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Environmental rule might cost Ohio 214 jobs | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 58 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jun 23, 2010, titled Environmental rule might cost Ohio 214 jobs | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Gov. Ted Strickland has asked environmental regulators to come up with a way to save 214 jobs at a northwest Ohio plant that is considering a move to Indiana because of an environmental rule.

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watcher

Lancaster, OH

#43 Jun 24, 2010
Yeah, while Stricklands people are exploring how to stop the move the moving trucks are loading and getting on the road to Indiana.
Why not just do what has to be done?
Strickland, is hot air, and no leadership.
Fed up with Republicians

Westerville, OH

#44 Jun 24, 2010
Mobbarelli wrote:
Maybe if we stopped regulating everything, we wouldn't have 10% unemployment! I mean, really, who needs trees or clean water? We can all wear O2 tanks and drink bottled water. And if our health DOES deteriorate, it's okay, because these jobs will provide us with healthcare!
You are a moron. All republicians and the right wing want to do is destroy of planet. There with be nothing left for our kids and grandkinds if you idiots get your way.
SVC

Toledo, OH

#45 Jun 24, 2010
Stupid environmental regulations. Let's go back to the 50s when the EPA was just a hippy's wet dream. Yeah, there was raw sewage flowing down every river, and toxins were pumped into the air with no regard for health and safety. You also didn't have OSHA forcing employers to run a safe workplace.
Bill

Stuart, FL

#46 Jun 24, 2010
Fed up with Republicians wrote:
<quoted text>You are a moron. All republicians and the right wing want to do is destroy of planet. There with be nothing left for our kids and grandkinds if you idiots get your way.
Left wing liberal wackos have developed the ability to tell the big lie with cunning & skill. They have found if they tell a big enough lie to enough people often enough there are bound to be some morons who will believe their lies. Fed up is attempting to continue that long tradition.
Fed up with Republicians

Westerville, OH

#47 Jun 24, 2010
Bill wrote:
<quoted text>Left wing liberal wackos have developed the ability to tell the big lie with cunning & skill. They have found if they tell a big enough lie to enough people often enough there are bound to be some morons who will believe their lies. Fed up is attempting to continue that long tradition.
No, your the idiots for believing the lies that come out of drug ball Rush and Glen Beck. Your the stupid ones!
Fed up with Republicians

Westerville, OH

#48 Jun 24, 2010
Bill wrote:
<quoted text>Left wing liberal wackos have developed the ability to tell the big lie with cunning & skill. They have found if they tell a big enough lie to enough people often enough there are bound to be some morons who will believe their lies. Fed up is attempting to continue that long tradition.
You better get use to things changing. Your party is dying off in droves because of old age. People are fed up with republicians handing everything to the rich. Times are changing get use to it!
Bill

Stuart, FL

#49 Jun 24, 2010
Fed up with Republicians wrote:
<quoted text>No, your the idiots for believing the lies that come out of drug ball Rush and Glen Beck. Your the stupid ones!
Thank you Left wing liberal wacko.
Diogenes

Groveport, OH

#50 Jun 24, 2010
Ohio Patriot wrote:
If Ohio starts a race to the bottom with Indiana over who has the weakest air rules, we have hit rock bottom on our state's concern for the natural world. Stickland is awful, awful, awful on environmental policy - he is just playing out Bob Taft's third term, if not worse.
There is such a thing as balance. If the EPA has complete reign then there will be no jobs in Ohio, if business has complete reign the environment will become unlivable. However, since none of the previously called "Third World Counties," do not have to impose any environmental protection laws, our laws wii be like, "pi**ing in the ocean, they will not make a darn bit of difference to the world environment. Trust in what is inspected not in what is expected!
Diogenes

Groveport, OH

#51 Jun 24, 2010
DrC Ohio wrote:
We need more information than this article supplies. What are the changes the company do and what type of pollution reductions are they getting compared with what the regs say? What type of and how many violations has this business had in the past.
Ohio Patriot hit it on the head-we don't need a race to the bottom. We need a governor that understands the consequences of a heavily polluting plant/industry. Health impacts and environmental impacts need to carry the same weight as the so-called "jobs" argument. My gut tells me this company is trying to capitalize on an election year.
Cap and Trade is just another money grab for the politicos. It will give them the opportunity to offer more favors for cash!
Diogenes

