TSA director at Norfolk International...

TSA director at Norfolk International Airport accused of not fo...

There are 24 comments on the WTKR story from Jan 25, 2010, titled TSA director at Norfolk International Airport accused of not fo.... In it, WTKR reports that:

One of the TSA directors in charge of security screening at Norfolk International Airport has been accused of not following the screening procedures.

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Leader

Chesapeake, VA

#1 Jan 25, 2010
Lead by example!
Common Sense

United States

#2 Jan 26, 2010
No one should be above the rules.

Shouldn't a TSA Agent be the Quality Assurance
for the process; meaning go through it for Quality Improvement and to assure the public the system is working?
Tom

Flushing, NY

#3 Jan 26, 2010
So, can I do the same? The TSA seems to know that their secondaries are useless waste of time so I would like to decline my next secondary, too.
Trish

Virginia Beach, VA

#4 Jan 26, 2010
In November my husband and I went through security at Norfolk Intl. and were in line to board our plane and were pulled out of line because we were "randomly" chosen for a second screening. I have no problem with this except for the fact that the TSA employee who searched our belongings and patted us down told us that the reason we were chosen is because he was a "hairorist" and my husband has long hair. I wanted to say alot more than I did at the time but what was I to do.... we were boarding a plane and would miss it if they decided I was a mad passenger or something. Anyway... my point here is, I can not believe these people get away with these things and that is why they do it because they feel they have the power to and nothing can be done about it. Good for the employee who reported the TSA director for not following procedure.
Carl

Virginia Beach, VA

#5 Jan 26, 2010
I went through security checkpoints many times at Norfolk Int'l Airport and so far I had no problems. I also carry-on two bags, one wheeled one and a small bag of CPAP (sleep aid) machine and I open it for TSA agent to have a look at because I trust that person and was doing their job. As for this latest incident news, I hope they investigate this report, get it resolved and move on.
John

Greensboro, NC

#6 Jan 26, 2010
"Don't you know WHO I AM?" the bureaucrat screamed.
Brain

Kernersville, NC

#7 Jan 26, 2010
Come on people - not enough secuity? or too much security? Either way people complain about it. People complain if they do get randomly checked, but if something happened people get mad cause they were not checked
Local Federal Employee

Virginia Beach, VA

#8 Jan 26, 2010
Larry is a retired Secret Service agent and a very professional law enforcement agent. I have known him for several years. He is cream of the crop. I am sure the complaint is nothing.
mytitledontmakem e

Norfolk, VA

#9 Jan 26, 2010
Local Federal Employee wrote:
Larry is a retired Secret Service agent and a very professional law enforcement agent. I have known him for several years. He is cream of the crop. I am sure the complaint is nothing.
That's why he should have been more than happy to go through screening. This is no way to lead a flock of people. You can't press these procedures on others and not want to go through it yourself. It looks like someone has a very big ego. This is something that he would probably punish his employees for wow...I didn't know that titles meant so much to people. Humble pie is always an option because it seems that he abused his authority as well as intimidated whoever decided to send him in for secondary screening... I hope he and others have learned from this big mistake and will be able to overcome it and learn to appreciate what the officers are doing.
Accountability

Hampton, VA

#10 Jan 26, 2010
I think the bottom line to this whole thing is that the Security Director did not follow the proper procedures without a doubt. A read a blog which is supposed to be from a Federal Security Employee whom stated that per the TSA procedures NO ONE is exempt from the process. If this is in fact true then the Security Director should receive some type of action against him. The TSA is stuck "between a rock and a hard place" because I'm sure that the management didn't expect anyone to let thier internal dirt out. If thier employees are to the point that they would call the press for help exposing an issue that from the outside seems to be minor, there is alot more going on at that airport. I haven't seen anything about Newport News International on here yet so I will be traveling through there for the next couple of days instead of Norfolk. Get this stuff resolved guys, I heard that the TSA was going to allow Unions which would have been great to help resolve stuff like this internally.
BUNNY

Virginia Beach, VA

#11 Jan 26, 2010
Why do people do whatever they want only because they think they can.......I have to do it you should too......
Tim

Tangier, VA

#12 Jan 26, 2010
Trish, you are a bold face lair!
Tim

Tangier, VA

#13 Jan 26, 2010
Local Federal Employee wrote:
Larry is a retired Secret Service agent and a very professional law enforcement agent. I have known him for several years. He is cream of the crop. I am sure the complaint is nothing.
Amen, Larry is a lead by example leader and the top of the cream of the crop. His accomplishment with the Secret Service and TSA are impressive.
Officer

