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There are 173 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jul 31, 2009, titled Signs aid safety, hurt tickets Safety up, revenue lags with war.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Welcome signs at the Naperville city limits advertise the population , an overnight street parking ban and something far less typical: the town's status as "A Red Light Photo Enforced Community." Naperville is one of the rare cities that posts warnings about red-light camera at its borders, even though research shows it makes the cameras more ...

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Since: Jul 09

Chicago, IL

#167 Aug 5, 2009
RJF wrote:
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Maybe you should start from scratch and learn our language starting with your ABC's. Again, you're trying to put words into my mouth. I said most drivers go a little over the speed limit. I never said I go into a fit of rage if a driver in front of me is doing the speed limit.
So what's your first language? Ö¿Ö
No you said this: "if you choose to be stubborn and go exactly the speed limit you're going to cause road rage."

You keep bringing up road rage as a result of responsible drivers, whereas I simply stated that your inability to deal with responsible drivers is your problem not theirs.

Please don't accuse me of putting words in your mouth, while you are doing exactly that.

In fact, I don't remember using 'going into a fit of rage' as a response to your, or anyone else's, post.

By the way, when you have to dedicate one entire post to 'sorry about all the typos' you also might want to keep your criticism of someone else's language skills to a minimum.
moreofthesame

Edwardsburg, MI

#168 Aug 5, 2009
We need camera's to enforce the no cell phone while driving ban. It would generate much more revenue than red light camera's.
Anon

Nashville, TN

#169 Aug 5, 2009
moreofthesame wrote:
We need camera's to enforce the no cell phone while driving ban. It would generate much more revenue than red light camera's.
It would keep the cops busier than a one legged man in a ....well you heard it before.
RJF

United States

#170 Aug 5, 2009
Alg Palin wrote:
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No you said this: "if you choose to be stubborn and go exactly the speed limit you're going to cause road rage."
You keep bringing up road rage as a result of responsible drivers, whereas I simply stated that your inability to deal with responsible drivers is your problem not theirs.
Please don't accuse me of putting words in your mouth, while you are doing exactly that.
In fact, I don't remember using 'going into a fit of rage' as a response to your, or anyone else's, post.
By the way, when you have to dedicate one entire post to 'sorry about all the typos' you also might want to keep your criticism of someone else's language skills to a minimum.
It doesn't take much logic to figure out what I'm talking about. Unfortunately though, it's more than what you have.

Yes, slow drivers cause road rage with some people NOT EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE PLANET. I do not like slow drivers. But I have enough self control to avoid road rage with them. You will not find any post of mine stating anything to the contrary.

If I were to state that guns cause murders, with your logic you would state that I go around killing people....eh?

Your chamber clearly doesn't have all its' bullets if you know what I mean.
Allison L

Westchester, IL

#171 Aug 6, 2009
RJF wrote:
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It doesn't take much logic to figure out what I'm talking about. Unfortunately though, it's more than what you have.
Yes, slow drivers cause road rage with some people NOT EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE PLANET. I do not like slow drivers. But I have enough self control to avoid road rage with them. You will not find any post of mine stating anything to the contrary.
If I were to state that guns cause murders, with your logic you would state that I go around killing people....eh?
Your chamber clearly doesn't have all its' bullets if you know what I mean.
Drivers who obey the posted speed limiy are not slow drivers. Those drivers who exceed posted speed limits are self-centered law breakers. Speeders are the problem. Those who obey the laws are avoiding the nutcase speeders, who care only for themselves and not society in general.
RJF

United States

#172 Aug 6, 2009
Allison L wrote:
<quoted text> Drivers who obey the posted speed limiy are not slow drivers. Those drivers who exceed posted speed limits are self-centered law breakers. Speeders are the problem. Those who obey the laws are avoiding the nutcase speeders, who care only for themselves and not society in general.
Where are all you self righteous people coming from? Only a small percentage of drivers do exactly the speed limit. Even cops rarely ticket people who do 5-10 over the limit. And, to say those who slightly exceed the limit are selfish people, does border on absurd.

You're probably one of those who does exactly 55 in the left lane of an expressway, to slow down all those behind you, rather than moving to the right land like you should. If that's the case you would be the selfish driver.

Since: Jul 09

Chicago, IL

#173 Aug 7, 2009
RJF wrote:
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Where are all you self righteous people coming from? Only a small percentage of drivers do exactly the speed limit. Even cops rarely ticket people who do 5-10 over the limit. And, to say those who slightly exceed the limit are selfish people, does border on absurd.
You're probably one of those who does exactly 55 in the left lane of an expressway, to slow down all those behind you, rather than moving to the right land like you should. If that's the case you would be the selfish driver.
So now your assumption about someone who chooses to follow the law, and not bend it because the cops allow them to, is a bad and inconsiderate driver?

By the way, your grip on logic is the one that is tenuous at best. You don't like where your statements lead, and then back-peddle. You attribute poor behavior to everyone but yourself.

Interesting.
RJF

United States

#174 Aug 7, 2009
Alg Palin wrote:
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So now your assumption about someone who chooses to follow the law, and not bend it because the cops allow them to, is a bad and inconsiderate driver?
By the way, your grip on logic is the one that is tenuous at best. You don't like where your statements lead, and then back-peddle. You attribute poor behavior to everyone but yourself.
Interesting.
Nothing personal, but I think you're a lost cause.
A dead fish probably has a better grip than you.
Other than that....

