Hoosac Wind Appeal stalls wind project

Hoosac Wind Appeal stalls wind project

There are 13 comments on the North Adams Transcript story from Apr 1, 2009, titled Hoosac Wind Appeal stalls wind project. In it, North Adams Transcript reports that:

A group of residents and state environmentalists will appeal the court decision that cleared the way for a 30-megawatt wind turbine project on Bakke Mountain in Florida and Crum Hill in Monroe.

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Lookin For Sympathy

Hartford, CT

#1 Apr 1, 2009
So, here we have it, folks - tyranny of the minority!

Here's a bunch of tree huggers who see fit to spend taxpayer money foolishly by going to court because the judge who ruled on their motion didn't know what the hell he was talking about and neither does the Commonwealth of MA.

If we charged these dumb@sses for court costs, lawyers' fees and all after the initial judgment, do ya think they'd be here today pulling this crap?

All of the nihilists, after the fall of the commies, who had nothing else to do, took up their green mantles and are now attempting to terrorize and dominate average Joe Sixpack by shamelessly squandering taxpayer funds pursuing their frivolity.

When are we gonna wake up and put an end to this? Surely this no longer resembles democracy in action!
No Sympathy

Springfield, MA

#2 Apr 1, 2009
Throw the laws of the commonwealth under the bus so a buch of greenies, can feel good about destroying our natural resources with flashing lights 24/7, by handing out corporate welfare, to one of the most profitable energy companies on earth. The taxpayers should put an end to thi swindel.
tricky dick

AOL

#3 Apr 1, 2009
Nothing new here, just another Greylock Glenn!!
thought

Williamstown, MA

#4 Apr 1, 2009
at least we now have 12-18 months to figure it out
dont taze me bro

Shutesbury, MA

#5 Apr 1, 2009
Lookin For Sympathy wrote:
So, here we have it, folks - tyranny of the minority!
Here's a bunch of tree huggers who see fit to spend taxpayer money foolishly by going to court because the judge who ruled on their motion didn't know what the hell he was talking about and neither does the Commonwealth of MA.
If we charged these dumb@sses for court costs, lawyers' fees and all after the initial judgment, do ya think they'd be here today pulling this crap?
All of the nihilists, after the fall of the commies, who had nothing else to do, took up their green mantles and are now attempting to terrorize and dominate average Joe Sixpack by shamelessly squandering taxpayer funds pursuing their frivolity.
When are we gonna wake up and put an end to this? Surely this no longer resembles democracy in action!
"Surely this no longer resembles democracy in action!"
Damn good thing because we live in a REPUBLIC.

Wind power, like solar, is a net loser in the energy equation. Yet those who stand to gain from it would have those gains subsidized by those who would gain nothing.

Yeah, that sure is "democracy", just like the two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. Thank God for the republican sheep who are well armed with the means of resisting that crap.
yeah right

Easthampton, MA

#6 Apr 1, 2009
No Sympathy wrote:
a buch of greenies, can feel good about destroying our natural resources with flashing lights 24/7
Wind power destroys natural resources. That's right. Blowing the tops off mountains to get coal to produce electricity doesn't destroy natural resources. Wind turbines do. Exactly what 'resources' get destroyed with wind power? Do you think that we take the wind out of the sky and then *poof* the wind disappears or something?

Ohhhhh... it's the 'flashing lights' that are the problem. Yeah, they're a huge problem for the NIMBY crowd, but for people who are able to see one inch beyond their self interest, it's really not that much of a concern.
fly on da wall

Shutesbury, MA

#7 Apr 1, 2009
yeah right wrote:
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Wind power destroys natural resources. That's right. Blowing the tops off mountains to get coal to produce electricity doesn't destroy natural resources. Wind turbines do. Exactly what 'resources' get destroyed with wind power? Do you think that we take the wind out of the sky and then *poof* the wind disappears or something?
Ohhhhh... it's the 'flashing lights' that are the problem. Yeah, they're a huge problem for the NIMBY crowd, but for people who are able to see one inch beyond their self interest, it's really not that much of a concern.
scroll up.

