Pasadena fatal shooting touches off w...

Pasadena fatal shooting touches off worries of retaliation

There are 156 comments on the Pasadena Star-News story from Mar 9, 2010, titled Pasadena fatal shooting touches off worries of retaliation. In it, Pasadena Star-News reports that:

Community leaders and police officers attempted to keep the peace in Northwest Pasadena on Monday, following the slaying of a teenager near a bus stop on North Fair Oaks Avenue.

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Poor Me

Edmonton, Canada

#37 Mar 9, 2010
Russman626 wrote:
While there is a secret committee picking our next Chief of Police and while the Mayor contemplates his next vacation to China, the escalation of the race war in Northwest Pasadena is certain.
This city is ignoring what can easily become an all out riot.
I condemn the pacifistic nature of the Pasadena City Council who are more concerned about Ice Rinks than they are the violence north of the 210 freeway.
Bla Bla Bla, same old noise. Poor us, not our fault, we are victims, no one cares, bla bla bla. Where is the "NW Community" in helping solve this and all the 100's of other NW gang crime cases? These "Community Leaders" are only good at complaining and demanding more while offering the same old false claims that a race war is on the way.

Well get off your collective butts and do something about it.
making a difference

Los Angeles, CA

#38 Mar 9, 2010
i sit here reading about how should the city just get rid of certain people but i dont read what can we do to help the people. believe it or not people want help, the resources are so scarce that they dont really know where to start looking for help. its ridiculous how people ignore the nw side of pasadena like if there is some really disfunctional about the people that live there, what about the disfunctional minds that just ignore the problem?
some people in the nw side of pasadena dont have the funds to just get up and take their kids to another place.
.....this is just so unpleasant to read, people quick to judge, but have you ever sat down to talk to a kid from nw pasadena? have you ever seen teh potential they have? do you ever think about their struggles?

FYI the pic that star news has was on a poster for abrahams memorial, but hey star news, guess what ? there is a different picture on that same memorial, do you mind putting that one up?...that is how i remember abraham, sitting down in that same posture and smiling
Magister_Militus

Escanaba, MI

#39 Mar 9, 2010
concerned citizen wrote:
I say create a law that bans gang members from living within or visiting Pasadena. They are criminals and should be treated as one at all times.
Then cops wouldn't be able to work their criminal enterprizes.

But, on the bright side, at leas the cops and the gangs have the sheep in line.
Concerned Pasadena Parent

United States

#40 Mar 9, 2010
It's unfortunate that teenager Abraham Rodriguez had to loss his life in apparently was a senseless shooting on Sunday morning; however the Pasadena Star News Media and the Pasadena Police Department should assume the majority of the blame if retaliation is sought.

The Pasadena Star News for incitation and irresponsible reporting and the Pasadena Police Department for allowing thoughts that family and friends of Rodriguez to feel that retaliation is an option.

HAVE WE FORGOTTEN ABOUT MONROVIA !!!!!!!!!!
Jumping Jim

Pasadena, CA

#41 Mar 9, 2010
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
What will you do with the vacant half of Pasadena?
How about organic farmland.
Jumping Jim

Pasadena, CA

#42 Mar 9, 2010
Concerned Pasadena Parent wrote:
It's unfortunate that teenager Abraham Rodriguez had to loss his life in apparently was a senseless shooting on Sunday morning; however the Pasadena Star News Media and the Pasadena Police Department should assume the majority of the blame if retaliation is sought.
The Pasadena Star News for incitation and irresponsible reporting and the Pasadena Police Department for allowing thoughts that family and friends of Rodriguez to feel that retaliation is an option.
HAVE WE FORGOTTEN ABOUT MONROVIA !!!!!!!!!!
Yea, blame everyone but the low life gangsters----Bofo.
Dan

Pasadena, CA

#43 Mar 9, 2010
Russman626 wrote:
While there is a secret committee picking our next Chief of Police and while the Mayor contemplates his next vacation to China, the escalation of the race war in Northwest Pasadena is certain.
This city is ignoring what can easily become an all out riot.
I condemn the pacifistic nature of the Pasadena City Council who are more concerned about Ice Rinks than they are the violence north of the 210 freeway.
If a race war occurs, the demise of most of the victims in that area will not be missed.

“a good community is OUR job”

Since: Mar 09

Pasadena

#44 Mar 9, 2010
making a difference wrote:
i sit here reading about how should the city just get rid of certain people but i dont read what can we do to help the people. believe it or not people want help, the resources are so scarce that they dont really know where to start looking for help. its ridiculous how people ignore the nw side of pasadena like if there is some really disfunctional about the people that live there, what about the disfunctional minds that just ignore the problem?
Are you kidding me? The NW soaks up more resources than any other part of town. They get the new remodeled parks. They require more patrols. There's a NW Redevelopment team. They get exemptions for builders to build there. There are job centers, women's centers, etc galore.

At some point, people need to stop asking what's everyone gonna do for me... and start doing something for themselves.
making a difference wrote:
some people in the nw side of pasadena dont have the funds to just get up and take their kids to another place.
It doesn't take much money to get up and move. Sure, you might have to sell off some stuff... but is sticking around worth a dead son or daughter? Not to me. I would make it happen. Plus, there are other areas of the country that have better job markets right now.. so it could be a double win to move.
making a difference wrote:
..this is just so unpleasant to read, people quick to judge, but have you ever sat down to talk to a kid from nw pasadena? have you ever seen teh potential they have? do you ever think about their struggles?
I have on many occasions. It has been a mixed bag. Mostly with the older kids I've talked to (mid school/high school) I have been really disappointed. Many hardly talk at all... more like mumble, and have trouble making eye contact. They seem half dead, like zombies. I'm not trying to be funny, here either.