Chesapeake, VA

#14 Jan 26, 2010
I know Larry Kumjian quite well. He is a fine man with exemplary character. Though I am never unhappy to see this wretched and quite comical organization go through its own public "screening" and scrutiny as of late(there are far better models for security!), it is highly unlikely that this alleged incident played out precisely as it is being reported and delineated in the news. In fact, I'm rather surprised that so many folks are digesting it hook line and sinker so capriciously. Far better news (and news investigation) would have inquired into the following veritable newsworthy items concerning TSA:
1) Their million dollar plus camera systems did not work for almost a year-- and officers were instructed to lie about it to the news media and public, 2) They have 'recycled' employees who failed their own testing systems repeatedly, 3) employees were never reprimanded or removed from duty after threatening others with violence 3) They've hired back supervisors who were arrested for DUI and hit-and-run 4) ad infinitum...

Do your home-work a little better next time WTKR before someone takes this to your competitors who may be interested in a much more palatable and veritable story.
Trish

Virginia Beach, VA

#15 Jan 27, 2010
Tim wrote:
Trish, you are a bold face lair!
Not sure what a "lair" is but I can assure you my story is not a lie if that is what you are implying. I didn't post my story for any other reason but to concur with the original story that some TSA employees evidentally feel the "power" enough to think they can act and say what they want without consequences. Have a great day.

Since: Oct 09

Cape Charles, VA

#16 Jan 27, 2010
Some people are obviously clueless as to the reasons and procedures that are used and followed for additional screening. Just in case you haven't been keeping up with the news, every time an incident occurs, whether it be in the USA or internationally, the procedures get shaken up to keep people guessing! The rule is, keep the bad guys guessing and stay one step ahead of them. A lot of travelers don't want to be inconvenienced, but as soon as something happens they are pointing their fingers at everyone in TSA/DHS and the Law Enforcement community for allegedly not doing their jobs. Some of the procedures have been going on for years and the clueless travelers still don't get it. Wake up, there are people out there trying to destroy our way of life.
TSO

Norfolk, VA

#17 Jan 28, 2010
Heck, I work for the place, and both times I have flown I have been selected for random screening. I have no problem with it.
Raoul Duke

Miami, FL

#18 Jan 28, 2010
Officer wrote:
I know Larry Kumjian quite well. He is a fine man with exemplary character. Though I am never unhappy to see this wretched and quite comical organization go through its own public "screening" and scrutiny as of late(there are far better models for security!), it is highly unlikely that this alleged incident played out precisely as it is being reported and delineated in the news. In fact, I'm rather surprised that so many folks are digesting it hook line and sinker so capriciously. Far better news (and news investigation) would have inquired into the following veritable newsworthy items concerning TSA:
1) Their million dollar plus camera systems did not work for almost a year-- and officers were instructed to lie about it to the news media and public, 2) They have 'recycled' employees who failed their own testing systems repeatedly, 3) employees were never reprimanded or removed from duty after threatening others with violence 3) They've hired back supervisors who were arrested for DUI and hit-and-run 4) ad infinitum...
Do your home-work a little better next time WTKR before someone takes this to your competitors who may be interested in a much more palatable and veritable story.
Concur 100%. I can personally vouch for Larry Kumjian's fine character. Let the investigation take its course. As for the 4 (well, 3) items that merit investigation...it the absolute truth that each one of those has indeed happened at Norfolk Int'l Airport, and some continue to occur to this very day; that's not even including the formal and informal complaints of sexual harassment against certain members of local TSA management. WTKR, there's a lot of dirt out there if you want it, but Larry Kumjian isn't where it's at (great job butchering his last name). Also, you might want to consider updating your graphics - TSA hasn't been a part of the Dept. of Transportation for about six years now. Gotta love hasty local newscasts. Cheers, fellas.
mytitledontmakem e

Norfolk, VA

#19 Jan 29, 2010
This airport has been screwed up for years...like a manager once said, we can't let the inmates run this prison. Upper management staff along with some others have been untouchable and constantly continue to harass the workforce. People are scared to speak out about what goes on with TSA at Norfolk Int'l Airport because they fear retaliation from management. Kudos to the person who called WTKR. Now, they need to do a full investigation on how workers are being treated at ORF. As far as Larry Kumjian he may be a good guy to some, but he is aware and behind a lot of the harassment at ORF he is just consider a behind the scenes type of guy and regardless the fact that he is retired secret service and the cream of the crop it doesn't take away the fact that he breached security and messed up. That is the matter at hand. If he had of completed the process like he was suppose to do none of this would be occurring now. If a supevisor or below had breached the security or did what Kumjian did they would have been fired. Good people can mess up too!
newsblogger

Chicago, IL

#20 Feb 2, 2010
I'm sure there is much more to this story than we know

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