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There are 26 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Sep 8, 2010, titled Ohio factory workers hope contract vote saves jobs | The Columbus D.... In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Workers at an Ohio auto parts plant that is slated to close will vote on a new contract this weekend.

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Ohio Resident

Galion, OH

#1 Sep 8, 2010
WHat Auto Company is this? I will NEVER buy another auto from a cheesy company that holds moving over the employees heads.
Juannieboy

Columbus, OH

#2 Sep 8, 2010
Just the American Auto Workers Unions last gasp attempt to save jobs it placed in jeporady in the first place. Suggest its leaders try to understand the concept of "competition".
dog

Columbus, OH

#3 Sep 8, 2010
strickland & unions = jobs moving out of ohio
Bob

Buford, GA

#4 Sep 8, 2010
Ohio Resident wrote:
WHat Auto Company is this? I will NEVER buy another auto from a cheesy company that holds moving over the employees heads.
I think they supply components to manufacturers.
Enough Already

Loveland, OH

#5 Sep 8, 2010
Very interesting info from the Indy Star, who is reporting that regulation is one of the reasons the company is moving from Ohio to Indiana - that and the money provided, of course:

http://www.indystar.com/article/20100811/BUSI...
just my opinion

Grove City, OH

#6 Sep 8, 2010
Imagine that...another local labor union pricing itself out of work. Hey teachers unions, are you paying attention?
Union economics

Westerville, OH

#7 Sep 8, 2010
The unions are just clueless to the economics side of business.

They have the same lame rhetoric that if jobs move out of state or overseas it is not their fault.

It is their fault. The unions have massive overstaffing and protectionism that prevents businesses from being efficient and cost effective.

Unions should be thankful that any jobs above minimum wage is still around. Go ahead unions and keep giving your union member money to democRATs and you will be broke also.
Phu Bai Joe

AOL

#8 Sep 8, 2010
Enough Already wrote:
Very interesting info from the Indy Star, who is reporting that regulation is one of the reasons the company is moving from Ohio to Indiana - that and the money provided, of course:
http://www.indystar.com/article/20100811/BUSI...
Thanks for the article link! I fail to understand why some other responders are so quick with an opinion that has no basis in fact. The attack on unions is unintelligent and does not recognize that the both population and the economy were strongest when unions were strong.

The newspaper points out that a regulation dealing with pollution is the issue. Many companies move where they don't have to do the right thing for the public and where the government is weak. Should the plant eventually move, make sure that you have no property down wind from it.
Enough Already

Loveland, OH

#9 Sep 8, 2010
Phu Bai Joe wrote:
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Thanks for the article link! I fail to understand why some other responders are so quick with an opinion that has no basis in fact. The attack on unions is unintelligent and does not recognize that the both population and the economy were strongest when unions were strong.
The newspaper points out that a regulation dealing with pollution is the issue. Many companies move where they don't have to do the right thing for the public and where the government is weak. Should the plant eventually move, make sure that you have no property down wind from it.
You're quite welcome. I found it to be a very informative article.
Buckeye Chuck

Columbus, OH

#10 Sep 8, 2010
Thanks Teddy ! 400,215 jobs lost under your watch. How are you going to spin this? Blame it on Wall Street or Trade agreements outsourcing jobs.
A source

Columbus, OH

#11 Sep 8, 2010
Enough Already wrote:
Very interesting info from the Indy Star, who is reporting that regulation is one of the reasons the company is moving from Ohio to Indiana - that and the money provided, of course:
http://www.indystar.com/article/20100811/BUSI...
Here's what I know: The company asked the union to take a $3.50 per hour pay cut and pay more medical insurance costs. The union refused. Right or wrong? It's a matter of opinion, but $3.50 per hour is $140/week and about $7000/yr. That's a huge pay cut and I doubt if any of us would WILLINGLY go for it.

The state told the company it could be relieved of the environmental regulation, which is geared to similar types of factories. The company was told to fill out an application to get their permit changed but has never done so. That seems to be the company's fault, not the state's. You want a motorcycle endorsement on your driver's license and the state says sure, just fill out this application. You don't fill out the application and then you complain the state won't give you the motorcycle permit. Yea, that makes sense.

Read this for what it is: A move to bust a union and a move to get millions of dollars from Indiana because the company is too lazy to be competitive in a free enterprise market. Corporate welfare at its finest!
wwwTheNBXpressco m

Philadelphia, PA

#12 Sep 8, 2010
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bigkahuna

Lancaster, OH

#13 Sep 8, 2010
I guess those tax breaks for the rich do work...For Indiana. Look Ohio has some of the highest Workmans Comp rates, high corporate taxes, a wasteful state govt and unions push wages higher than in private sector and the work force is more often than not less effective,efficient,lazier and demand more for less. The regulations on businesses have gotten ridiculous and when other states and more likely other countries are going to provide better business/ corporate environments people should not be surprised when the businesses decide to close or move.