Anyway, I just thought it was odd that somebody would flat out accuse somebody of being selfish because they drive slightly over the limit.

Meanwhile, if somebody doing 55 on the expressway stays to the right, no problem. If they block faster drivers in the left lane, I think they're selfish. Any questions?

Since: Jul 09

Chicago, IL

#175 Aug 7, 2009
RJF wrote:
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Nothing personal, but I think you're a lost cause.
A dead fish probably has a better grip than you.
Other than that....
Anyway, I just thought it was odd that somebody would flat out accuse somebody of being selfish because they drive slightly over the limit.
Meanwhile, if somebody doing 55 on the expressway stays to the right, no problem. If they block faster drivers in the left lane, I think they're selfish. Any questions?
Hey cat, it is amazing the change in tone since your first post on this subject. You must not be angry about your latest ticket anymore.

If you look back you blame red light cameras, those who adhere to the speed limit, and any other driver who follows the law for the selfish, and outright aggressive driving that happens on the road.

And, no I am not the guy who goes 55 in the left hand lane, that is really dangerous.

But I am also not the guy who gets busted for breaking traffic laws and then posts here about how unfair it is.

If red lights perplex you then you shouldn't drive.
RJF

United States

#176 Aug 8, 2009
Alg Palin wrote:
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Hey cat, it is amazing the change in tone since your first post on this subject. You must not be angry about your latest ticket anymore.
If you look back you blame red light cameras, those who adhere to the speed limit, and any other driver who follows the law for the selfish, and outright aggressive driving that happens on the road.
And, no I am not the guy who goes 55 in the left hand lane, that is really dangerous.
But I am also not the guy who gets busted for breaking traffic laws and then posts here about how unfair it is.
If red lights perplex you then you shouldn't drive.
Maybe I'll have to learn sign language and try that, because English doesn't seem to work with you. For about the 100th time, I've gotten no tickets from the red light camera. I just happen to be a political activist who doesn't appreciate a government always finding ways of fleecing the public. Not enough effort is spent going after the drunk drivers, because they're too busy making money with the camera and with sneaky cops nabbing people with their radar guns, but ONLY with people doing more than 10 over the limit.

More money should also be spent to see if they can find a cure for retarded people. The day that happens you'll celebrate by buying a new pair of shoes. Then after you receive the cure, you'll even be capable of tying the laces.

Since: Jul 09

Chicago, IL

#177 Aug 9, 2009
Funny that you keep trying to indict my grasp of our language, while you make some pretty pedestrian mistakes yourself. I didn't suggest your getting ticketed by cameras, I simply say that you blame everyone but yourself.

Besides being a pompous blowhard who feels important enough to ignore laws that are inconvenient, you are also a hypocrite. Challenge my language skills while yours would embarrass a 7th grader. At least a 7th grader where I went to school.

Oh, and even 1 mph over the speed limit (limit, get it?) is a crime. So yes, if you drive faster than that you are literally a criminal.

Now go justify yourself, you deserve it. You are awesome!
RJF

United States

#178 Aug 9, 2009
Alg Palin wrote:
Funny that you keep trying to indict my grasp of our language, while you make some pretty pedestrian mistakes yourself. I didn't suggest your getting ticketed by cameras, I simply say that you blame everyone but yourself.
Besides being a pompous blowhard who feels important enough to ignore laws that are inconvenient, you are also a hypocrite. Challenge my language skills while yours would embarrass a 7th grader. At least a 7th grader where I went to school.
Oh, and even 1 mph over the speed limit (limit, get it?) is a crime. So yes, if you drive faster than that you are literally a criminal.
Now go justify yourself, you deserve it. You are awesome!
Well unless you keep your eyes glued to your speedometer 100 percent of the time to make sure you NEVER go over the limit I guess like practically everybody else you're "literally" a criminal.

You also sound like the kind of drone who feels every law need to be obeyed. That being the case YOU are a criminal because it's still against the law in Illinois to speak the English language. Though in your case they might excuse you because you can barely do it. Ö¿Ö
But unless you contact the police when driving into town, you're also a criminal. Of course these last two laws are over 100 years old. But make sure you obey them, along with not driving your stagecoach in front of church on a Sunday.

Since: Mar 09

Wheaton, IL

#179 Aug 13, 2009
RJF wrote:
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Maybe I'll have to learn sign language and try that, because English doesn't seem to work with you. For about the 100th time, I've gotten no tickets from the red light camera. I just happen to be a political activist who doesn't appreciate a government always finding ways of fleecing the public. Not enough effort is spent going after the drunk drivers, because they're too busy making money with the camera and with sneaky cops nabbing people with their radar guns, but ONLY with people doing more than 10 over the limit.
More money should also be spent to see if they can find a cure for retarded people. The day that happens you'll celebrate by buying a new pair of shoes. Then after you receive the cure, you'll even be capable of tying the laces.
I hate to say but I can't sotp myself - you want to be political - mentally challenged is the correct term - Retarded is no longer acceptable

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