I've talked to some about school. Many say it is uncool to be smart. I talked to one fellow I caught smoking dope out of a pringles can at La Pintoresca park. He was Latino. Talked about how the Crips at Muir were a real problem Talked about how he just laid low and stayed to himself. He wanted to be an Marine Biologist. He was a senior.. I asked if he applied to Scripps and he had no idea what I was talking about. I asked where he's applied or how he plans to achieve his goals. He was gonna try to get a summer job at "sea world or something". He skated off.
Warren

Los Angeles, CA

#45 Mar 9, 2010
making a difference wrote:
i sit here reading about how should the city just get rid of certain people but i dont read what can we do to help the people. believe it or not people want help, the resources are so scarce that they dont really know where to start looking for help. its ridiculous how people ignore the nw side of pasadena like if there is some really disfunctional about the people that live there, what about the disfunctional minds that just ignore the problem?
some people in the nw side of pasadena dont have the funds to just get up and take their kids to another place.
.....this is just so unpleasant to read, people quick to judge, but have you ever sat down to talk to a kid from nw pasadena? have you ever seen teh potential they have? do you ever think about their struggles?
FYI the pic that star news has was on a poster for abrahams memorial, but hey star news, guess what ? there is a different picture on that same memorial, do you mind putting that one up?...that is how i remember abraham, sitting down in that same posture and smiling
Don't wait for others to help those kind. Those kind and their community need to help theirself.
Warren

Los Angeles, CA

#46 Mar 9, 2010
If the family and friends of Rodriguez to feel that retaliation is an option, the cops need to keep an eye on them with an order to "protect the public with all necessary means."
amazing

Orange, CA

#47 Mar 9, 2010
do any of you people actually live in pasadena ?
what's happening to nw pasadena was planned yrs ago.
and if some in the community bite on the crap and start a war, they will be doing what the city fathers want them to do. they are looking for any excuse to be heavy handed, the racial violence in pasadena has been minimal as have the homicides for the most part.
Dave

Altadena, CA

#48 Mar 9, 2010
This is why I NEVER drive on Fair Oaks - not even in Old Town. Los Robles - same thing. I live in Altadena and if I have to get somewhere, I will go EAST first and then backtrack.

“a good community is OUR job”

Since: Mar 09

Pasadena

#49 Mar 9, 2010
amazing wrote:
do any of you people actually live in pasadena ?
what's happening to nw pasadena was planned yrs ago.
and if some in the community bite on the crap and start a war, they will be doing what the city fathers want them to do. they are looking for any excuse to be heavy handed, the racial violence in pasadena has been minimal as have the homicides for the most part.
I live in Pasadena...

Do you live in Pasadena? If so, I think I recommend a few psychiatrists for you. Those voices in your head are not "The Man".
NW are people too

San Bernardino, CA

#50 Mar 9, 2010
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
If a race war occurs, the demise of most of the victims in that area will not be missed.
I disagree their demise will be duly noted in the media. But that isn't what you meant krakker. Learn to write.
so what

United States

#51 Mar 9, 2010
Dave wrote:
This is why I NEVER drive on Fair Oaks - not even in Old Town. Los Robles - same thing. I live in Altadena and if I have to get somewhere, I will go EAST first and then backtrack.
quit being a scary ass....nobody is worried about you. its your community and you should be able to drive down any street you please.
Laterz

Lomita, CA

#52 Mar 9, 2010
Dave wrote:
This is why I NEVER drive on Fair Oaks - not even in Old Town. Los Robles - same thing. I live in Altadena and if I have to get somewhere, I will go EAST first and then backtrack.
Where's the tough guy now? Wuss.
Let them eat cake

Santee, CA

#53 Mar 9, 2010
Janet Pope-Givens is a complete bubble-head. The Pasadena PD would love to get rid of this albatross of a PR dead-weight, but can't because of political reasons. She is as worthless as the city's PR heftyweight, two-ton Tessie Ann....another worthless piece of flesh.
Insider

Henderson, NV

#54 Mar 9, 2010
Russman626 wrote:
While there is a secret committee picking our next Chief of Police and while the Mayor contemplates his next vacation to China, the escalation of the race war in Northwest Pasadena is certain.
This city is ignoring what can easily become an all out riot.
I condemn the pacifistic nature of the Pasadena City Council who are more concerned about Ice Rinks than they are the violence north of the 210 freeway.
Hey Russ, I believe, "True Freedom", asked you a question. Why don't you answer it? Tell us how you would handle this situation. No fair saying, "put more police up there". That area already has more cops than any other part of the city and more calls for service. Besides, you hate cops, right? More influx of money into the community. Nope, don't use that. N/W gets more project and infrastructure money than any other part of the city. Come on Russ let's hear you're cure all!!!!
jsidney

El Cajon, CA

#55 Mar 9, 2010
Don't worry. The Pasadena City Council realizes violence is more important than Ice Rinks. They are thundering to your rescue.

The Pasadena City Council is talking about banning tobacco smoking inside all Pasadena homes.

All apartments, condominiums, and single-family detached houses.

Now that is one whomping useful City Council!
NWA

United States

#56 Mar 9, 2010
It's not about race, it's about crime and we need to stop it once and for all. This has just gone too far and for too long. Double, triple the sentences for gang related crimes. Lock 'em up until they are old and grey. The coward that did this should be sentenced accordingly... The needle.

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