hasn't passed since what, the 70's? I've heard every excuse in the book here. Bottom line, education is not a priority to the majority of Carroll County residents/voters.
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The problem with passing the levy is that nothing ever happens as a result of voting no. The first thing the School Board should do is cut the bus routes that are within two miles of the school. Augusta and Delroy elementary schools should be shut down..I have no doubt that "pay to participate" will soon be implemented...My point is that the people of Carroll County will NEVER vote yes until they FEEL the pain of voting no....

Its time..Dr. Q, bring the pain..
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We vote "yes" for the seniors of the county (I am one), we vote "yes" for the mental heath issues when they are presented, yet "no" when our children are concerned. Exactly who do you think is the future of this village, county and country????? It is a sad state of affairs when you turn down the kids. Just remember: they will choose your elder care when needed. If you wind up in a dump, it's your own fault.
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Another year, another sad realization that Carrollton doesn't care about its youth/education.
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ARES wrote:
The problem with passing the levy is that nothing ever happens as a result of voting no. The first thing the School Board should do is cut the bus routes that are within two miles of the school. Augusta and Delroy elementary schools should be shut down..I have no doubt that "pay to participate" will soon be implemented...My point is that the people of Carroll County will NEVER vote yes until they FEEL the pain of voting no....
Its time..Dr. Q, bring the pain..
I get your point. I voted no because when I called MR. Q, and asked what he would do with all them students. His answer was "Put some in the element., and put trailers out back, But could not tell me how he was planning on funding, which showed me carrollton must not be hurting. Am I wrong maybe but the man of the hour couldn"t answer that. So when I asked what the money was going toward he stated to keep the school running. Not to make major reapairs, and his one key word was SALARIES. That did it for me.
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Salaries? You mean not paying them? Or paying them as required by law. Please clairify.
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Parent, so your line of logic when told by the superintendent that the majority of the money for the school goes toward salaries was to vote no??!! Tell me how that clicked in your mind when people must be employed in order for the school to stay open. He DIDN'T say major repairs because they DON'T have the money for it. Let us not forget that this levy was NOT for a new school...it was NOT for major repairs...it WAS to keep the school running as is, no extra frills, no salary increase, NOTHING NEW. The state has cut funding for public education and it has now fallen into the laps of the community to pick up the slack. To actually care. Unfortunately, it is the ill-educated that seem to have the upper hand here and are determined to make sure the next generation stays just as ignorant as all those before. WAKE UP! This community cannot thrive without a healthy school district. The community has not stepped up since the 70s and the school has managed for nearly 40 years on that. Are you telling me that you are living the same lifestyle you were in the 70s, with the same wages, without any major repairs to your home, without any extra amenities? Or were you even alive in the 70s? How is it that we can rationalize passing other levies over and over again that have been put on the ballot over the years, ones that deserve funding as well such as Carroll Hills, but when it comes to the largest employer in the community, the one place that can help our children better themselves and have a shot at a better future than our own, we vote no...every...single...time???? !! It is infuriating, to say the least. By the way, PARENT, you need to get clued in to the salaries towards which you are so irate...do some research. EDUCATE YOURSELF SO YOUR CHILDREN CAN HAVE A CHANCE AT BEING PROPERLY EDUCATED AS THEY DESERVE.

It would be nice to think that the voters in charge of the funding of our education system were actually bothering to educate themselves.

