State looking to rate California's pr...

State looking to rate California's preschools

There are 32 comments on the San Gabriel Valley Tribune story from Apr 11, 2010, titled State looking to rate California's preschools. In it, San Gabriel Valley Tribune reports that:

Pre-Kindergarten teacher Saharai Alvarez reads a story while Guilermina Buio and her twin 4-year old daughters Barenas and Stephanie Barenas enjoying the storytelling Thursday April 8, 2010.

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Sid Farkus

Azusa, CA

#1 Apr 11, 2010
Don't those idiots have anything better to do? Hmmm... maybe controlling spending and managing the budget should be a priority. Jeesh...
LEK

AOL

#2 Apr 11, 2010
Who is going to pay for it?
money spent

Monrovia, CA

#3 Apr 11, 2010
At a time when our public schools are asking parents to donate everything from paper to soap, at a time when we are laying off teachers and asking un-employed parents to come in to soften the ratio's, now they want to rate preschools? In an idea world that would be great. In an ideal world there would be enough money for every child in the state to go to a preschool, and their public school to have everything they need to succeed. But, do we have that right now? No! Right now we need to focus on kindergartners and seniors. In my opinion the most vulnerable grade levels right now in our school system. Is every grade important? Yes, But right now class sizes are going up and if we aren't losing them to private school in kinder- we are losing them due to less electives as a senior. Can our State Ed Dept prioritize anything?
pas

Los Angeles, CA

#4 Apr 11, 2010
money spent wrote:
At a time when our public schools are asking parents to donate everything from paper to soap, at a time when we are laying off teachers and asking un-employed parents to come in to soften the ratio's, now they want to rate preschools? In an idea world that would be great. In an ideal world there would be enough money for every child in the state to go to a preschool, and their public school to have everything they need to succeed. But, do we have that right now? No! Right now we need to focus on kindergartners and seniors. In my opinion the most vulnerable grade levels right now in our school system. Is every grade important? Yes, But right now class sizes are going up and if we aren't losing them to private school in kinder- we are losing them due to less electives as a senior. Can our State Ed Dept prioritize anything?
well, in an ideal world our public schools would work much better for the amount of money we provide them, but the reality is we have a society that creates an environment for kids that the schools have a hard time competing with or countering. there are some pretty interesting studies related to the impact of good pre-school on a child's education, what roles the 'teachers' there play, and how ratings can impact the quality of those people. i was reading a book the other day with some references to these.. i'll try to post some later if anyone is interested.

we may have to get used to the fact that we have created a society that is not very prone to easily being educated. we can complain a lot about it costing us too much, but its probably a good idea to understand why its so.. and who is responsible.
money is not the issue

La Quinta, CA

#5 Apr 11, 2010
Sid Farkus,LEK, & money spent...
You are all old,small minded,teabagging simpletons. Move your old ideas to the side of the road because that is what got us into this mess in the first place(voting for Arnold and Bush).
The rest of us need to resuscitate our civilized society.
LEK

AOL

#6 Apr 11, 2010
California is out of money and at risk of going bankrupt. For that reason, this is not the time for CA to fund a new program pertaining to rating of preschools.
money is not the issue wrote:
Sid Farkus,LEK, & money spent...
You are all old,small minded,teabagging simpletons. Move your old ideas to the side of the road because that is what got us into this mess in the first place(voting for Arnold and Bush).
The rest of us need to resuscitate our civilized society.
June Weathers

Anaheim, CA

#7 Apr 12, 2010
I'm a "tea-bagger" and proud of it! Why spend $ on rating preschools when you can easily go on a tour to see the school in person? Seems like a waste to me.
June likes chestnuts

Hilmar, CA

#8 Apr 12, 2010
June, I'm glad you are proud to be a teabagger although I am a bit confused as to how you do it. how old are you? my guess is that you are over 55, which means your children went to preschool during the late 60's or early 70s when selecting preschools was much less complicated. Now that your kids are grown you don't have to worry about the issue. So to you it boils down to "your pocektbook" rather than a responsibility everyone has to insure that our next generation is educated enough to be decent, competent citizens and workers.
crazy

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Apr 12, 2010
This is just FREE BABYSITTING for the parents !!! Put the money elsewhere.
pas

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Apr 12, 2010
crazy wrote:
This is just FREE BABYSITTING for the parents !!! Put the money elsewhere.
actually thats an interesting take.. did you know that states with preschool early on were more competitive because both parents could now work? so you're absolutely right, and the money is re-gained and them some. of course this contributes to less involved parents.. but i guess you do what you gotta do..
omg

