EA-6B Prowler Responsible for Loud Noise in Charlottesville - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News...

[DANG]

Pam R wrote:

Ok, this was not just a loud noise. It was frightening! I looked out of the skylight in my bedroom expecting to see a belly of an aircraft! And it sounded like this aircraft was having serious mechanical problems. In fact I was seriously waiting for the impact in my neighborhood!
If the military is going to be training, could they use a different airport or perhaps a different approach!! Flying that low, and sounding like it is about to crash at any moment is not something you want over your town!!!!!!!

Yeah, keep those dirty, ugly, loud jets away from me and go train somewhere else. Meanwhile, you can continue to enjoy a safe and happy lifestyle while our military risks their lives for you. Stop your whining.

[Native]

Pam R wrote:

Ok, this was not just a loud noise. It was frightening! I looked out of the skylight in my bedroom expecting to see a belly of an aircraft! And it sounded like this aircraft was having serious mechanical problems. In fact I was seriously waiting for the impact in my neighborhood!
If the military is going to be training, could they use a different airport or perhaps a different approach!! Flying that low, and sounding like it is about to crash at any moment is not something you want over your town!!!!!!!

It would have been a whole lot more frightening if is had been one without the Star and Stripes affixed!

[buyerbeware]

The EA-6B aircraft was designed and built long before all the tree huggers and whiners put so many NIMBY noise ordinances in effect (it's a Vietnam era aircraft). So instead of paying for a replacement aircraft, these same "whiners" voted down any replacement with engines that are quieter, cleaner, etc. I think you got your money's worth out of the Prowler. So live with it or put up to replace it. If your "clunker" still runs and does the job you need it to do, and you whine about the cost of a new car, where's you problem?

[somewhere in va]

You Guys should try living in the outer Banks for the summer and hear v-22 ospreys fly over your cottage.

[thinking free]

buyerbeware wrote:

The EA-6B aircraft was designed and built long before all the tree huggers and whiners put so many NIMBY noise ordinances in effect (it's a Vietnam era aircraft). So instead of paying for a replacement aircraft, these same "whiners" voted down any replacement with engines that are quieter, cleaner, etc. I think you got your money's worth out of the Prowler. So live with it or put up to replace it. If your "clunker" still runs and does the job you need it to do, and you whine about the cost of a new car, where's you problem?

They need mothball all these over the hill jets. Like what purpose do they serve anymore with the tech stuff we have now. Definitely obsolete. Training you say? bull. You train with what your gonna fight with.

[Rusty]

Pam R wrote:

Ok, this was not just a loud noise. It was frightening! I looked out of the skylight in my bedroom expecting to see a belly of an aircraft! And it sounded like this aircraft was having serious mechanical problems. In fact I was seriously waiting for the impact in my neighborhood!
If the military is going to be training, could they use a different airport or perhaps a different approach!! Flying that low, and sounding like it is about to crash at any moment is not something you want over your town!!!!!!!

Go on down to city hall and file for disability on the grounds of anxiety and emotional stress...

[buyerbeware]

thinking free wrote:

<quoted text>They need mothball all these over the hill jets. Like what purpose do they serve anymore with the tech stuff we have now. Definitely obsolete. Training you say? bull. You train with what your gonna fight with.

You obviously have no clue as to what the Prowler does. As usual someone with no experience in the field says, "just use drones and satellites. Ever wonder WHY those WMD's in Iraq were incorrectly identified?

[thinking free]

buyerbeware wrote:

<quoted text>You obviously have no clue as to what the Prowler does. As usual someone with no experience in the field says, "just use drones and satellites. Ever wonder WHY those WMD's in Iraq were incorrectly identified?

Cause they didin't exist to begin with, just like the Gulf of Tonkin fiasco didn't happen either, the American people, and you, are suckers, given any excuse to go and kill innocent people.

[buyerbeware]

thinking free wrote:

<quoted text>Cause they didin't exist to begin with, just like the Gulf of Tonkin fiasco didn't happen either, the American people, and you, are suckers, given any excuse to go and kill innocent people.

Yet you are okay with killing defenseless infants? Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Remove the plank from your own eye before worrying about your neighbor's splinter. BTW, those "over the hill" planes STILL save lives.

[Native]

thinking free wrote:

<quoted text>Cause they didin't exist to begin with, just like the Gulf of Tonkin fiasco didn't happen either, the American people, and you, are suckers, given any excuse to go and kill innocent people.

your dem leaders all thought so!