I agree with ARES, I hope the voters start to see what voting 'no' actually means, and I hope it is a VERY rude awakening.
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Parent, so your line of logic when told by the superintendent that the majority of the money for the school goes toward salaries was to vote no??!! Tell me how that clicked in your mind when people must be employed in order for the school to stay open. He DIDN'T say major repairs because they DON'T have the money for it. Let us not forget that this levy was NOT for a new school...it was NOT for major repairs...it WAS to keep the school running as is, no extra frills, no salary increase, NOTHING NEW. The state has cut funding for public education and it has now fallen into the laps of the community to pick up the slack. To actually care. Unfortunately, it is the ill-educated that seem to have the upper hand here and are determined to make sure the next generation stays just as ignorant as all those before. WAKE UP! This community cannot thrive without a healthy school district. The community has not stepped up since the 70s and the school has managed for nearly 40 years on that. Are you telling me that you are living the same lifestyle you were in the 70s, with the same wages, without any major repairs to your home, without any extra amenities? Or were you even alive in the 70s? How is it that we can rationalize passing other levies over and over again that have been put on the ballot over the years, ones that deserve funding as well such as Carroll Hills, but when it comes to the largest employer in the community, the one place that can help our children better themselves and have a shot at a better future than our own, we vote no...every...single...time???? !! It is infuriating, to say the least. By the way, PARENT, you need to get clued in to the salaries towards which you are so irate...do some research. EDUCATE YOURSELF SO YOUR CHILDREN CAN HAVE A CHANCE AT BEING PROPERLY EDUCATED AS THEY DESERVE.
It would be nice to think that the voters in charge of the funding of our education system were actually bothering to educate themselves.
I agree with ARES, I hope the voters start to see what voting 'no' actually means, and I hope it is a VERY rude awakening.
To your opinion, I get we have to pay salaries. But You never addressed My response with the trailers? How were they planning on buying trailers hooking up elect ect. we are so broke but yet they got the money for that. That was my hardest statement to over come, and the fact he could not give me a answer. If it wasn't for that I would have voted for the levy. Maybe the school should consider how it approaches its levys and the questions asked with better resp. I wasn't born in the 70"s so can't answer that. I'm on boarder of sandy vally worse comes to worse thats will my kids will go. Thats called making the smarter choice.
Carolee Luecken

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Until the people of Carrollton pass a school levy, their children will continue to go to second rate schools with, I think, first rate teachers. Is this fair? Our children should come first and taxes to provide them with the schools they need must be high on the priority list for everyone. Grandparents like me included. Especially us. Wake up, people of Carrollton.
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Good plan, parent. Send your kids to another school since you won't bother to support Carrollton. Where would they get the money to get trailers and electric for them? Shut all the outlining schools, cut teachers, cut bus drivers, hopefully cut bus routes so all of you voting no will have to truly feel the weight of your decision. By making deep cuts they can afford to buy a few cheap trailers and run electric through them. Kids can sit in their winter coats because the insulation probably won't be enough. They aren't going to get top of the line trailers, I am sure. With all the cuts they will have to make and perhaps instituting pay to play they will still spend less money on trailers than they are spending now. That is how they will afford it.
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The trailers are a lot cheaper to operate and maintain the the Delroy and Augusta school buildings. Closing these schools would cover the cost to purchase trailers and operate them, duh.
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This school admin and board has done the easy stuff to try to cut cost. Oh, here comes the "I don't know anything about it people" When the previous super was here she was doing things to truly save funds, but the teachers and workers did not like her. Talk to any of them and they will tell you they believe the current super is easier to work with. I have talked with a some and that is the response I get. That is fine. They simply don't want to change just like the people don't want to pay more taxes.

Yea, as long as he meets their requirements and doesn't cut jobs, or services. According to the Ohio Dept of Education Carrollton per student revenue is approx $8800. That is very comparable to other schools in our area with substantially higher medium family incomes. We are getting the proper funding. If we pass a levy the state will reduce their contribution to the operating funds. In the end we will not gain much. The people understand that throwing money at a "so-called" problem will not fix it. We have shut down outlying schools, but not this guy or all on this board. They just seem to want to try to pass a levy.

So the last 2 have went down 60/40. Let's see if they try again. As long as enrollment is going down then the school needs to continue to reduce expendiures. They are spending far more today than they did 10 years ago with 20% more strudents. That is a fact!

So the people that say we don't care about kids are simply part of the progressive crowd that throw insults and jabs at people. Sticks and stones people! That will not help!

Rose Seck was re-elected but she was a levy person so exactly what is she going to do now to change the focus of the board. They are here to represent the people to the school. The people have said twice that they don't want to pay more taxes. So the board needs to work with it.

