New residential subdivision discussed

New residential subdivision discussed

There are 78 comments on the Ruidoso News story from Aug 3, 2012, titled New residential subdivision discussed. In it, Ruidoso News reports that:

Planning board members discussed a proposal from Conquest Investments LLC to annex about 1,200 acres into the village for a potential 600-lot residential subdivision, with all infrastructure again provided by the developer.

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dust in the wind

Hayward, CA

#21 Aug 18, 2012
None of you have figured out what is really going on here?
This is nothing more than a land man realizing that the only way he can maximize the value of his property is by getting water from Capitan and sliding around the county subd laws. His ultimate goal is to bundle the land up and sell it once he gets his approval. There will be a puny attempt at selling a few lots but his real goal is to get rid of it. If you want to test this theory, you should require that he, himself, build at least 20 homes , in the style he is proposing the subd look like. Once he has those homes sold, he gets the water to them. When he builds and sells another 20..etc. Then, your community will grow by x amount of families, you will know what kind of project you have, and you won't have committed all your water. Try that and see how fast the land man runs in the other direction.
De ja vu

United States

#22 Aug 19, 2012
dust in the wind wrote:
None of you have figured out what is really going on here?
This is nothing more than a land man realizing that the only way he can maximize the value of his property is by getting water from Capitan and sliding around the county subd laws. His ultimate goal is to bundle the land up and sell it once he gets his approval. There will be a puny attempt at selling a few lots but his real goal is to get rid of it. If you want to test this theory, you should require that he, himself, build at least 20 homes , in the style he is proposing the subd look like. Once he has those homes sold, he gets the water to them. When he builds and sells another 20..etc. Then, your community will grow by x amount of families, you will know what kind of project you have, and you won't have committed all your water. Try that and see how fast the land man runs in the other direction.
That is the opinion of many on this subject, and probably rightfully so. Correct me if I misunderstood, but wasn't the whole plan to build the COMMERCIAL part first and THEN address the residential ? Didn't they basically say that if they built this wonderful life enriching business park (complete with a possible fantasy pharmacy and an eating franchise, if I recall ) then they would look at annexing more area for residential?

The good people of Capitan are being sold out, if you ask me. They really have no say in the matter anyway, do they? New leadership can't come soon enough to this once proud community, in my opinion.
The Abyss

Dillwyn, VA

#23 Aug 21, 2012
Read the article about the (possible) comprehensive plan items for Capitan. There are some hidden little gems in there that are very interesting. Maybe there is more to this story than people think.
Puce

Charlottesville, VA

#24 Aug 22, 2012
Interesting how everyone avoids ANY blog about this town, even afraid to judge a post.....shame.on.sammy., that's It in a nutshell, isn't it?
Mia

Charlottesville, VA

#25 Aug 23, 2012
Gee, the middle of the night ranter missed this topic for some reason.....anyone wonder why? Not really.

So.Obvious.Dude.
Sam

Las Cruces, NM

#26 Aug 28, 2012
And here is a perfect example of where new leadership is indeed needed.

Sooner , not later.
Moxie

Las Cruces, NM

#27 Aug 31, 2012
dust in the wind wrote:
None of you have figured out what is really going on here?
This is nothing more than a land man realizing that the only way he can maximize the value of his property is by getting water from Capitan and sliding around the county subd laws. His ultimate goal is to bundle the land up and sell it once he gets his approval. There will be a puny attempt at selling a few lots but his real goal is to get rid of it. If you want to test this theory, you should require that he, himself, build at least 20 homes , in the style he is proposing the subd look like. Once he has those homes sold, he gets the water to them. When he builds and sells another 20..etc. Then, your community will grow by x amount of families, you will know what kind of project you have, and you won't have committed all your water. Try that and see how fast the land man runs in the other direction.
I know, right? Let the county deal with this. Then watch what happens ....
Jaded

Hardy, VA

#28 Sep 2, 2012
Will it really matter what Capitan wants ( the residents, that is)? They would be left holding the bag when the current regime is nothing but a bad faded memory, unfortunately. They learned it was safer to stay quiet than speak out.
Leah

United States

#29 Sep 2, 2012
Too bad the existing regime is so closed-minded to what it's people want, and need. They made some raw choices a while back ...and well, they will have to accept any consequences that follow, right?
Thru the grapevine

Shipman, VA

#31 Sep 5, 2012
Anyone go ? Did they approve it? Seems rushed ...again....
Speechless

Charlottesville, VA

#32 Sep 10, 2012
So, still waiting to see or hear what happened at this meeting. Its also not on the regular meeting agenda for discussion/approval, so is it off the table for now or is it a done deal?