Its simple. CUT govt spending, reduce /freeze idiotic pay structures and benefits for state workers. Then reduce workers comp rates. Eliminate waste, fraud and departments that we dont need.

Cut corporate taxes and make the state friendly to business. Businesses will hire more, profit more, pay more taxes and other businesses will be more likely to stay here, move here or start /build here.

Lawsuit abuse reform needs to be a major part of the corrections as well.
whatever

Perrysburg, OH

#14 Sep 8, 2010
It's another effort by the company to make more money for corporate and make everyone else look bad. They were going to move anyway. It's the regulators fault so they got an exception and can pollute the air as much as they want. Now they want workers to take a pay cut AND pay more for health insurance and they probably will agree to it hoping to keep working while the greedy b*st*rds at the top make more money. Wait and see...One of these days the headline in an Indiana paper: "New plant wants workers to make big concessions like they will in Ohio" Corporate greed....
traveler

Washington Court House, OH

#15 Sep 8, 2010
Buckeye Chuck wrote:
Thanks Teddy ! 400,215 jobs lost under your watch. How are you going to spin this? Blame it on Wall Street or Trade agreements outsourcing jobs.
Or it could be blamed on George Bush!! obama does it every time he opens his lying,socialistic, marxist mouth.
the truth

Greenbrier, AR

#16 Sep 8, 2010
Ted kills more jobs just saying.
no2unions

United States

#17 Sep 8, 2010
Enough is enough. Unions have put many manufacturing plants out of buisness over the years. Weak management does not help either. People act like these buisnesses should stay here like they owe it to the workers! What about the consumer? Prices go up when their wages go up! Who will be able to afford the products made here? Outsourcing overseas has helped keep costs down for many of us.
Phu Bai Joe

AOL

#18 Sep 8, 2010
bigkahuna wrote:
I guess those tax breaks for the rich do work...For Indiana. Look Ohio has some of the highest Workmans Comp rates, high corporate taxes, a wasteful state govt and unions push wages higher than in private sector and the work force is more often than not less effective,efficient,lazier and demand more for less. The regulations on businesses have gotten ridiculous and when other states and more likely other countries are going to provide better business/ corporate environments people should not be surprised when the businesses decide to close or move.
Its simple. CUT govt spending, reduce /freeze idiotic pay structures and benefits for state workers. Then reduce workers comp rates. Eliminate waste, fraud and departments that we dont need.
Cut corporate taxes and make the state friendly to business. Businesses will hire more, profit more, pay more taxes and other businesses will be more likely to stay here, move here or start /build here.
Lawsuit abuse reform needs to be a major part of the corrections as well.
So you say workers comp is too high. I would ask, compared to what? Like any insurance policy "you get what you pay for". And if you compare Indiana rates to Ohio's, then you're right. But for the injured worker, the Buckeye stands to be less devastated financially than his Hoosier counterpart.

As for state workers, it would appear that you would like to see minimum wage paid to your food inspectors, highway patrolmen, national guardsmen, workplace safety inspectors, park rangers, health inspectors, EPA field people, agriculture regulators (want more Buckeye egg Farms?) etc. Don't you want professionals doing those jobs well? If so you should pay them a wage to interest them in public service. But then , if you just want cheap then don't complain about the quality of servent you get! I wonder how much less the members of the Supreme Court will take.

Concerning regulations that are unnecessary, I ask which ones? Speed limits, building codes, electrical requirements, how about agricultural runoff into our state parks? Perhaps, we can eliminate fire codes, air pollution requirements, standards for bridge construction and allow contaminants to engulf all work places. I simply ask you and John Kasich to specify which "dumb regulations" are you so cavalierly willing to throw out?

Finally, I've experienced the "benefit" of cutting corporate taxes. Before the (CAT Tax cut) my community of Minster didn't have an income tax. But after that became effective, Dannon Yogurt, Minster Machine and Precision Strip factories here paid less so we residents have to make up the difference with a previously uneeded tax
bumper sticker

Mount Hope, OH

#19 Sep 8, 2010
They talk about Ted like he's a lap dog.
Because he is.
matt

Hilliard, OH

#20 Sep 8, 2010
Hey workers! why don't you work for minimum wage. Oh wait! let's abolish minimum wage. Who needs benefits. Let's work for nothing and be the GOP's whipping boys. Just back down and let Big Biz have what ever it wants. The rich getting richer. People go overseas and see how these people work. The conditions, the hours, the sweat shops. Then wonder why these people don't form a union. The party of family values walks over anyone to give itself any value.

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