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Apr 12, 2010
money spent wrote:
At a time when our public schools are asking parents to donate everything from paper to soap, at a time when we are laying off teachers and asking un-employed parents to come in to soften the ratio's, now they want to rate preschools? In an idea world that would be great. In an ideal world there would be enough money for every child in the state to go to a preschool, and their public school to have everything they need to succeed. But, do we have that right now? No! Right now we need to focus on kindergartners and seniors. In my opinion the most vulnerable grade levels right now in our school system. Is every grade important? Yes, But right now class sizes are going up and if we aren't losing them to private school in kinder- we are losing them due to less electives as a senior. Can our State Ed Dept prioritize anything?
You seriously think kindergarten?!Try fourth and up where the class size goes to at least 33 kids.There are kids that are rude,disruptive and they know NOTHING will happen to them at school or at home and then there are kids that have ADD,ADHD all mixed into one classroom.For kids that want to learn it is damn near impossilbe with all this CHAOS going on.
Crazy is not a parent

Hilmar, CA

#12 Apr 12, 2010
....so your input is irrelevant.
Peter Johnson

United States

#13 Apr 12, 2010
Yippee. More government intrusion into families personal lives. Being pathetic excuses for parents really has it's rewards in California's all consuming Orwellian Nightmare.
money spent

Monrovia, CA

#14 Apr 12, 2010
omg wrote:
<quoted text>You seriously think kindergarten?!Try fourth and up where the class size goes to at least 33 kids.There are kids that are rude,disruptive and they know NOTHING will happen to them at school or at home and then there are kids that have ADD,ADHD all mixed into one classroom.For kids that want to learn it is damn near impossilbe with all this CHAOS going on.
Yes I do think Kindergarten. Like I said in the original post all grades are important, however, if we do not have quality, safe, low class sizes in kindergarten we lose prospective parents to private schools. I'm not talking about you thousands of dollars high end private schools, I'm talking to your preschools that run till kinder: Kindergarten is not a requirement in California, your child does not have to go to Kindergarten. You can keep your child at their preschool/daycare if they have the kinder room, at a fraction of the costs of a private school and the class sizes, nurturing environment that most parents want. Is it what I recommend no, but I work with Kinder and First grade kids-here in PUSD talking to their parents that is what many of them want- nurturing quality one on one with the teacher. As per your ADD and ADHD kids in 4th grade we have Resources Specialist teachers (RSP-and Special ed classrooms) where those kids spend the majority of their instructional time in a smaller class room environment.
Bif

Moreno Valley, CA

#16 Apr 12, 2010
Don't see how it's irrelevant if some one is not a parent....out tax dollars are still paying for all this CRAP!
Big needs a timeout

Hilmar, CA

#17 Apr 12, 2010
totally relevant. your "tax dollars" are actually tax percentages of one or two cents. The benefit is seen by those who are impacted.
less than one dollar for better preschool that is a no brainer.
So next time you forget to put your cigarette out before you fall asleep and start a fire that requires the Fire department, remember that that is my "tax money" too, but I am paying for it because it is for the greater good of our society.
How about offering some solutions rather than just complaining? Your parents must not have instilled that in you, or perhaps YOUR preschool sucked and now we as a society have to pay for your inability to comprehend such issues
LEK

AOL

#18 Apr 12, 2010
June likes chestnuts wrote:
June, I'm glad you are proud to be a teabagger although I am a bit confused as to how you do it. how old are you? my guess is that you are over 55, which means your children went to preschool during the late 60's or early 70s when selecting preschools was much less complicated. Now that your kids are grown you don't have to worry about the issue. So to you it boils down to "your pocektbook" rather than a responsibility everyone has to insure that our next generation is educated enough to be decent, competent citizens and workers.
I agree with June even though my child is in preschool.
LEK

AOL

#19 Apr 12, 2010
P.S. to "June likes chestnuts": It would be irresponsible for a parent to substitute the government's judgment (whatever that means) for the parent's own judgment with respect to any aspect of raising a child.
Linda Freeman

United States

#20 Apr 12, 2010
Turning our young children over to the Orwellian forces of hate and intolerance which defines the Left in Sacramento is fine if you are nothing more than a Calif Democrat.
Inga Kempe

Shakopee, MN

#21 Apr 12, 2010
There has to be an agreed upon bar of excellence by which parents can measure their child's care against others.

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