Those of you posting about the Iraqi war & WMD are morons!
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

[thinking free]

Native wrote:

<quoted text>
your dem leaders all thought so!
Those of you posting about the Iraqi war & WMD are morons!
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

What? you actually think dems don't reap the rewards of bogus wars too? You bet your arse they do.

[thinking free]

buyerbeware wrote:

<quoted text>Yet you are okay with killing defenseless infants? Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Remove the plank from your own eye before worrying about your neighbor's splinter. BTW, those "over the hill" planes STILL save lives.

So you mix apples and oranges to make a point? sorry doesn't work. The best thing we can do is cut the DOD budget in half, including scraping junk planes like this. We need to mind our own business and let the world make their own decisions. They hate us as it is because we meddle in the name of democracy, a concept they could care eless about. Europe does fine without us, so will the middle east.If it weren't for DOD contracts and oil we wouldn't be there to begin with and 9/11 wouldn't have happened.

[heh]

thinking free wrote:

<quoted text>So you mix apples and oranges to make a point? sorry doesn't work. The best thing we can do is cut the DOD budget in half, including scraping junk planes like this. We need to mind our own business and let the world make their own decisions. They hate us as it is because we meddle in the name of democracy, a concept they could care eless about. Europe does fine without us, so will the middle east.If it weren't for DOD contracts and oil we wouldn't be there to begin with and 9/11 wouldn't have happened.

the point is well made....you choose to ignore logical thoughts.

[thinking free]

heh wrote:

<quoted text>
the point is well made....you choose to ignore logical thoughts.

Politics isn't about logic, if it were we wouldn't have all the problems we do now, politics is about greed, pure and simple. This country spent almost 200million bucks on this past election, spent for no other reason than getting ones own way in congress. The best part? the bucks go to both sides, left and right, and who ends up getting bilked in the end? us, the unwashed masses.

[JTM]

thinking free wrote:

<quoted text>Politics isn't about logic, if it were we wouldn't have all the problems we do now, politics is about greed, pure and simple. This country spent almost 200million bucks on this past election, spent for no other reason than getting ones own way in congress. The best part? the bucks go to both sides, left and right, and who ends up getting bilked in the end? us, the unwashed masses.

As usual, you have no idea of the true facts or even of reality. The last time we spent 200 million on a Presidential election was before 1996. The reality is more like more than 900 million spent by both parties. This number doesn't even include figures from PAC's and other sources. Of course, why would you let facts stand in the way of a good argument?

[Dude]

JTM wrote:

<quoted text>
As usual, you have no idea of the true facts or even of reality. The last time we spent 200 million on a Presidential election was before 1996. The reality is more like more than 900 million spent by both parties. This number doesn't even include figures from PAC's and other sources. Of course, why would you let facts stand in the way of a good argument?

Just to clairify, both parties, meaning each party, and that would be correct. If you're arguing that special interests have too much undue influence in politics; I'm not sure the number matters because you're both making the same point. Of course, you might not be arguing that.

[Dude]

Native wrote:

<quoted text>
your dem leaders all thought so!
Those of you posting about the Iraqi war & WMD are morons!
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

You're absolutely right, they shouldn't get a pass either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[thinking free]

Native wrote:

<quoted text>
your dem leaders all thought so!
Those of you posting about the Iraqi war & WMD are morons!
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

Ahhhhhhhh, Sandy Berger, the guy who walked into the national archives, committed treason and got away with a fine. Tell me we don't live in a different world than politicians.

[AA Cunningham]

G Luv wrote:

But why did it sound like the engine was cutting in and out? That was the weird part.

That's what happens when you adjust the throttles. Engines spool up - with a corresponding increase in noise and engines spool down - with a corresponding decrease in noise.

[AA Cunningham]

thinking free wrote:

<quoted text>They need mothball all these over the hill jets. Like what purpose do they serve anymore with the tech stuff we have now. Definitely obsolete. Training you say? bull. You train with what your gonna fight with.

Your pseudonym should actually be "thinking fecal".

The Prowler has been around for a long time because of its unique effectiveness. It serves as a critical asset in any strike package in its role as a SEAD platform, something you quite obviously know nothing about.

Your laughable posts serve as an illuminating commentary on the sad state of the public education system in this country. Fortunately, the Marine Corps and the Navy have intelligent, dedicated, professional and patriotic aviators and technicians operating and maintaining these aircraft defending this Republic and protecting ungrateful simpletons like you. Simpletons who don't deserve that protection.