State looking to rate California's pr...

State looking to rate California's preschools

There are 32 comments on the San Gabriel Valley Tribune story from Apr 11, 2010, titled State looking to rate California's preschools. In it, San Gabriel Valley Tribune reports that:

Pre-Kindergarten teacher Saharai Alvarez reads a story while Guilermina Buio and her twin 4-year old daughters Barenas and Stephanie Barenas enjoying the storytelling Thursday April 8, 2010.

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#22 Apr 12, 2010
Ah, yes - I can visualize it now. If pre-schools are to be better "ranked" after this idea comes to fruition, then or course, the pre-schools will be able to charge a lot more money, because they will now be a "top ranked" pre-school. That is what the ranking system is about - money, more money. It isn't about children getting a better head start, because, if it were, there would already be a base curriculum in place across the board for all pre-schools. And so, fellow bloggers, it will become, that only the families with more income will be able to afford the higher "ranked" pre-schools. And here it will start, even for pre-school - the rich get a better education, while the middle class will have to struggle to pay, and the working poor still won't get a break. It is a bad idea.
Bif

Moreno Valley, CA

#23 Apr 12, 2010
Hey San Jose,,,,I don't smoke...talk about something you know the facts on. Facts are, we are over taxed for crap that does not benefit our society. People who choose to have children should pay for their own expenses, not force it on the rest of us. You represent the typical socialist democratic mentality that society is too weak to take care of itself so the fat cat politicians have to rule our lives and take our money. People who wish to have children should do their own research and decide for themselves how to educate their children. But like someone else here said, it's just free babysitting. I work for a living, I pay my taxes, I'm educated. The solution I believe in is that people should be self reliant instead of leeching off of society and hoping the government will take care of them and their children. Is that too much for you to wrap your head around?
Bif

La Quinta, CA

#24 Apr 12, 2010
your momma.
Chocoholic

Fresno, CA

#26 Apr 12, 2010
If pre schools are funded by state tax dollars then they have no right to spend our tax money rating them.The state wants control over everybody's business and in doing so will want more tax money to implement this program.
Chocoholic

Fresno, CA

#27 Apr 12, 2010
June likes chestnuts wrote:
June, I'm glad you are proud to be a teabagger although I am a bit confused as to how you do it. how old are you? my guess is that you are over 55, which means your children went to preschool during the late 60's or early 70s when selecting preschools was much less complicated. Now that your kids are grown you don't have to worry about the issue. So to you it boils down to "your pocektbook" rather than a responsibility everyone has to insure that our next generation is educated enough to be decent, competent citizens and workers.
The Greatest Generation and the Baby Boomers did not go to pre school.We all did just fine and dandy.Now the kids go to preschool and it has not done one iota of good.Maybe one parent should stay home with their kids instead of relying on preschools and the public school system to not ony educate but to raise their kids.
Chocoholic

Fresno, CA

#28 Apr 12, 2010
money spent wrote:
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Yes I do think Kindergarten. Like I said in the original post all grades are important, however, if we do not have quality, safe, low class sizes in kindergarten we lose prospective parents to private schools. I'm not talking about you thousands of dollars high end private schools, I'm talking to your preschools that run till kinder: Kindergarten is not a requirement in California, your child does not have to go to Kindergarten. You can keep your child at their preschool/daycare if they have the kinder room, at a fraction of the costs of a private school and the class sizes, nurturing environment that most parents want. Is it what I recommend no, but I work with Kinder and First grade kids-here in PUSD talking to their parents that is what many of them want- nurturing quality one on one with the teacher. As per your ADD and ADHD kids in 4th grade we have Resources Specialist teachers (RSP-and Special ed classrooms) where those kids spend the majority of their instructional time in a smaller class room environment.
Good.Let paretns put their kids in a private school so as to free up our tax money's.In fact I think parents should be footing the school bill and that goes for the public one.
omg