This is another problem in this town ....all hush hush.
Push Rush Hush

Monroe, VA

#33 Sep 12, 2012
The new motto of Capitan? Seems about right.
Dharma

Charlottesville, VA

#34 Sep 13, 2012
So the ' judgees ' like sour pusses and flames of fire? Good to know..
Just wait folks,.....karma happens, may be the new motto there after all is sad and done.
Thru the grapevine

Charlottesville, VA

#35 Sep 18, 2012
Still waiting for information or/and a news article. Anybody?
Leah

Monroe, VA

#36 Oct 10, 2012
I applaud the efforts of Jeannie Adams and Pearl Tippin, in their letter to the Ruidoso News today. All of Capitan should be concerned with both the water and the other current situations they point out in Capitan. Until much more has been done ( or even begun !) to improve the quality of Capitan, this subdivision should not go forward.
Pants on Fire

Alto, NM

#37 Oct 10, 2012
Capitan's use of the Eagle Creek water rights is subject to proof of the flow in the Bonito River at a guaging station at Govt. Springs. In normal years, not to mention dry years, Capitan can only use its Eagle Creek rights when there is a minimum flow per minute at the guaging station. Exceeding that rate would require the use to be suspendend. Capitan cannot provide the connections without the eagle creek credits and cannot guarantee those credits will be available in any given year. If you don't believe me, ask the city clerk to give you a copy of the agreeement with the state engineer's office. Its a public record freely available for the asking.
Jaded

Shipman, VA

#38 Oct 10, 2012
I believe you. But good luck to anyone who tries to get information.
Did the planning bd approve this yet? Or is it now out of their hands?
At the last regular meeting in Capitan, two water bd members resigned and were replaced. Suddenly there are water board meetings with this item on the agenda.
And good luck finding those minutes.
Sam

Charlottesville, VA

#39 Oct 16, 2012
Meeting tonite again, hope everyone goes and speaks out. Well, at least listens, quietly. Audience participation not really encouraged.
In case you missed it

Charlottesville, VA

#40 Oct 16, 2012
Below is a letter to the editor of the Ruidoso News .... very Well written, regarding Capitan. Everyone there should take the time to read this and take note.

" The water woes of Capitan
Posted:  10/09/2012 07:18:36 PM MDT

To the editor

As most in Lincoln County now know, we in Capitan are facing the possibility of a substantial housing development just north and east of our village. Our understanding is that the land (1,200 acres) is under consideration to be annexed to the village of Capitan, and Conquest Development is making plans to build 600 housing units there.

There will be some one-acre pieces and "diverse housing" is planned, which are most likely multi-family units.

Many of us we believe, are opposed to this development. The primary reason is, of course, water.

Some in Capitan believe that there is plenty, but anyone who pays the least attention to the world-wide and U.S. reports on water availability knows that it is a precious commodity and not to be treated carelessly. And, in view of the outrageous fires we've had in New Mexico recently, and most likely will have in the future, water will become an even more precious resource.

Many believe in the adage, "grow or die" regarding small towns. We can see no reason for anyone to come to Capitan to live and work.

There is no work here; some retirees may come, it is a lovely place to live, quiet, open, lovely views. But Capitan the Village will have to improve its physical image quite a bit to attract these folks. What we should be doing is improving the overall appearance of the village: sidewalks, parking, landscaping, attractive shop fronts, upgraded; (existing) residential areas; a large natural park perhaps,

with hiking, biking and riding trails, picnicking and some playing fields and courts.
Take a look, for example, at the subdivision off Highway 48. There are many abandoned homes, mostly mobile, which are in various states of disrepair. There are about a dozen vacant homes or business locations looking for buyers or renters on Smokey Bear Blvd and Highway 48, and they're looking pretty sad, not appealing to visitors or prospective residents.

There is to be a meeting for the general public at 5:30 p.m. Tuesday, Oct. 16, regarding this development, and we want to urge all Capitan citizens who are concerned with the quality of life in Capitan to come to this meeting.

Respectfully,

Jeannie Adams

Pearl Tippin"
Back to back

Hardy, VA

#41 Oct 16, 2012
Anyone hear what happened at both meetings? Please fill us in...

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