"Wind power, like solar, is a net loser in the energy equation. Yet those who stand to gain from it would have those gains subsidized by those who would gain nothing."
Tax Payer

Wynantskill, NY

#8 Apr 2, 2009
It is all about the money. People are having their pockets picked by the energy companies. Wind power is more expensive because it requires a back like a natural gas plant. Wind does not blow during summer heat waves when demand is highest. Wind depends on government subsidies from the taxpayers. So people pay to make it profitable for the energy companies and pay more in higher rates. It is only good if you are on the recieving end of sucking money out of peoples pockets.
chbpod

United States

#9 Apr 2, 2009
yeah right wrote:
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Wind power destroys natural resources. That's right. Blowing the tops off mountains to get coal to produce electricity doesn't destroy natural resources. Wind turbines do. Exactly what 'resources' get destroyed with wind power? Do you think that we take the wind out of the sky and then *poof* the wind disappears or something?
Ohhhhh... it's the 'flashing lights' that are the problem. Yeah, they're a huge problem for the NIMBY crowd, but for people who are able to see one inch beyond their self interest, it's really not that much of a concern.
The coal mines are already there-nothing you can do about it----thw windmills are not--who benefits from a wind factory--maybe the town which houses them in terms of taxes --maybe the owner of the land- certainly the wind company---anyone else?? NOPE--it's a scam--just like global warming.
yeah right

Easthampton, MA

#10 Apr 2, 2009
chbpod wrote:
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The coal mines are already there-nothing you can do about it----thw windmills are not--who benefits from a wind factory--maybe the town which houses them in terms of taxes --maybe the owner of the land- certainly the wind company---anyone else?? NOPE--it's a scam--just like global warming.
I was wondering how long it would take for you to show up and start playing the global warming card (apparently the only one you have to play, it appears). We've been down this road before on other Topix blogs, and you may want to take note once and for all that I never mentioned global warming. You did.

This is not about global warming. It's about the undeniable fact that all of the resources we currently use for energy - be it coal, oil or nuclear - are limited.

I can hear you already revving up the "We've got lots of oil out there if we'd just drill" argument. And you're right to an extent. There is MORE oil out there that is not being tapped. But it will run out too - sooner rather than later considering the ever steeper demand curve.

I realize that this is a hard concept to come to grips with for the nearly dead who don't give a damn what happens to human civilization 100 years or more down the road. But some of us have a slightly longer view than our own self-interest and realize that if mankind does not start looking at alternative, renewable sources of energy now and developing them now, it's going to be too late when the well runs dry.

GOD, why is that so difficult a concept to understand?

But don't worry, wind foes. As long as the Kennedy Klan kontrols the kommonwealth with its aversion to anything that 'ruins the view' from Hyannisport, the NIMBYS will hold sway.
chbpod

