Poor turned away from cancer screenings

You think it's bad now wait untill big brother takes over healthcare.

My God you might have to pay for something; you need or want. Heaven forbid.

Tell me; if someone gave you a dollar what would you do to note require another dollar from them? Nothing; you would simply expect that dollar and any other 'service' the government provides via taxes with no regard for the taxpayer footing the bill.

Just Natural Selection at work here: Get a job, earn money, pay for your own healthcare, live longer; be lazy, not have job and can't pay for preventative procedures, die earlier.

Right that's my point the only people that this new healthcare bill is going to benefit is the poor and lazy poverty class.

Are you crazy? Those same people you're describing can afford cigarettes, booze and other drugs to feed their Nasty habbits but they can't afford heathcare? We have mass health for those people. Why should I be forced to pay for someone who's made bad choices? And it's the middle class that work hard and are always shit on. The poor poverty class welfare rats have it made.

So let me get this straight... They NEED to get an exam, because they consider themselves high risk, even though the doctors don't.... and they are complaining that they have to pay for it?

Last few times I went to the Dr & Dentist, I was expected to pay for it. I didn't cry or freak out, I took out my wallet, and paid for it.

Yes, that money is hard earned, but its better spent on my health, than 'bling'.

re: Angry young man.

When you start your first job, and realize that at bare minimum 1/3 of your paycheck is stollen from you with threat of force if you refuse, and given to the rejects of the community so that they can go out and buy booze, drugs, spinners for their tires, gold colored rims... You will quickly change your tone.

Simply put, the people that expet 'free everything' from the government, are the same ones that can't make proper choices.

Even animals can figure out how to get food & shelter without a hand out, why can't humans?

These people want US to pay for it!!!!!

Pro gun wrote:

Right that's my point the only people that this new healthcare bill is going to benefit is the poor and lazy poverty class.

what about the people layed off or hours drastically cut so their benefit know longer is available, how about these people. get over yourself some people are doing the very best for themselves yes and there are people who take advantage of the system.

For those of you who think it's the "poor and lazy" in need of free healthcare, here's a clue: it's really the under-employed. You know, those who used to be the middle class in this country.
Once upon a time, we had full time jobs with benefits; If we have jobs at all, many of us got cut back to part time--no benefits anymore -- and now we work 4 or 5 or 6 "part-time" jobs to make ends meet. Hardly lazy, and hardly earning enough to pay $15K a year the crooks at the insurance companies want. I pray all of you judgemental folks don't lose your benefits, especially if you get sick and the insurance crooks drop you like a hot potato!

It is the under-employed who lack health insurance and we're the only first world country that tolerates it.

The ultra-conservatives in this country are terribly upset that Obama is so popular all around the world (whereas Canada considered blocking Dubya as a war criminal)... and they don't even realize that it's their selfish comments -- "I've got mine; let the poor die and decrease the surplus population" attitude -- that makes Obama look so good he got the Nobel Peace Prize.

They helped give it to him!

I'm not talking about peoe who work 6 jobs I'm talking about the leeches who DON'T work at all and want it all handed to them. Those are the poor lazy folks I'm talking about. If you're working more than one job obviously you're not lazy and you deserve affordable healthcare. Stop being so defensive.

This truly Blows dirt into the faces of many. We all should be able to have hope for a chance for life if ever a cure were found for Cancer. Now the poor have even less chance for survival from the deadly disease purely disastrous Future outlook for us all. Pray for hope and change in the future people..It may be the only chance.

anonymous wrote:

This truly Blows dirt into the faces of many. We all should be able to have hope for a chance for life if ever a cure were found for Cancer. Now the poor have even less chance for survival from the deadly disease purely disastrous Future outlook for us all. Pray for hope and change in the future people..It may be the only chance.

You're right Anonymous.

anonymous wrote:

This truly Blows dirt into the faces of many. We all should be able to have hope for a chance for life if ever a cure were found for Cancer. Now the poor have even less chance for survival from the deadly disease purely disastrous Future outlook for us all. Pray for hope and change in the future people..It may be the only chance.

I grew up in the '40s and '50s when damn few had "health insurance".

Doctor's visits (mine even made house calls then) were reasonably priced, as was hospital care. Nobody went without, but very few consulted a doctor over the trivial crap seen today. Skyrocketing costs and rates came with the increasing government involvement in the process as well as widespread abuse of insurance plans. I have both seen it and lived it, so don't try to "tell" me.