Los Angeles, CA

#29 Apr 12, 2010
money spent wrote:
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Yes I do think Kindergarten. Like I said in the original post all grades are important, however, if we do not have quality, safe, low class sizes in kindergarten we lose prospective parents to private schools. I'm not talking about you thousands of dollars high end private schools, I'm talking to your preschools that run till kinder: Kindergarten is not a requirement in California, your child does not have to go to Kindergarten. You can keep your child at their preschool/daycare if they have the kinder room, at a fraction of the costs of a private school and the class sizes, nurturing environment that most parents want. Is it what I recommend no, but I work with Kinder and First grade kids-here in PUSD talking to their parents that is what many of them want- nurturing quality one on one with the teacher. As per your ADD and ADHD kids in 4th grade we have Resources Specialist teachers (RSP-and Special ed classrooms) where those kids spend the majority of their instructional time in a smaller class room environment.
NO THEY DO NOT!!!
June Weathers

Anaheim, CA

#30 Apr 12, 2010
I have 3 children all under the age of 8. So no I'm not over 55. Not that I really understand what my age has to do with this topic. Parents make preschool complicated by overanalyzing it. It's preschool after all, not college. My husband and I decided to not be a part of the private school rat race that is so huge in Pasadena. We homeschool. All of our children have at one time been in preschool but after paying over $500 a month per child without academic benefits we decided it was not necessary. Our children are very mature and each about a grade level ahead due to homeschooling. In case someone jumps on the socialization thing they have many friends of all ages and are involved with numerous enrichment activities. This is what we've decided is best for our family. We have friends who do private school, public school and homeschool. We don't judge but we see how well it's worked for us. A parent is the number one educator of their child, not the school! i get so tired of seeing people just say "well it's up to the school to teach them this or that since we're paying so much money." Sad.
pas

Los Angeles, CA

#31 Apr 12, 2010
June Weathers wrote:
I have 3 children all under the age of 8. So no I'm not over 55. Not that I really understand what my age has to do with this topic. Parents make preschool complicated by overanalyzing it. It's preschool after all, not college. My husband and I decided to not be a part of the private school rat race that is so huge in Pasadena. We homeschool. All of our children have at one time been in preschool but after paying over $500 a month per child without academic benefits we decided it was not necessary. Our children are very mature and each about a grade level ahead due to homeschooling. In case someone jumps on the socialization thing they have many friends of all ages and are involved with numerous enrichment activities. This is what we've decided is best for our family. We have friends who do private school, public school and homeschool. We don't judge but we see how well it's worked for us. A parent is the number one educator of their child, not the school! i get so tired of seeing people just say "well it's up to the school to teach them this or that since we're paying so much money." Sad.
absolutely valid, and good for you for not judging others on their decisions. i am staunchly the same way. everyone must do what they feel is best for their family.
one problem with homeschooling though, is that not everyone can afford to do it.
the overanalyzing of preschool is only going to get worse.. there are recent studies that show it can have a big impact for some kids, and it is a big part of obama's plan from what i understand.. i think that is one of the reasons things like this state rating are starting to happen.
June Weathers

United States

#32 Apr 12, 2010
Just a short comment on affording to homeschool. There are curriculums that range from less than $200 to over $1000 for the entire school year. If you think about the cost of private schooling lets say in LA you're talking much much more than that($10,000-20,000 per child a school year). I do understand not all may be able to have one parent home full time too. That is also a choice we made before we had more than one child. We choose to live in a townhome within walking distance of a park so that I can stay home with our children. Living below your means isn't always glamorous but can reap great rewards for your family in the long run. I'd love to have more space sure but raising my kids comes way before other material things. In short homeschooling is attainable if you truly think it's best for your family situation. I have friends who use their husbands retirement for tuition. Now I don't understand why homeschoolers are sometimes looked as so oddly. (just a thought, not directed at anyone on this board) Pas - thank you for the nice comments. Should be interesting to see what happens with Obama's plan...
Tom Turkey

Glendale, CA

#33 Apr 12, 2010
I am not keen on rating schools much less preschools. Why do we have to live in a society where they need to rate something in order to valdiate it?

Honestly, preschools are preschools. Preschool should be about exploring, learning, and letting the child become who they are and not worry if the the curriculum will make them college material.

If preschools give children time to explore with structure, we will have children who can think for themselves.

I am very disappointed that California has become a "one size fits all" approach to education. Schools and preschools should be able to engage students based on who they are and where they come from. This cookie cutter approach that is being embraced by the state for the sake of providing universal education is just wrong. Children living in Los Angeles County will have different experiences from children living in Lake Shasta.
Anonymous

Saint Paul, MN

#34 Apr 14, 2010
it's not like teachers don't actually spend that money on students

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