Is it Fair to Deny Children of Illegal Immigrants College In-State Rates? [POLL]

The gist of it would be to give the children of said immigrants who were brought here when they were young, in-state rates to colleges here if they can prove that they will legalize their immigration status, and also have graduated high school for at least 3 years or obtained a GED.

[bobbuck4]

This is not a dream it's a nightmare. Who is voting for these people? I have put one son through college and I have two that are currently in college. This is thanks I get for supporting NJ schools, I can barely afford the tuition as it is and now my tax dollars will go to subsidize illegals. These people are out their minds. If everyone who feels the way I do could just take a minute and send your comments to Trenton maybe they will finally get it through their thick skulls that there are a lot of people in this state that do not support this. Follow this link or copy and paste it, it's pretty easy and I will be there as soon as I post this.
www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/legsearch.asp

[tomin cali]

is it fair to reward those here illegally yet will not do the same for legal folks who come here for school?

illegals will be getting all sorts of free gifts stolen from citizens.

in the paper here a few weeks back an immigrant from whales was told by her lawyer to leave and come back illegally and get rewarded with cheaper school rates or even free school and a financial aide check as a reward for breaking the law.

rewarding those who broke the law says it all about those who push such foolishness shows they support crime over those who obey the rule of law.

[Anonymous]

bobbuck4 wrote:

This is not a dream it's a nightmare. Who is voting for these people? I have put one son through college and I have two that are currently in college. This is thanks I get for supporting NJ schools, I can barely afford the tuition as it is and now my tax dollars will go to subsidize illegals. These people are out their minds. If everyone who feels the way I do could just take a minute and send your comments to Trenton maybe they will finally get it through their thick skulls that there are a lot of people in this state that do not support this. Follow this link or copy and paste it, it's pretty easy and I will be there as soon as I post this.
www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/legsearch.asp

I know what it is to pay out of pocket tuition,I did it and eventually reached a point where I just couldn't do it anymore. I decided to put that on hold for a year. The extra cost to cover illegals and those Americans who can't even speak beyond Ebonics was too much to handle after awhile. The charges were rising while my income stayed the same. Whoever thought or thinks is it my/our responsibility to financially support these illegals through hard work,sweat and at times tears,,, is out of their minds.
Our country is being run by incompetent men who couldn't care less about our Sovereignty/people nor what makes America great.

[tomin cali]

our gov has send our guys all over the world pushing their own ideas on all others and are now doing the same here.

[ronnie]

As I've posted numerous times on this Forum. Americans have payed for there children's College and have helped them with funding and student loans. My son attends College in Utah and over half the student's are illegals. Asian, Mexican, South American etc. They are always in the front of the freebie line. Grant's for the poor, scholarships for illegals. They are arrogant people as well, and are working in the schools all over the Nation. My son also works with several illegals that are treated like they're guest's in our Country instead of illegals that scammed the State and Country for free Educations and whose parents snuck in and stole other peoples ID's to live here. A terrible situation for all American Student's.

[Mayela]

Cesar Millan
On the surface the Dog Whisperer doesn't seem like an especially bad ass guy. You might even say he seems like the exact opposite of badass. That he seems so badass that when he walks into a room full of badass people he sucks the badass out of the room and they all turn into regular law abiding citizens. But under the surface there lurks some serious badass cred. Did you know he got his start rehabilitating especially aggressive dogs? Before you judge his badassery think about how tough a dude has to be to one on one tell giant angry pit bulls to be quiet and act nice and THEY DO. Not to mention he crossed the border illegally at 21, spoke no English, and is now more famous than anyone you will ever know combined. So to those that are against immigration, know that if we kept Cesar Millan from entering out country a whole crapload of American dogs would be running through the streets biting babies in half instead of being cuddly and adorable and well trained.
http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/articles/10-mo...

[Heather from LI]

Mayela wrote:

Cesar Millan
On the surface the Dog Whisperer doesn't seem like an especially bad ass guy. You might even say he seems like the exact opposite of badass. That he seems so badass that when he walks into a room full of badass people he sucks the badass out of the room and they all turn into regular law abiding citizens. But under the surface there lurks some serious badass cred. Did you know he got his start rehabilitating especially aggressive dogs? Before you judge his badassery think about how tough a dude has to be to one on one tell giant angry pit bulls to be quiet and act nice and THEY DO. Not to mention he crossed the border illegally at 21, spoke no English, and is now more famous than anyone you will ever know combined. So to those that are against immigration, know that if we kept Cesar Millan from entering out country a whole crapload of American dogs would be running through the streets biting babies in half instead of being cuddly and adorable and well trained.
http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/articles/10-mo...

