Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

Nov 30, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: CBS2

The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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The government DOES NOT treat all equally.
Grow up!
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Hahahah what nonsense. Life does not treat all people equally, that doesn't mean the government doesn't have to.
You could justify the worst of crimes with that logic.
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observation wrote:
The government DOES NOT treat all equally.
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You're right, and they should. I don't get you're point.

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Discriminate?
Oh look, Kimare's sock puppet is back. Someone said something to piss her off, so she dragged out CHL (Drool Gland Puke).
I will get you

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Ash and fe are a sweet couple. They are perfect together so happy for them.
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observation wrote:
I keep seeing "the government must treat all people equally"..........that statement is both untrue and
unrealistic.
There is NOTHING fair about life.
Actually, equal protection under the law IS guaranteed to all Americans, unless there is a valid state interest to do otherwise.
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Amen!

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The law trumps personal beliefs about what marriage is, has been, or should be.
Legally, marriage it is a fundamental right of all persons.
The only eligibility requirement for fundamental rights is being human.
Reasonable restrictions may be made only when a compelling and legitimate governmental interest can withstand judicial scrutiny. Most can agree with the courts that reasonable restrictions include age, ability to demonstrate informed consent, and not being closely related or currently married. Within those limits, gay people qualify. Gender restrictions have been shown to be irrational and harmful.
Procreation ability has never been a requirement for marriage, and therefore fails as a legitimate excuse for denial of equal treatment under the law. Yet even that irrational excuse for discrimination ignores the fact that gay people can and do reproduce, and are raising children either biologically related or adopted.
Denial of equal treatment under the law provides no benefit to opposite sex couple families. It only harms same sex couple families needlessly.
To equate rights, you have to establish identity.

At the most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Gay couples are clearly a defective contradiction to mating.

If you want to dumb down marriage to a friendship, you leave the distinction of mating behavior with no term, and redundantly equate marriage with friendship.

Simply silly stupid.

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KiMare wrote:
Gay couples are clearly a defective contradiction to mating.
Only straight people bear the curse of childbirth because they ate the forbidden fruit
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Genesis 3:16> Unto the woman he said, "I will greatly multiply thy sorowe and thy conception. In sorow thou shalt bring forth children: and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and hee shall rule ouer thee."
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Gays are exempt

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Rainbow Kid wrote:
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Only straight people bear the curse of childbirth because they ate the forbidden fruit
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Genesis 3:16> Unto the woman he said, "I will greatly multiply thy sorowe and thy conception. In sorow thou shalt bring forth children: and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and hee shall rule ouer thee."
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Gays are exempt
You are attempting (poorly) to use the Bible for a defense of evolution? Really.

According to the Bible, procreation was the original design. The consequence of eating the forbidden fruit was death.

The assertion that childbirth is a curse is silly stupid. Procreation is the sole source of human fruit. The species would disappear if it were dependent on gay couples...

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cool..now we can work on marrying our pet...

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... The species would disappear if it were dependent on gay couples...
Snicker.
But it's not, of course, and never would be. Any more than the survival of the species rests on those who are infertile, past childbearing age, or choose not to have children.

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To equate rights, you have to establish identity.
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Identity as human and American has already been established.

Next.

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cool..now we can work on marrying our pet...
When your pet can understand and sign a legal contract, you can marry it.

However, normal folks don't have your problem understanding the difference between humans and animals.
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cool..now we can work on marrying our pet...
Marriage establishes legal kinship
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What species is your pet?

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The species would disappear if it were dependent on gay couples...
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Gays would disappear if it weren't for str8 couples.

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But it's not, of course, and never would be. Any more than the survival of the species rests on those who are infertile, past childbearing age, or choose not to have children.
More specifically, here is the difference between non-childbearing heterosexual couples and gay couples;

The differences between marriage with/without kids and gay couples;
An apple tree bearing fruit.
An apple tree not bearing fruit for some reason.
An walnut tree who never bears any fruit wanting to be a apple tree.
An walnut tree hanging apples on it's branches pretending to be a apple tree.

The claim that if the government doesn't 'require' apple trees to bear fruit, then it is discrimination not to call walnut trees apple trees too is simply silly.

Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Gay couples do not just fail in the primary essence of marriage, out of all relationships, they are the oxymoron of marriage.

Moreover, if you remove the element of procreation, you dumb down marriage to just a friendship.

No offense, just being clear about what we are talking about.

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To equate rights, you have to establish identity.
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Identity as human and American has already been established.
Next.
On that qualification, any person, or persons, of any age would be married.

Kind of makes the word meaningless, don't you think?

Moreover, since the natural and healthiest place for child bearing has traditionally been within the bonds of marriage, and you want to now disqualify children from consideration so gays can qualify, what term would you use to distinguish marriages where the intent is to procreate?

According to numerous SCOTUS rulings, that setting deserves and demands special consideration.

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When your pet can understand and sign a legal contract, you can marry it.
However, normal folks don't have your problem understanding the difference between humans and animals.
So the handicapped and illiterate don't qualify for marriage?

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Marriage establishes legal kinship
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What species is your pet?
Racial discrimination was already addressed.

You claim children are not an issue.

What harm can you prove?

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More specifically, here is the difference between non-childbearing heterosexual couples and gay couples;
The differences between marriage with/without kids and gay couples;
An apple tree bearing fruit.
An apple tree not bearing fruit for some reason.
An walnut tree who never bears any fruit wanting to be a apple tree.
An walnut tree hanging apples on it's branches pretending to be a apple tree.
The claim that if the government doesn't 'require' apple trees to bear fruit, then it is discrimination not to call walnut trees apple trees too is simply silly.
Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Gay couples do not just fail in the primary essence of marriage, out of all relationships, they are the oxymoron of marriage.
Moreover, if you remove the element of procreation, you dumb down marriage to just a friendship.
No offense, just being clear about what we are talking about.
Smile.
Oh hunty, absolutely every one of your opinions has been debunked previously. For instance, your assertion that removing procreation dumbs down a relationship to being just a friendship is pure BS. Further, it's insulting to millions of people who can't, or won't, have children.

Why do you continue to humiliate inner lesbian with this whole nutz and berries and twigs argument? It's tedious and ill-conceived. Do you think that SCOTUS would consider the use of this argument in a court?

Still out of Massingil douche. Can you ask the missus to pick up some more.

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