flat tax

West Mifflin, PA

#50863 Jul 9, 2013
The real problem is the top brackets are set too low relative to where the money is. The top-most bracket starts at $375,000 a year. People with incomes higher than that pay 35 percent – again, only on that portion of their incomes exceeding $375,000.

This is absurd. It means a professional who’s making, say,$380,000 a year pays the same income-tax rate as a plutocrat pulling in $2 billion or $20 billion.

Our current flat tax at the top is treating the nation’s professional class exactly the same as it treats super-rich plutocrats. I dont recall any poor politician making ther laws. The rich make the laws to benefit them. Any ass can agree with that
WARNING WARNING

Louisville, KY

#50864 Jul 9, 2013
Exactly. After giving you a lecture of truths he posts an opinionated libheaded blog only a true nitwit would cite as truthful.
flat tax wrote:
<quoted text>Once again this is one's man opinion and not fact...therefore to you ,you believe it,so it must be right.

Since: Jun 08

Not Waynesboro or Hagerstown

#50866 Jul 9, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
So what's the connection between incompetent bureaucrats and Obama's legacy?
Oh wait - this is just more of Legacy's typical BS - blaming the President for everything bad that happens in the world.
Like your BHS (Bush Hating Syndrome).

You've done, and do it to this day.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50868 Jul 9, 2013
flat tax wrote:
<quoted text>Once again this is one's man opinion and not fact...therefore to you ,you believe it,so it must be right.
There is a difference between fact and opinion.

It is a fact that the poor will pay more under a flat tax and the rich will pay less. That is a fact.

The opinion is - that's wrong and unfair.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50869 Jul 9, 2013
GenPatton wrote:
<quoted text>
Like your BHS (Bush Hating Syndrome).
You've done, and do it to this day.
I bash Bush every day here?

You are lying.

The only time I bring up Bush is when rightwingers blame Obama for things Bush did or when rightwingers feign outrage for Obama doing the same thing Bush did (when they had no trouble with it then).

I'm not bashing Bush. I'm bashing the hypocritical right who can't take responsibility for the disaster their policies caused.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50870 Jul 9, 2013
WARNING WARNING wrote:
Just another opinion blog among thousands you have posted proving once again that you are a mindless robot for your government God.
Both sides are corrupt and the American people have very little faith with them. You on the other hand continually make excuses and flat out lies to protect the nanny state you desire. If Obama says it, its gospel to you.
All your blog had to do was claim a flat tax would hurt the poor and your robotic liberal mind computes it to be bad. Might be time for you to re boot. <quoted text>
A flat tax will hurt the poor and help the rich. That is not a "claim" - that is a fact.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50871 Jul 9, 2013
WARNING WARNING wrote:
Exactly. After giving you a lecture of truths he posts an opinionated libheaded blog only a true nitwit would cite as truthful. <quoted text>
Opinions based on facts.

What do you have? Opinions based on lies.
flat tax

West Mifflin, PA

#50872 Jul 9, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a difference between fact and opinion.
It is a fact that the poor will pay more under a flat tax and the rich will pay less. That is a fact.
The opinion is - that's wrong and unfair.
you have me mixed up with someone else i merely was saying EVERYONE pay a flat tax, i dont care if its 2%,10% or 50%.make it across the board.......... thats the fairest way,is it the sympathy of the poor fair.......well no.....but it is fair for all... someone shouldnt get a free ride all their lives without contributing...people ask me if i give to any charities....i say yep......the federal government....and it's more than 10% of my salary
flat tax

West Mifflin, PA

#50873 Jul 9, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a difference between fact and opinion.
It is a fact that the poor will pay more under a flat tax and the rich will pay less. That is a fact.
The opinion is - that's wrong and unfair.
so someone making 100 million pays a flat tax ..say 5%,,,,,and the poor that make almost nothing say.......20K pays the same flat tax......why is that not fair? do you want the poor to pay nothing at all?...so we should all be poor, then where does the governemnt get their money to run the country?
where does the gov get money to give to the poor. do you want the rich to pay everyones way?..... thats fair?

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50874 Jul 9, 2013
The BHO Legacy wrote:
Obama is faulted on leadership
07/09/13
Supporters and critics of President Obama are looking for leadership on many pressing issues from the White House, but many believe they are not getting it.
On Monday, Obama held a Cabinet meeting and spoke about his effort to modernize government databases.
He avoided public remarks on several matters seen as more pressing, such as turmoil in Egypt and the wider Middle East, faltering efforts to reform immigration in the U.S. and the rocky implementation of ObamaCare. Instead the president spoke to a small group of reporters about his efforts to improve databases and make government more efficient.
“We’re working to make huge swaths of your government more transparent and more accountable than ever before,” Obama said at the White House.
Even to the most loyal Obama supporters, the move seemed irrelevant, even odd.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/30...
Yes, for some irrational reason the press likes to believe that if the President would just work harder and show more leadership, the GOP would stop being totally obstructionist on everything and begin to actually do their jobs.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50875 Jul 9, 2013
flat tax wrote:
<quoted text>you have me mixed up with someone else i merely was saying EVERYONE pay a flat tax, i dont care if its 2%,10% or 50%.make it across the board.......... thats the fairest way,is it the sympathy of the poor fair.......well no.....but it is fair for all... someone shouldnt get a free ride all their lives without contributing...people ask me if i give to any charities....i say yep......the federal government....and it's more than 10% of my salary
Everybody who works in this country pays taxes. Every flat tax proposal I've seen takes more from the working poor and less from the rich. If that's what you want, fine. Just don't call it fair.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50876 Jul 9, 2013
flat tax wrote:
<quoted text>so someone making 100 million pays a flat tax ..say 5%,,,,,and the poor that make almost nothing say.......20K pays the same flat tax......why is that not fair? do you want the poor to pay nothing at all?...so we should all be poor, then where does the governemnt get their money to run the country?
where does the gov get money to give to the poor. do you want the rich to pay everyones way?..... thats fair?
Start with $100 million and $20,000.

