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Signs aid safety, hurt tickets Safety up, revenue lags with war...

There are 173 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jul 31, 2009, titled Signs aid safety, hurt tickets Safety up, revenue lags with war.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Welcome signs at the Naperville city limits advertise the population , an overnight street parking ban and something far less typical: the town's status as "A Red Light Photo Enforced Community." Naperville is one of the rare cities that posts warnings about red-light camera at its borders, even though research shows it makes the cameras more ...

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sankar

Palatine, IL

#2 Aug 2, 2009
i thought i saw such a sign in wheeling, when u enter it from west on Dundee
murph

Chicago, IL

#4 Aug 2, 2009
Welcome to Mayor Daley's police state, in the most corrupt city in the country.

Since: Apr 09

Chicago

#5 Aug 2, 2009
"Red light districts" aren't about safety. They are about revenue. Just ask the village officials in Broadview.
FLOW

AOL

#6 Aug 2, 2009
Just what we need ... one more type of "Big Brother."

In my opinion, the red light camera system certainly does not prevent rear end collisions. In fact, I believe the cameras CREATE more of them!
Will

Elmwood Park, IL

#7 Aug 2, 2009
Wow...this article has almost nothing to do with Daley and/or Chicago. Naperville is not run by Daley. I am definitely not a fan of the guy, but let's get off the bandwagon and RTFA.

That being said, I'm a little surprised by these findings. I know I rarely pay attention to the city signs on the side of the road, let alone any secondary signs that are posted to them. You always see the ones posted on the stop light poles themselves.
RJF

Carol Stream, IL

#8 Aug 2, 2009
The mainstream media is trying to tell us these cameras actually prevents accidents? LOL

Well so would not driving altogether. This is just another excuse to fleece consumers. What next? Hefty fines for jaywalking to save lives?

If the state was so concerned about saving lives, how come motorcycle drivers don't have to wear helmets?

Since: Dec 07

Chicago, IL

#12 Aug 2, 2009
NoConservativePropaganda wrote:
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Oh, I feel your pain dude. One can't drive in this country & blow a red light & get away with anymore. What next, speed traps?
Exactly, because everyone knows that excessive speeding results in more lives saved. Maybe we should take away all stop lights/signs and speed limits, sure will make things a lot easier right?
dave

Black Canyon City, AZ

#13 Aug 2, 2009
Naperville just thinks they are great for some reason. All that sign means is that big brother is watching!!!!!
NoLiberalLooneyP ropaganda

Chicago, IL

#14 Aug 2, 2009
The article is saying that putting signs up before you hit the intersection that has the cameras has actually reduced accidents. Its proving that their #1 priority is actually, yes, preventing accidents.

Unless the leftist Democrat machine does this in Chicago, its nothing more than a money grab by the liberals as usual.
dave

Black Canyon City, AZ

#15 Aug 2, 2009
speaking of helmet laws, I will not wear a seatbelt until all states have helmet laws. driving 110mph in tank top, sandals and shorts and no helmet I just wait to see the guys dump their bikes. Force me to wear a seatbelt surrounded by 4 tires and a bunch of metal, but not make someone on 2 wheels do something safe, makes one think.
Mike

Arlington Heights, IL

#16 Aug 2, 2009
You should make sure all cars are out of the intersection before you step on the gas at the sight of a green.
Reality wrote:
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I will! Just this evening I saw another car intentionally speed up to run a red light. If I'd pulled out when my light turned green I'd be dead at this moment!
Put them on every light and make the fines $1000! There is no excuse for the type of red light running that is occuring where people have plenty of time to stop, but speed up instead!
People who intentionally run red lights and kill someone should be charged with murder. I consider this a worse offense than a drunk driver who causes an accident.
People need to slow down (car speed and their self important "life")!
Cathy

Arlington Heights, IL

#17 Aug 2, 2009
For the people who defend these cameras, how can you defend someone getting a ticket for stopping over the white line on a 90 degree turn? Half the time you can't even see the cars coming unless you go OVER the line? Or people who turn right on red when they are the only car in the intersection?
Hit-n-Run