I believe the 1st big step is to go to 1 start and stop time. That will save thousands in operating cost per year. Yea you will have to add a few more buses and drivers, but the operating cost per year will easily out weigh those expenditures.
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This school admin and board has done the easy stuff to try to cut cost. Oh, here comes the "I don't know anything about it people" When the previous super was here she was doing things to truly save funds, but the teachers and workers did not like her. Talk to any of them and they will tell you they believe the current super is easier to work with. I have talked with a some and that is the response I get. That is fine. They simply don't want to change just like the people don't want to pay more taxes.
Yea, as long as he meets their requirements and doesn't cut jobs, or services. According to the Ohio Dept of Education Carrollton per student revenue is approx $8800. That is very comparable to other schools in our area with substantially higher medium family incomes. We are getting the proper funding. If we pass a levy the state will reduce their contribution to the operating funds. In the end we will not gain much. The people understand that throwing money at a "so-called" problem will not fix it. We have shut down outlying schools, but not this guy or all on this board. They just seem to want to try to pass a levy.
So the last 2 have went down 60/40. Let's see if they try again. As long as enrollment is going down then the school needs to continue to reduce expendiures. They are spending far more today than they did 10 years ago with 20% more strudents. That is a fact!
So the people that say we don't care about kids are simply part of the progressive crowd that throw insults and jabs at people. Sticks and stones people! That will not help!
Rose Seck was re-elected but she was a levy person so exactly what is she going to do now to change the focus of the board. They are here to represent the people to the school. The people have said twice that they don't want to pay more taxes. So the board needs to work with it.
I believe the 1st big step is to go to 1 start and stop time. That will save thousands in operating cost per year. Yea you will have to add a few more buses and drivers, but the operating cost per year will easily out weigh those expenditures.
So nice to hear some TRUTH & COMMON SENSE. I vote for Archie for President or at least the school board.
Tired of it Too

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billy hill wrote:
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At least you can drink at the vets club until you are wet brained.
The day is coming very soon you will pay for your stupidity.
Ohhhhhh , now that's an intelligent response. Hate to tell ya, but I don't drink and have never set foot in the vets club.(Although, I have never thought of it until now since you mentioned it, but they have been a success over the years with no tax levies to support them ..... maybe the vets club should run our schools???) But I am a very respected member of the community and a very successful businessman and I am a property owner in the county that pays more than my fair share of taxes.(and as a landowner, I have to pay enough extra property taxes to cover all the expenses that all of the people that Do Not own any property get to vote on to raise my taxes!!) I do vote for tax levies that I can see that something actually benefits from and not just to line a few peoples pockets. This county will never pass a school levy until they can see that it will actually benefit our kids education and well being, and not just hire more people and give more raises. Wanna pass a tax levy to fund our schools?? Make it an income tax or a head tax so that EVERYONE pays a fair and equal share, and not lay all the burden on the successful property owners in the county.
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The problem with passing the levy is that nothing ever happens as a result of voting no. The first thing the School Board should do is cut the bus routes that are within two miles of the school. Augusta and Delroy elementary schools should be shut down..I have no doubt that "pay to participate" will soon be implemented...My point is that the people of Carroll County will NEVER vote yes until they FEEL the pain of voting no....
Its time..Dr. Q, bring the pain..
Nothing ever happens from voting NO ???!!! Where have you been for the last 30 years?? Every tax levy that they have put up has been for NON-EDUCATIONAL reasons.... such as, but not limited to...... buying a farm , operating expenses, building a weight room, arts room and other non necessary additions??, hiring more people, Spend, Spend, Spend. Once again, Nothing ever happens from voting NO?? EVERYTHING has happened!!! Absolutely everything that they wanted to do by passing a tax levy, They have done even after the voters said NO ..... and you wonder why we will not vote for them anymore??
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Tired of it Too wrote:
<quoted text> Nothing ever happens from voting NO ???!!! Where have you been for the last 30 years?? Every tax levy that they have put up has been for NON-EDUCATIONAL reasons.... such as, but not limited to...... buying a farm , operating expenses, building a weight room, arts room and other non necessary additions??, hiring more people, Spend, Spend, Spend. Once again, Nothing ever happens from voting NO?? EVERYTHING has happened!!! Absolutely everything that they wanted to do by passing a tax levy, They have done even after the voters said NO ..... and you wonder why we will not vote for them anymore??
I'm pretty conservative, and you appear not to have the slightest idea what education is. Or, in fact, what it takes to run any organization, let alone a public school.

No one advocates harder for increasing STEM and core (you do know how a Fourier transform is used and what Mr. Schrodinger taught us don't you?) than I. But...

Carrollton schools spend less than most other schools. The things you describe here are basics in almost any schools except the most extremely dysfunctional.

The Land Ordinance of 1785, with the Northwest Ordinance of 1787, set up public schools schools. This is what the latter said.ôReligion, morality, and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged."

Morality in 2013 includes taking care of one's body in an age of video games, automobiles, desk jobs, and robotic floor cleaners. Knowledge meand using one's mind to produce arts, not just to consume them; to be able to communicate ideas in a variety of forms and modalities.

Weight rooms and arts rooms are a non-necessity perhaps in Afghanistan, but not in a community that wants to be part of modern America.

But perhaps you prefer to pay for welfare and medicare instead of education. Some people do.

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