Larry Wilson: Doo Dah organizers are ...

Larry Wilson: Doo Dah organizers are the real Thorny Roses

There are 107 comments on the Pasadena Star-News story from Apr 24, 2010, titled Larry Wilson: Doo Dah organizers are the real Thorny Roses. In it, Pasadena Star-News reports that:

On the whole, I preferred the rumor that the Doo Dah Parade would give its annual Thorny Rose Award to itself.

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Leon

Dana Point, CA

#1 Apr 24, 2010
How did they NOT choose Michael Beck??
concerned citizen

United States

#3 Apr 25, 2010
I said the same thing to Tom and Patty, it's not Michael Beck? What?

_Virginia_

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#4 Apr 25, 2010
The Doo-dah organizers missed the boat in not nominating Larry Wilson himself, for his complete lack of oversight - which equals encouragement of - the massive trolling problem here on the Pasadena Star-News Topix forums.

Right here in these comments, a name-stealing troll has written in as Michelle Zack - stealing her name and writing in a comment with it - exactly as I have had done here to myself, many, many times.

Name-stealing is Identity Theft, and is a crime. Yet Wilson, as public editor of the Star-News, is allowing this practice to continue, daily. So does the Star-News support criminal practices now?

Wilson has let out scarcely a peep about the massive trolling problem on these forums connected to Star-News articles, yet every single day, commentators are openly harassed, trolls are spreading malicious disinformation, condemnation of the poor, open racism, bullying commentators, the works and I mean works!

Here on this Star-News Topix thread, a troll has used my full real name, many times, publishing forged comments with it: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/pasadena-ca/T...

My identity is being forged, I am being harassed - as is Michelle Zack - yet Wilson says or does nothing. He is and has been, the Master of bully media here in Pasadena.

Larry Wilson deserves the Thorny Rose.
Russman626

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Apr 25, 2010
Virginia Olive Hoge wrote:
The Doo-dah organizers missed the boat in not nominating Larry Wilson himself, for his complete lack of oversight - which equals encouragement of - the massive trolling problem here on the Pasadena Star-News Topix forums.
Right here in these comments, a name-stealing troll has written in as Michelle Zack - stealing her name and writing in a comment with it - exactly as I have had done here to myself, many, many times.
Name-stealing is Identity Theft, and is a crime. Yet Wilson, as public editor of the Star-News, is allowing this practice to continue, daily. So does the Star-News support criminal practices now?
Virginia, you forgot to mention that Topix delays your posts because they are reviewing them and that you have has gone to the city attorney with evidence against these impostor trolls on Topix!
You go girl!
Wilson has let out scarcely a peep about the massive trolling problem on these forums connected to Star-News articles, yet every single day, commentators are openly harassed, trolls are spreading malicious disinformation, condemnation of the poor, open racism, bullying commentators, the works and I mean works!
Here on this Star-News Topix thread, a troll has used my full real name, many times, publishing forged comments with it: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/pasadena-ca/T...
My identity is being forged, I am being harassed - as is Michelle Zack - yet Wilson says or does nothing. He is and has been, the Master of bully media here in Pasadena.
Larry Wilson deserves the Thorny Rose.
You go girl
Tom Trollingman

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Apr 25, 2010
Virginia Olive Hoge wrote:
Right here in these comments, a name-stealing TROLL has written in as Virginia Olive Hoge. So does the Star-News support criminal practices now?
My identity is being forged, I am being harassed. My posts are being monitored. Is there any justice? This is a crime against humanity. I demand that a hearing before the Supreme Court!
Well said. You get 'em.

_Virginia_

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#14 Apr 26, 2010
Here is another example, on yet another thread, of my real full name being used by a troll, I am also being "sieged" by trolls.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/pasadena-ca/T...

These are the practices the Star-News is supporting and encouraging.(!!) I note, again, that Larry Wilson is public editor, that means he is editor of opinion - i.e. these forums.

so what, this is "ok" with him? identity theft? harassment? bullying?
sheesh

San Bernardino, CA

#15 Apr 26, 2010
Larry Wilson has no control over topix forums. sheesh

_Virginia_

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#16 Apr 26, 2010
forgive me, audience, since my comments are being moderated, with a five minute delay - why I have no idea (yikes!!)

I have to refresh the page to see if they are even published.

sorry for all the repeats here, but this is a big deal, Larry Wilson cannot allow identity theft to occur on Topix. Nor, I would add, censorship.
James Langendorf

Sacramento, CA

#17 Apr 26, 2010
Virginia Olive Hoge wrote:
forgive me, audience, since my comments are being moderated, with a five minute delay - why I have no idea (yikes!!)
I have to refresh the page to see if they are even published.
sorry for all the repeats here, but this is a big deal, Larry Wilson cannot allow identity theft to occur on Topix. Nor, I would add, censorship.
Lady, you are a KOOK!
James Langendorf

Sacramento, CA

#18 Apr 26, 2010
Virginia Olive Hoge wrote:
Here is another example, on yet another thread, of my real full name being used by a troll, I am also being "sieged" by trolls.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/pasadena-ca/T...
These are the practices the Star-News is supporting and encouraging.(!!) I note, again, that Larry Wilson is public editor, that means he is editor of opinion - i.e. these forums.
so what, this is "ok" with him? identity theft? harassment? bullying?
Lady, nobody here cares about your little dramas! Take it somewhere else!

_Virginia_

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#19 Apr 26, 2010
James Langendorf wrote:
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Lady, nobody here cares about your little dramas! Take it somewhere else!
This is a type of troll comment that has been following me around Topix.