I agree. Immigrants are fine, and it is the blacks who are the problem.

[tomin cali]

a better question would be is it fair to take from citizens to cater to the children of illegal aliens.

[Heather from LI]

tomin cali wrote:

a better question would be is it fair to take from citizens to cater to the children of illegal aliens.

Yes, if the "citizens" are blacks.

[tomin cali]

Heather from LI wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, if the "citizens" are blacks.

seems there is another la raza plant.

[Heather from LI]

tomin cali wrote:

<quoted text>
seems there is another la raza plant.

I'm saying blacks are worse than illegals. Do you agree, or are you a liberal?

[John]

yes

[teddyr4me]

Yes, especially when they are given more dispensations than vets.

[barry]

teddyr4me wrote:

Yes, especially when they are given more dispensations than vets.

teddy, how about speaking the truth for once?

benefits the Post-9/11 GI Bill (that's for vets teddy)will pay include:

Your full tuition & fees directly to the school for all public school in-state students. For those attending private or foreign schools tuition & fees are capped at the national maximum rate. Click here for more information.
If you are attending a private Institution of Higher Learning in AZ, MI, NH, NY, PA, SC or TX you may be eligible for a higher tuition reimbursement rate. Click here for more information.
For those attending a more expensive private school or a public school as a non-resident out-of-state student, a program exists which may help to reimburse the difference. This program is called the “Yellow Ribbon Program”.(Click on the link for more information about the Yellow Ribbon Program, not everyone is eligible for the program).

A monthly housing allowance (MHA)

An annual books & supplies stipend

A one-time rural benefit payment

http://www.gibill.va.gov/benefits/post_911_gi...

let me sum it up for you teddy, a vet can go to college for free!!!

[Oldglory]

Heather from LI wrote:

<quoted text>I'm saying blacks are worse than illegals. Do you agree, or are you a liberal?

Blacks are citizens of this country and have every right to be here. Illegal aliens are not. How can you make such a comparison?

[barry]

Oldglory wrote:

<quoted text>
Blacks are citizens of this country and have every right to be here. Illegal aliens are not. How can you make such a comparison?

because she is a jerk and a racist.

[byebye illegals]

Federal law prohibits state colleges and universities from providing in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens “on the basis of residence within the State”—unless the same in-state rates are offered to all citizens of the United States. Today, 12 states are circumventing this federal law, and the legal arguments offered to justify such actions are untenable, no matter what other policy arguments are offered in their defense. Because at least one federal court of appeals has held that there is no private right of action under the specific statute in question—§ 1623 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996—the U.S. Department of Justice must enforce this statutory provision against states that have violated federal law. Yet even as it sues states like Arizona and Alabama for trying to assist the enforcement of federal immigration law, the U.S. government refuses to sue states that are incontrovertibly and brazenly violating an unambiguous federal immigration law. Such inaction is unacceptable: The President and the Attorney General have an obligation to enforce every provision of the United State’s comprehensive federal immigration regulations—including the federal law prohibiting state colleges and universities from providing in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens “on the basis of residence within the State.”
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2011...

[Purple Independent]

YES. They are not here legally and they are citizens of another country. WE OWE THEM NOTHING.

[Purple Independent]

Heather from LI wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, if the "citizens" are blacks.

The question was based on legal status, not race. "Illegal" is not a race. Don't throw a red herring in there.

[Purple Independent]

barry wrote:

<quoted text>teddy, how about speaking the truth for once?
benefits the Post-9/11 GI Bill (that's for vets teddy)will pay include:
Your full tuition & fees directly to the school for all public school in-state students. For those attending private or foreign schools tuition & fees are capped at the national maximum rate. Click here for more information.
If you are attending a private Institution of Higher Learning in AZ, MI, NH, NY, PA, SC or TX you may be eligible for a higher tuition reimbursement rate. Click here for more information.
For those attending a more expensive private school or a public school as a non-resident out-of-state student, a program exists which may help to reimburse the difference. This program is called the “Yellow Ribbon Program”.(Click on the link for more information about the Yellow Ribbon Program, not everyone is eligible for the program).
A monthly housing allowance (MHA)
An annual books & supplies stipend
A one-time rural benefit payment
http://www.gibill.va.gov/benefits/post_911_gi...
let me sum it up for you teddy, a vet can go to college for free!!!

And I, for one, am OK with that. Vets are the lucky ones who didn't get killed, enlisting with the full knowledge that they could get killed. So if they were lucky enough to survive, the least we can give them is good start on life.

Illegal aliens, on the other hand, HAVE DONE NOTHING POSITVE FOR US. WE OWE THEM NOTHING.