Then subtract living expenses including housing, food, clothing, heat, transportation, child-care, and payroll taxes.

At the end of the day,$100 million has $99.9 million left and the $20,000 has nothing left.

And you want to take an additional 5% off the top of the working poor? How is that fair?

You don't know anybody that's actually poor, do you?

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50877 Jul 9, 2013
flat tax wrote:
<quoted text>you have me mixed up with someone else i merely was saying EVERYONE pay a flat tax, i dont care if its 2%,10% or 50%.make it across the board.......... thats the fairest way,is it the sympathy of the poor fair.......well no.....but it is fair for all... someone shouldnt get a free ride all their lives without contributing...people ask me if i give to any charities....i say yep......the federal government....and it's more than 10% of my salary
LOL! You can't actually believe that ALL your federal taxes go to help the poor. Be serious.

For your tax dollars, you get good roads, clean water, clean air, safe medicines, safe food, national security, a good education, a criminal justice system, fire and police protection, safe working conditions, a secure monetary system, safe and effective energy production, free and fair elections, safe air, ship, and rail travel, a strong import/export system, a strong economy, and much, much more.

Taxes are the cost of living in the greatest country on the planet. You get a lot for your money, so why pretend that it's all going to loafers when the facts clearly show otherwise?
bobby6464

Portland, OR

#50878 Jul 9, 2013
The racial hating tea bags want all that for free. There is nothing free in america tea bags. They want and want. Propor prior planning prevents piss poor performance racial hating tea bags, learn that before the mid terms Limbaugh nut juice guzzlers, ahhhhhhhhhhhh them morons ahhhhhhhh dingle berry tea bags searching for a charity

Since: Jun 08

Not Waynesboro or Hagerstown

#50879 Jul 10, 2013
bobby6464 wrote:
The racial hating tea bags want all that for free. There is nothing free in america tea bags. They want and want. Propor prior planning prevents piss poor performance racial hating tea bags, learn that before the mid terms Limbaugh nut juice guzzlers, ahhhhhhhhhhhh them morons ahhhhhhhh dingle berry tea bags searching for a charity
except for your health care and you President Obama Phone.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50880 Jul 10, 2013
GenPatton wrote:
<quoted text>
except for your health care and you President Obama Phone.
I will never understand why you CHOOSE to believe objectively false things.

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They’re Reagan Phones, Not Obama Phones

There’s been a lot of social commentary and criticism lately about a discounted or free telephone program for low income people that has picked up the nickname “Obama phones.”

But did you know the history of this program dates to two previous presidents?

And the service isn’t funded by taxpayer dollars.

The discounted, sometimes free, wireless services that started to become available to low income households in 2005, under George W. Bush’s administration, is an expanded and updated version of the Lifeline telephone service program that launched in 1985, under Ronald Reagan’s administration.

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2013/jan/15/th...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50882 Jul 10, 2013
The BHO Legacy wrote:
‘Obama phones’ given to those who would sell them for drugs
June 18, 2013
An undercover video from conservative activist James O'Keefe shows corporate “Obama phone” distributors handing out the devices to even those who ask if they can be sold for drug money.
The video was taken in May, the Daily Mail reported.
The phone program was aimed at supplying poverty-level Americans with a means of applying for jobs, contacting emergency responders and soliciting assistance for their children. It’s a project of the Federal Communications Commission that’s grown considerably in the past couple years; in 2012, its expenses hit $2.19 billion, the Daily Mail said.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/...
They are Reagan phones.

The service is not funded with tax dollars.

This incident has nothing in the world to do with President Obama.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50883 Jul 10, 2013
Here are the FACTS:

Congressman’s Slippery Cell Phone Claim
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/05/congressmans...

The Obama Phone?

Q: Has the Obama administration started a program to use "taxpayer money" to give free cell phones to welfare recipients?

A: No. Low-income households have been eligible for discounted telephone service for more than a decade. But the program is funded by telecom companies, not by taxes, and the president has nothing to do with it.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-ph...

Of course the FACTS mean nothing to the rabid rightwing, whose only remaining agenda is to blindly attack the President no matter what he does.

Even if that means telling bald-faced lies over and over and over again in the desperate hope that people will eventually believe them (a la Joseph Goebbels, their propaganda mentor).

Since: Jun 08

Not Waynesboro or Hagerstown

#50884 Jul 10, 2013
I'm sure glad President Obama has not increased or expanded ANY programs.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50885 Jul 10, 2013
GenPatton wrote:
I'm sure glad President Obama has not increased or expanded ANY programs.
I sure wish you could respond to what people actually post rather than the strawmen you'd prefer to argue with.

I guess that's just the natural side-effect of believing a failed political ideology - you can't have an honest debate because it would reveal your moral and intellectual bankruptcy.

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