You want to be disease free, then keep a clean lifestyle, take care of yourself and STAY HEALTHY.

I have also seen first hand that cancer / oncology is big business that has grown from its beginnings with the involvement of the Rockefeller, Ford and Carnegie Foundations with Big Pharma who makes BILLIONS from the chemotherapy poisons foisted upon the desperate dying.

G. Edward Griffin, WORLD WITHOUT CANCER lays out the whole story in documented, bibliographied fashion. It's likely at your local library. Read it -- or not -- and learn why cancer "screenings" are mostly business generators for the oncology racket.

Of course oncology is big business. So are hospitals and health insurance. MEDICINE is big business. To single out oncology is intellectually dishonest.

Who are going to doctors for "trivial" reasons, what are those trivial reasons, and how has that caused our health care crisis?

A lot of our health crisis has come from the fact that we have moved so far forward in our treatment. When my dad was 50 they didn't have bypass surgery or angioplasty. When my mother had breast cancer they had almost no chemotherapy and certainly not for women like her with small tumors whose cancer had not spread (yet; although she was lucky and it did not); no radiation treatment; no AI's; no Herceptin. All of those things save lives; they are all tremendously expensive.

We didn't have effective intensive neonatal units. Babies born at seven months lived or died with far less expensive medical support. We could all go on and on and on.

One result is that life expectancy has been greatly extended. That also means we have more older people needing more expensive medical care.

The statement "You want to be disease free, then keep a clean lifestyle, take care of yourself and STAY HEALTHY" is ... ABSURD.

None of us is going to live forever. A "clean lifestyle" will help but not prevent you from ever being ill. Neither will "taking care of yourself," and you can't stay healthy all your life. We are all going to die some day, and very often we will be sick first.

It's not our faults if we get sick, and it isn't our faults medical care has gotten so expensive. It's also not a grand conspiracy. Those are simplistic and shallow explanations.

Gail Perry wrote:

Of course oncology is big business. So are hospitals and health insurance. MEDICINE is big business. To single out oncology is intellectually dishonest.
Who are going to doctors for "trivial" reasons, what are those trivial reasons, and how has that caused our health care crisis?
A lot of our health crisis has come from the fact that we have moved so far forward in our treatment. When my dad was 50 they didn't have bypass surgery or angioplasty. When my mother had breast cancer they had almost no chemotherapy and certainly not for women like her with small tumors whose cancer had not spread (yet; although she was lucky and it did not); no radiation treatment; no AI's; no Herceptin. All of those things save lives; they are all tremendously expensive.
We didn't have effective intensive neonatal units. Babies born at seven months lived or died with far less expensive medical support. We could all go on and on and on.
One result is that life expectancy has been greatly extended. That also means we have more older people needing more expensive medical care.
The statement "You want to be disease free, then keep a clean lifestyle, take care of yourself and STAY HEALTHY" is ... ABSURD.
None of us is going to live forever. A "clean lifestyle" will help but not prevent you from ever being ill. Neither will "taking care of yourself," and you can't stay healthy all your life. We are all going to die some day, and very often we will be sick first.
It's not our faults if we get sick, and it isn't our faults medical care has gotten so expensive. It's also not a grand conspiracy. Those are simplistic and shallow explanations.

Sooo, don't live a healthy lifestyle. Go ahead and eat all the GMO crap you want; you are what you eat and whatever you allow into your body. Your "faults" is that you are unwilling to accept responsibility for staying healthy.

Or, read the book and get a handle on the roots of disease. You may just change your thinking from the brainwashed ideas you currently possess, and in the process learn just which one of us is "shallow".

P.S. Gail Perry, you make a lot of unfounded blanket statements that you expect to be taken as truth. Try backing them up with facts.

Then read the book. Perhaps then we can talk.

FWIW, I have never in my entire three score and ten been hospitalized. Coincidence? I highly doubt it.

I am sorry that you were not taught proper English "Angry Young Man." In order to have anyone take you seriously, this day and age, you must be able to convey yourself in a coherent and serious manner. These skills are important if you actually want to help these women. As opposed to posting a comment on some story you happen to find on the Internet, why don't you volunteer or donate to the ACS? This goes for all of you viewing this. Stop masturbating your self-conscious by commenting on forums on the Internet and do something productive. Also, obviously this is a failure of the public education system, let's donate to the "Angry Young Man" Education Fund.

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