Arlington Heights, IL

#18 Aug 2, 2009
Put the lights up all over. They know the odd's of a cop seeing them are slim so they do it. I watched 3 a---holes at 3 differant locations run though red lights last Friday. Remeber..thats A--HOLES as they are too stupid to know the differance between the color of the lights.
Holden Mcgroinne

Nashville, TN

#19 Aug 2, 2009
I never realized how many thoughtless losers who think they have a right to put other's lives in danger speed through redlights . I see about 5 red light runners a night at Hollywood and Sheridan. My building is right on the corner and at night, when the camera shoots them, the light flash is so bright It flashes in my apt.

i can only imagine how many happen in the day when I don't see the flashes

I wonder though if these cameras don't cause a lot of d-bags to slam the brakes at the last minute. I hear about 3-5 screeching halts at this interection daily. Most of them so extreme that probably half their tires on the road
Will

Elmwood Park, IL

#20 Aug 2, 2009
Cathy wrote:
For the people who defend these cameras, how can you defend someone getting a ticket for stopping over the white line on a 90 degree turn? Half the time you can't even see the cars coming unless you go OVER the line? Or people who turn right on red when they are the only car in the intersection?
As much as I hate to say it, but that's the law, and has been for god only know how many years. Well before we had red light cameras.

The "proper and legal" way to make a right turn on red (assuming there are no "no turn on red signs", of course) is to stop before the white line, then creep up.

I know it's not how I personally do it, along with like 99.9995% of the population, but that's how we were taught in drivers ed.
Zoe

Chicago, IL

#21 Aug 2, 2009
I only wish cameras could be placed at every stop sign. In my Lincoln Square neighborhood, approx. 85% of the cars fail to stop at stop signs, even if pedestrians are present.

The intersection of Leavitt and Giddings is particularly dangerous, despite being right in front of a church. Many drivers use Giddings to avoid lights on Lawrence. Often, cars don't even bother to slow down at the intersection, let alone stop, despite the presence of the a big red stop sign.

Since: Dec 07

Chicago, IL

#22 Aug 2, 2009
Cathy wrote:
For the people who defend these cameras, how can you defend someone getting a ticket for stopping over the white line on a 90 degree turn? Half the time you can't even see the cars coming unless you go OVER the line? Or people who turn right on red when they are the only car in the intersection?
Cathy, you get clocked when the light is red and you cross the white line. If you are already out there you don't get caught. You should rest easy now that you know this.
Simple

United States

#23 Aug 2, 2009
Aside from some rather poor sentence structure in the article, I find that I have to agree with the law side of it. If you are too ignorant to stop at a red light, perhaps you should not drive, or breed. The easiest way to not get a ticket is to follow the law. Big Brother? Please... Why don't most (sane) people steal from stores with cameras? This is not a new concept; if you don't want to get caught stealing, don't steal. If you don't want to get a ticket from the red light camera, follow the law. I wish I had some flashcards I could give you, or maybe a puppet show using very small words...
Jim

Lisle, IL

#24 Aug 2, 2009
Want to reduce accidents? Make the yellow light 1 second longer.

But that's free, and doesn't generate tickets, so it will never happen.
Cathy

Arlington Heights, IL

#25 Aug 2, 2009
Would a cop give you a ticket for stopping over the white line? No. What about turning right on red when you are alone in the intersection? Probably not. Not all laws are reasonable. Do people go 60 in a 55? Yes. Do they all get tickets? No.
Will wrote:
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As much as I hate to say it, but that's the law, and has been for god only know how many years. Well before we had red light cameras.
The "proper and legal" way to make a right turn on red (assuming there are no "no turn on red signs", of course) is to stop before the white line, then creep up.
I know it's not how I personally do it, along with like 99.9995% of the population, but that's how we were taught in drivers ed.

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