United States

#11 Apr 2, 2009
yeah right wrote:
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I was wondering how long it would take for you to show up and start playing the global warming card (apparently the only one you have to play, it appears). We've been down this road before on other Topix blogs, and you may want to take note once and for all that I never mentioned global warming. You did.
This is not about global warming. It's about the undeniable fact that all of the resources we currently use for energy - be it coal, oil or nuclear - are limited.
I can hear you already revving up the "We've got lots of oil out there if we'd just drill" argument. And you're right to an extent. There is MORE oil out there that is not being tapped. But it will run out too - sooner rather than later considering the ever steeper demand curve.
I realize that this is a hard concept to come to grips with for the nearly dead who don't give a damn what happens to human civilization 100 years or more down the road. But some of us have a slightly longer view than our own self-interest and realize that if mankind does not start looking at alternative, renewable sources of energy now and developing them now, it's going to be too late when the well runs dry.
GOD, why is that so difficult a concept to understand?
But don't worry, wind foes. As long as the Kennedy Klan kontrols the kommonwealth with its aversion to anything that 'ruins the view' from Hyannisport, the NIMBYS will hold sway.
Oh great guru Gore acolyte---tell me please where wind turbines have replaced the more normal producers of electricity-- i.e. oil- coal- nukes----I concede that you did not mention global warming-----however- that is the mantra of most advocates of windmills----so what the hell is your point??? will we run out of oil- coal?? probably-- our coal suppies are good for 400 years---neither of us will be around and neither will our children or grandchildren---I like nukes---clean------you are so concerned about "mankind" what the hell is that??? does that include the China and India??? tell them to stop putting coal fired plants on line--- you want to take everything away from Americans--turn sovereignty over to the UN---and I am thinking about the future---these wind scams bode abject poverty for our country--of course you probably live on a farm---and can eat turnips--and pass the gas down to your progeny---what a maroon- chbpod
yeah right

Easthampton, MA

#12 Apr 2, 2009
chbpod wrote:
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Oh great guru Gore acolyte---tell me please where wind turbines have replaced the more normal producers of electricity-- i.e. oil- coal- nukes----I concede that you did not mention global warming-----however- that is the mantra of most advocates of windmills----so what the hell is your point??? will we run out of oil- coal?? probably-- our coal suppies are good for 400 years---neither of us will be around and neither will our children or grandchildren---I like nukes---clean------you are so concerned about "mankind" what the hell is that??? does that include the China and India??? tell them to stop putting coal fired plants on line--- you want to take everything away from Americans--turn sovereignty over to the UN---and I am thinking about the future---these wind scams bode abject poverty for our country--of course you probably live on a farm---and can eat turnips--and pass the gas down to your progeny---what a maroon- chbpod
Last time I checked, mankind includes every country. And last time I checked, you still hadn't honed that argument since a previous blog when I pointed out that just because China and India are uninterested in thinking about the future, it doesn't mean this nation should ignore it as well.

It's kind of like this argument: Just because you are uninterested in anything that happens beyond your own puttin-out-to-pasture life, it doesn't mean the rest of us have to be so nearsighted.

Relinquished sovereignty, abject poverty ... you sure are good at setting up wild-eyed, unsubstantiated bogeyman arguments. But none of them have the least bit to do with the only point I've been making, which is: The selfish, idiotic fear of a few people that their precious 'views' might be marred should not be allowed to stand in the way of progress ... EVEN if those people live on Florida Mountain or Hyannisport.
chbpod

United States

#13 Apr 2, 2009
yeah right wrote:
<quoted text>
Last time I checked, mankind includes every country. And last time I checked, you still hadn't honed that argument since a previous blog when I pointed out that just because China and India are uninterested in thinking about the future, it doesn't mean this nation should ignore it as well.
It's kind of like this argument: Just because you are uninterested in anything that happens beyond your own puttin-out-to-pasture life, it doesn't mean the rest of us have to be so nearsighted.
Relinquished sovereignty, abject poverty ... you sure are good at setting up wild-eyed, unsubstantiated bogeyman arguments. But none of them have the least bit to do with the only point I've been making, which is: The selfish, idiotic fear of a few people that their precious 'views' might be marred should not be allowed to stand in the way of progress ... EVEN if those people live on Florida Mountain or Hyannisport.
You are so divorced from reality that it's pathetic---so we do our part---and what good does it do---you are probably one of those Twinkie Winkies that have CFLs---makes you feel good - but doesn't make a dent---look is you want to deny your descendants with a lower life style----and comparatibe poverty-- hold to your position-- but you are not doing them a favor------do most Americans want to cut their income in half to feed Africa?? I don't think so--so you don't care about what China and India does--WE have to do it---moroon-- you are so sloppy in your syrup that you have no idea what you are talking about-- maroon- chbpod

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