Groveport, OH

#52 Jun 24, 2010
DrC Ohio wrote:
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So let the race to the bottom continue! If we used our influence we would be able to affect change in China and elsewhere, but out political leaders don't have the guts to. All you business-whining cry babies only care about one thing-making money in the short term. Smart business realize they can make money AND be responsible.
Oh, please! China doesn't care about our lives or our lifestyles. We owe them so much they can almost dictate their own way with the UN. All these stupid stimulous packages and bailouts were paid for by Chinese money. They stay a most favored nation even though they have poisoned our pets with antifreeze used as a sweetner in pet food and have sent lead and cadmium products via children's products. The Chinese know we don't have enough inspectors to check all the shipments so the roll the dice and still get a lot of inferior products through. As for being a cry baby you can only make money in today's society if the dam* government doesn't put you out of business with their bureacratic insane laws. Wake up, it's a long way to the bottom of the pile and when we get there even you will be whining and crying.
Diogenes

Groveport, OH

#53 Jun 24, 2010
DrC Ohio wrote:
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So you don't think the US has any influence over china? Come on! The amount of goods we purchase from that country is astronomical. They need us in order to facilitate their growth. You talk about a "progressive spending spree" which is ludicrous. If Obama did not bail out the auto industry Ohio would probably have an unemployment rate of 20%.
Again, I don't understand why there are so many short-sighted folks out there who continually blame clean air and water regulations on destroying business. It is simple mot the case. But, keep the blinders on, and keep living in the past you moron.
You say we are blind but look at all the bureacratic BS going on at all levels of government in this country. Come on open your eyes we have been sold out to the highest bidder by both parties. We can have clean air and water with some sane regulations but if the EPA keeps going Ohio will be pristine because no one will be living here. No jobs and no sense here in Ohio.
Diogenes

Groveport, OH

#54 Jun 24, 2010
DrC Ohio wrote:
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LMAO! anti-business at the Statehouse? Get a clue bub! The R's controlled the Statehouse for years. The still have control over the Senate. Last time I checked, they are NOT anti-traditional business.
BTW, you left out the obvious fact that the bottom fell out of the steel industry in the 70s which took a toll on Ohio jobs. Additionally, crappy trade rules (thank you Mr. Portman) that incentives jobs being shipped over seas.
Business creates jobs, governments create unsustainable unions. You're forgetting NAFTA and GAFT passed by the Republicans and signed into law by President Clinton!
Diogenes

Groveport, OH

#56 Jun 24, 2010
ohio lawyer wrote:
The reality in Ohio is that we have neurotoxins in every waterway in the state from coal -- doing brain damage to our kids. Atrazine from farms in our drinking water. A giant disgusting mat in Lake Erie that is killing life there because state officials dont have the guts to go after ag pollution.
And idiot headlines like this from a paper that doesnt have the vaguest idea in the world what's going on, and doesnt care.
EPA lawyer? Does that include the toxins we ship in from other countries, that our children sleep with, wear on their bodies, and eat?
Diogenes

Groveport, OH

#57 Jun 24, 2010
Fed up with Republicians wrote:
<quoted text>You better get use to things changing. Your party is dying off in droves because of old age. People are fed up with republicians handing everything to the rich. Times are changing get use to it!
You wish!
Diogenes

Groveport, OH

#58 Jun 24, 2010
Fed up with Republicians wrote:
<quoted text>You better get use to things changing. Your party is dying off in droves because of old age. People are fed up with republicians handing everything to the rich. Times are changing get use to it!
Take off your emotional hat and put on your thinking hat, I think that will help you develop some patience with people that disagree with you! You might also try anger management. I don't want you too pop a vessel!

Since: Aug 09

Columbus, OH

#59 Jun 24, 2010
I did not get enough information from the article to form an opinion one way or the other. I would like more information about this regulation and the machine and what kind of pollution it reduces.
skipsailing28

Akron, OH

#60 Jun 28, 2010
Years ago San Diego's only fortune 500 company threatened to leave because dealing with the state, city and county was just too difficult.

the city's mayor responded in an interesting way. She appointed a concierge whose job it was to assist businesses when dealing with the bureaux.

while this didn't solve the underlying problem it placated the employer.

The liberals have, typically, engaged in a sky-is-falling response to those who see the employers point of view. I wonder how many of them are living on the dole and hence don't care what happens to jobs in Ohio.

and why does Ohio need its own EPA? Isn't on overbearing, expensive and ineffective bureau enough? Afterall we already have the feds version of EPA

Since: Oct 09

Columbus, OH

#61 Jun 28, 2010
Diogenes wrote:
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You say we are blind but look at all the bureacratic BS going on at all levels of government in this country. Come on open your eyes we have been sold out to the highest bidder by both parties. We can have clean air and water with some sane regulations but if the EPA keeps going Ohio will be pristine because no one will be living here. No jobs and no sense here in Ohio.
Please out of the last 20 years the OEPA has been run by a republican appointee. Yes there is some b.s there, but it has been friendly towards business as shown by Ohio's bottom ranking in terms of air pollution and other areas.

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