The troll is attempting to defend the Master of Bully Media in Pasadena.

The Topix trolls harass real-person commentators with comments like - "James Langendorf"'s - all the time, and I mean all the time! comments written purely to discredit and harass, to be mean to, to be cruel to, the commentator.

Is this ok, Larry Wilson? it it ok for Pasadena commentators to be harassed? He is - by his silence - just encouraging this type of internet harassment.

Larry Wilson is Pasadena's Master of Bully Media. this is dead-on. He most definitely should be riding in the Thorny Rose car.

_Virginia_

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#20 Apr 26, 2010
Virginia Olive Hoge wrote:
Right here in these comments, a name-stealing troll has written in as Michelle Zack - stealing her name and writing in a comment with it - exactly as I have had done here to myself, many, many times.
Name-stealing is Identity Theft, and is a crime.
I am happy for Michele that Topix removed the name-stealer troll's comment using her real name.

Yet the multiple comments using my real full name, are still very much "live" on Topix, what is up with this, Larry?
complain to T 0 P l X

San Bernardino, CA

#21 Apr 26, 2010
Go to the bottom of this page. Click on the "send us your feedback link". A new window will open and you will be able to post links to the offending posts and topix will remove them.

I have had many offensive/racist remarks removed this way.

Good luck.

Since: Mar 10

Los Angeles, CA

#22 Apr 26, 2010
complain to T 0 P l X wrote:
Go to the bottom of this page. Click on the "send us your feedback link". A new window will open and you will be able to post links to the offending posts and topix will remove them.
I have had many offensive/racist remarks removed this way.
Good luck.
For the most part, TOPIX is unmoderated. I have complained about my trolls and they are still following me around, mocking my posts. It's fine because I can out post them any day of the week...but dont look to TOPIX for help. They are out to lunch.

Since: Mar 10

Los Angeles, CA

#23 Apr 26, 2010
Make me a mod at TOPIX and I would have the places cleaned up...toot sweet!
French 101

San Bernardino, CA

#24 Apr 26, 2010
tout de suite

_Virginia_

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#25 Apr 26, 2010
Russman626 wrote:
<quoted text>
For the most part, TOPIX is unmoderated. I have complained about my trolls and they are still following me around, mocking my posts. It's fine because I can out post them any day of the week...but dont look to TOPIX for help. They are out to lunch.
I know, so true Russman626!! When the trolls built 16 attack forums here on Topix attacking me, including one that forged my user-account, complete with my picture, real name, the whole nine yards, it took days and days of filing feedback complaints for Topix to remove them.

This is intentional and has been remarked on around the country about Topix. What is clear also, is that the Star-News is not providing ANY over-sight - or hardly any - to these forums linked to their articles. Yet as comments attached to their articles, they are part of the content of that article and the Star-News IS accountable for them.

Like Topix, they are choosing not to be, which equals complicity in the bullying that is going on here hourly.

_Virginia_

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#26 Apr 26, 2010
complain to T 0 P l X wrote:
Go to the bottom of this page. Click on the "send us your feedback link". A new window will open and you will be able to post links to the offending posts and topix will remove them.
I have had many offensive/racist remarks removed this way.
Good luck.
A supporter wrote in and was laughing hysterically at the Topix trolls trying to DIRECT people to the Feedback link.

A link us veterans know, is mostly, USELESS!!

I was shadow-banned on Topix, people! For two weeks I wrote comments only I could see. Larry Wilson surely knows of these practices, most defintinitly, yet he Likes them, they service his purpose to beat up his enemies. Nothing less.

Well, you know what?? There are enuf of us who care way too much about things that Matter: Public Education, the FACT that Racism is WRONG, the fact that ALL kids deserve a chance in life...

to allow bullying or shadow-banning or trolling, to keep us off these threads, where actually it is still possible, despite everything, to get the truth out.
PSN must ban T 0 P l X

San Bernardino, CA

#27 Apr 26, 2010
Virginia Olive Hoge wrote:
<quoted text>....Larry Wilson surely knows of these practices,......
You have no way of knowing what Larry knows. You are very perceptive and sensitive but not telepathic.

That being said, PSN should get rid of trolls and bullies by terminating their business relationship with topix. The PSN must create a forum that is moderated or at least requires registration to post. This is how most respected newspapers do it.

I doubt they will act because the parent corp of PSN is swirling around the drain and poor Larry may soon be out of a job.

_Virginia_

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#28 Apr 26, 2010
PSN must ban T 0 P l X wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no way of knowing what Larry knows. You are very perceptive and sensitive but not telepathic.
That being said, PSN should get rid of trolls and bullies by terminating their business relationship with topix. The PSN must create a forum that is moderated or at least requires registration to post. This is how most respected newspapers do it.
I doubt they will act because the parent corp of PSN is swirling around the drain and poor Larry may soon be out of a job.
I KNOW what Larry knows, he knows what "tricks" are at his disposal here on Topix.

but I am almost arguing here, that even Topix, even the Topix corporation, is aghast here, at Wilson's practice of allowing Pasadena trolls to steal and use, people's real full names.

Virginia Olive Hoge is a name I happen to be very attached to. It is my maternal grandmother's name I inherited, who died of tuberculosis when my mother was only 4 years old.

Olive is my paternal grandmother's name, a wonderful woman, so full of spirit and such a beauty.

Hoge is a historic name in Pasadena history, my grandfather and great-grandfather were an important part of early Mount Wilson history.

so you see, I am very attached to my name, and appalled that the Star-News trolls have stolen it.

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