INLAND: Many cities weighing police v...

INLAND: Many cities weighing police vs. sheriff

There are 13 comments on the The Press-Enterprise story from Jun 20, 2011, titled INLAND: Many cities weighing police vs. sheriff. In it, The Press-Enterprise reports that:

As Inland cities try to put the most police officers on the streets for the least amount of money, communities are asking if the best option is a city police department or a county sheriff's contract.

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Concerned Hemet resident

Calabasas, CA

#1 Jun 21, 2011
Why is it so hard for the Hemet council to come to a decision that they must bring in a highly paid cousultant to do their jobs.... Note to city council one of you contact the county sheriffs office. Tell them how meany officers we want in the city of Hemet and what level of service we will expect.. Ask for a bid on the price and compare that to what we are now spending. And make the call yourselves... I know it's a lot of work but you have a highly paid manager to do this for you and he has a highly paid asst. To do his work for him and the asst has under paid staff that will do the work...
Gerald McKinney

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Jun 21, 2011
It certainly should be considered disturbing that the City staff endlessly hires consultants. It doesn't make much of a case for keeping them on at their rather well heeled rate of pay.

As for police, essentially it comes down to this: If you use Sheriff's service, it costs you less money, but they are only reactive, period. With what you pay, they do not even pretend to offer pro active policing. It's only fair.

With an in house police department, the tendency is towards much, much more pro active policing, which prevents quite a bit of crime. And this does cost more.

You just get what you pay for. They are both very professional at what they do, and anyone who has ever had any real life experience with the average officer from either agency will testify that for the most part, they are true professionals who care deeply about their profession.
Rich Miller

United States

#3 Jun 21, 2011
Except for the fact that the union president for the police department screams at the meetings that they are only reactive because the council cuts their pay.... nice try though.
Joe Jr

Hemet, CA

#4 Jun 21, 2011
Rich, that has never been said by any union president or member. Please provide minutes from any meeting that this occurred. I didn't think so, jackass.
Rich Miller

Murrieta, CA

#5 Jun 22, 2011
Hey Joe,

Why don't you go to council meetings. I've been to a bunch these last 10 years and Their president Dustin Murray has said that at least 3 times since 2010 that they are "reactive" in fact, he even said in public that "they are overrun" So you check your facts.
John B

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Jun 22, 2011
The Hemet PD IS only reactive now, since they've been gutted like a fish by the morons in the city managment department.

You can't walk down the street in many parts of town that they used to have under control without seeing a black hooker walking the streets or a crowd of black gang members strutting around. Even the mexicans were never this bad and the white punks were always in no more than twos with their skinhead gear on.

I don't know how Hemet PD has managed to keep the little creatures from overrunning the town worse then they have.

This town used to have hope, with the way the city management is running it you won't be able to stop at a stoplight without getting carjacked.

They keep firing the cops, real smart. Once they hire the county to be cops at least you can just shoot the darkies that attack you and just drive off, there won't be a reason to wait around for the cops since the county cops take hours to show up for anything.
Guest

United States

#7 Jun 22, 2011
John B wrote:
The Hemet PD IS only reactive now, since they've been gutted like a fish by the morons in the city managment department.
You can't walk down the street in many parts of town that they used to have under control without seeing a black hooker walking the streets or a crowd of black gang members strutting around. Even the mexicans were never this bad and the white punks were always in no more than twos with their skinhead gear on.
I don't know how Hemet PD has managed to keep the little creatures from overrunning the town worse then they have.
This town used to have hope, with the way the city management is running it you won't be able to stop at a stoplight without getting carjacked.
They keep firing the cops, real smart. Once they hire the county to be cops at least you can just shoot the darkies that attack you and just drive off, there won't be a reason to wait around for the cops since the county cops take hours to show up for anything.
If they can't do their job and do it well, then they SHOULD be replaced. No excuses, I can't have excuses in my line of work, neither should they
Ban the Stan

Irvine, CA

#8 Jun 22, 2011
We should be worried about the Sheriff who fancies himself an NRA man and a 2nd Amendment advocate,but refuses to grant CCW permits to honest citizens in his county. He says that CCW is a privelege and not a right.... guess he can't read the Constitution. Every day we hear of crimes in our county but Stan would rather show up after the crime and make a report than allow citizens their right to self protection..... Our sheriff likes the crime stats, it allows him something to point at when he wants more money and high dollar toys to play with. Your better off with a city police force than waiting for Stan to show up and take a report.
Joe Jr

Venice, CA

#9 Jun 22, 2011
John B, you get it. Hemet has the least amount of cops per capita than any city in the area and more need than most cities.
John B

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Jun 22, 2011
So what do you do, then you a mechanic? let me take away all of your 9/16th's or your 14 mm.

you a doctor? no more, say, antibiotics.

what do you do? if you earn a living, delete a very well, relied upon tool.

cops don't run on money, but i'd re enlist before i'd be walking down dark alleys with my self and a .40

cal, not king cobra.

you can have the job, there's always openings.
John B

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Jun 22, 2011
and if we looked at your productivity ratio compared to pd, it would show, what?

that pound for pound you'd be eaten alive in the first few hours of the first day?

ever seen pd stats?

i hazard to say you wouldn't compete, guest.
jerry

United States

#12 Jun 22, 2011
Ban the Stan wrote:
We should be worried about the Sheriff who fancies himself an NRA man and a 2nd Amendment advocate,but refuses to grant CCW permits to honest citizens in his county. He says that CCW is a privelege and not a right.... guess he can't read the Constitution. Every day we hear of crimes in our county but Stan would rather show up after the crime and make a report than allow citizens their right to self protection..... Our sheriff likes the crime stats, it allows him something to point at when he wants more money and high dollar toys to play with. Your better off with a city police force than waiting for Stan to show up and take a report.
Hemet may have become a little to challenging for the HPD.
wtf

Grayson, LA

#13 Jun 23, 2011
Or has city council and manager gutted HPD to the point that they can justify RSO taking over, with less "boots on the ground" and decreased services all around?

HPD is doing an EXEMPLARY job, even at the reduced levels they have to deal with, thanks to "cuts" and forced atrition. We are losing GREAT Hemet cops at an alarming rate not because they can make a buck more per hour, but because they want a more stable job! It's not about the money. These good Hemet cops are leaving for greener grass because they are being FORCED to leave! NONE of them want to uproot their families and start over again somewhere else, especially another state! But that is what they are forced to do. Sorry, Hemet, your council and manager are screwing you out of the best officers, and they do not care.

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