Illinois State students getting squee...

Illinois State students getting squeezed out of dorms

There are 27 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Feb 13, 2008, titled Illinois State students getting squeezed out of dorms. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

State University junior Mike Laier finds comfort in his dorm life. He pours his energies into his accounting studies in the ninth-floor lounge at Hamilton Hall, walks to his classes and catches quick meals at ...

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Chicago, IL

#1 Feb 13, 2008
Which dorms are being made historical-like? Someone let a one-time attendee know. Thanks.

Normal, IL

#2 Feb 13, 2008
Dunn-Barton and Walker are getting demolished to make way for a rec center.

“Age&Treachery over Youth&Skill”

Since: Dec 07

Brighton Park 60632

#3 Feb 13, 2008
A 23 y.o. still in the dorm. What a wanker!

ISU grad
too old

Chicago, IL

#4 Feb 13, 2008
First off, juniors and seniors should live off campus. It's time for them to grow up and become more adult.

Also, the article said: "The cinder-block-style, cramped dorms built in the '60s and '70s are being remodeled to reflect what students these days want."

I can tell you, from working on a college campus, that what the students WANT (Desired amenities these days include suites with study areas, single bedrooms and bathrooms) isn't what they NEED, especially as freshmen. Our campus has 2 buildings with suite-style housing and 2 buildings with common bathrooms. The students in the common bathroom buildings are retained FAR more than the others, report having more friends, higher GPAs and an overall happier campus experience.

College kids should not be "catered to", especially in their first and second years. Juniors and seniors should be encouraged to move off campus and make the adjustment to real life while still being in school and having the support of university staff.
Shaun Deola

Missoula, MT

#5 Feb 13, 2008
Tearing down walker and Dunn Barton seems like a crime. Great location for easy access to just about everything.
SD (ISU Class of 1979)

North Aurora, IL

#7 Feb 13, 2008
ISU is really on a roll, both academically and as a beautiful campus; when one sees the master plan, it will be even more spectacular when new construction is finished. I hate to see older buildings torn down, but this is a price of progress.

I know some universities have too much dorm space that is no longer used (most move to apartments), and this is a big problem too. ISU is doing the right way.

Illinois' first state university has come a long way!
bobby joe colbart

United States

#8 Feb 14, 2008
A 23 yr old complaining about being kicked out of his dorm. Is this for real?
Bill in Hoffman

United States

#9 Feb 14, 2008
What dorms are being torn down?

Chicago, IL

#10 Feb 14, 2008
bobby joe colbart wrote:
A 23 yr old complaining about being kicked out of his dorm. Is this for real?
Hey, he needs to stay somewhere until his parents have the basement ready for him to move into...
Lara Mormino

Saint Louis, MO

#11 Feb 14, 2008
True, if this guy has lived in the dorm for all of his years at ISU...he really does need to get out. But if he's like me...I was on the four and a half year plan because I changed my major. I went back to the dorms for the fall semester before I graduated in December because it was the most economical for me. And, do you realize how hard it is to find an apartment that has 6 month leasing that's not a total shithole? Granted, when I did have an apartment, it still wasn't a palace but it was what I could afford for a place that only does 12 month leasing (I had to get a subleasor for the summer because I couldn't afford to stay all summer). Maybe things have changed since I've been there (only about 4 yrs ago), but I looked at a lot of places in comfortable walking distance from where my classes were and a lot of them I wouldn't want my worst enemy to live there.

Normal, IL

#12 Feb 14, 2008
Well here's a 19-year old complaining (unless that is also too old to be living in the dorms). Giving us 6 months to find an apartment AND a subleasor (for those of us who are going to try for the few dorm spots) is just rediculous. And besides all that, I can't afford living in an appartment, since I'm already in a substantial amount of debt...
Too old

Normal, IL

#13 Feb 14, 2008
I know of a 23 year old individual living in the dorms. He's only a freshman because he went right into the army after high school, but he is getting kicked out too. Does he need to grow up as well?

Lisle, IL

#14 Feb 14, 2008
I think the situation of the army, then college, thing isn't the norm. A 23 year old junior seems a little odd. Also, when did living in the dorm become a given right? You'd think they'd want their own places off campus. But wait.... then, they'd have to get jobs .....
(why yes, I did work when I was in college and this allowed me to live off-campus).
Rights vs choice

Normal, IL

#15 Feb 14, 2008
It's not so much an issue of having the right to live on campus, but to have the choice. You're right, the high school->army->college situation isn't the norm, but there are a number of other stories like his and ISU is ignoring all of them. Even students with disabilities are being told to live off campus; one person who I know personally has difficulty walking long distances but has no car for transportation to campus if he were to get an apartment.
Growing up

Normal, IL

#16 Feb 14, 2008
The reason why its not a big deal for this Ashley girl is because she HAS a place to stay, she is living with her sorority, so she didn't have to take time out of her life and become stressed about actually finding an apartment. She hasn't grown up either.
Growing up

Normal, IL

#17 Feb 14, 2008
Some of the dorms are nice enough to live in for the 4 years of college. It's easier for some students to stay on campus, because then they don't have to travel far away or anything. Dorm's are meant for ALL CLASSES. So stop saying that juniors and seniors don't have a right to live in the dorms. They do.
Im just a little child

Normal, IL

#18 Feb 14, 2008
How is a student's desire to save money for future student loan debts an irresponsible or un-adultlike act?
If I live in an apartment, I don't get a refund check at the end of the semester for all the groceries I didn't eat, in the dorms I do.
From a purely economic standpoint, the dorms are a cheaper place to live for me.

Normal, IL

#19 Feb 14, 2008
I guess they haven't thought of letting the more important upperclassmen pick first. Accept less students next year, it's as easy as that.
Possibly Transferring

Palos Heights, IL

#20 Feb 14, 2008
Hi. I would just like to leave my comment without getting anyone upset.

I was planning on living on campus next year, but apparently that has all changed. While upper-classmen are given the option to put their name on a waiting list, there is no gaurauntee of getting a room. And if they do, it will possibly be with a freshman or sophomore roommate (which can be a problem bc FOR THE MOST PART frosh/sophs take Gen. Ed. classes while Jr/Sr's take classes for their major which are generally harder and require more studying). Also, many of these apartments are far from campus and there is not transportation to the campus. Finally, I personally did not appreciate getting a letter starting with "It is an exciting time to be on the Illinois State University Campus..." when being told that I am pretty much screwed out of a room.

Those are just my thoughts. I am sorry if I offended anybody.

Normal, IL

#21 Feb 14, 2008
There's a guarantee if you put in the application first.

Which will be mine.

Because I'm not looking for an apartment.

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