2 die in Carmel roundabout crash

2 die in Carmel roundabout crash

There are 358 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Oct 1, 2007, titled 2 die in Carmel roundabout crash. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Two men were killed early this morning after their car crashed into a concrete wall in the center of a roundabout in Carmel.

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dogman

Oshkosh, WI

#1 Oct 1, 2007
So now Carmel will put more roundabouts in because they just don't see the value in revamping 431. Nice to see what the value of human life is.
John

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Oct 1, 2007
And just HOW FAST were these guys going??? And what has the driver been consuming???
Bizarre

Columbus, OH

#3 Oct 1, 2007
I am sure speed, alcohol or drugs will be a factor in this. How else could someone possibly die in a roundabout crash?

I'm sure this story will bring out all the roundabout haters, but really folks, think before you post.
Ben

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Oct 1, 2007
Nothing good ever happens at 3am
big surprise

Dayton, OH

#5 Oct 1, 2007
Those roundabouts are good examples of awful street planning. I can't believe the state is going to let those idiots put them in on Keystone. Once they get ahold of Meridian, it will be impossible to get anywhere north of the county line.
BigTone

Burbank, CA

#7 Oct 1, 2007
Wait for it, "I knew those roundabouts where dangerous" comments to follow.
Early morning, speed and most likely not paying attention have nothing to do with it; it's a dangerous thing a roundabout. Lord knows how drivers in England and the rest of Europe cope.
I personally prefer to waste 10 mins at every stop sign, three mins at some traffic lights rather than just keep moving. If the DOT had any balls they would engineer in more roundabouts. Oh and for the dummies amongst us, please note the sarcasm.
concernedinindy

Evansville, IN

#8 Oct 1, 2007
Hey Mayor Brainard do you still think Round-a-bouts are,a good idea?? Remember this is the United States not England! Mayor all you are doing for Carmel is making it a monument for your own ego!!!!!!!!!!
Severe Weather

Indianapolis, IN

#9 Oct 1, 2007
Are these things really safer than a stop light?
BMM

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Oct 1, 2007
So much for roundabouts and less severe accidents.

XiP

Since: Sep 07

Carmel, IN

#12 Oct 1, 2007
concernedinindy wrote:
Hey Mayor Brainard do you still think Round-a-bouts are,a good idea?? Remember this is the United States not England! Mayor all you are doing for Carmel is making it a monument for your own ego!!!!!!!!!!
How many people are killed at stop signs? Do you still think that stop signs are a good idea?!
Roundabout

AOL

#14 Oct 1, 2007
So the Roundabout caused the accident??

Stupid Roundabout.

Without the roundabout they could have easily gone through there at 80MPH.
special ed

Cincinnati, OH

#15 Oct 1, 2007
concernedinindy wrote:
Hey Mayor Brainard do you still think Round-a-bouts are,a good idea?? Remember this is the United States not England! Mayor all you are doing for Carmel is making it a monument for your own ego!!!!!!!!!!
Read Bigtone's comment just before yours. Nothing worse than these awful 4way stops where the tool in front of ya waves a couple of cars on, completely forgetting about those behind him/her. Or the mistimed traffic light that changes just as you get there, only to remain red through that 2 minute cycle while not a car goes approaches the green.
Yeah, these roundabouts, oh my, they breed killer crashes!
David

United States

#17 Oct 1, 2007
Three people killed at roundabouts in two days.
Cheryl

Indianapolis, IN

#18 Oct 1, 2007
I was just in that area recently and they are putting in a roundabout there, separating Nora from Carmel, meaning it was incomplete so one could not go all the way around it, thus possibly being the cause of this wreck. I remember not realizing it was incomplete until I got right on it. Perhaps bad markings/warnings? And of course, there are bars along 96th Street, and there was a Colts win yesterday, so...possibly drinking involved, which makes a roundabout even harder to...round.
Miss Teefied

Elwood, IN

#19 Oct 1, 2007
Guess they didn't roundabout anything eh?
Hwy 37

United States

#20 Oct 1, 2007
BMM wrote:
So much for roundabouts and less severe accidents.
Let do away with hwy 37 from Fishers to Noblesville. Several teens have died on that strech recently from running off the road in a single car accident. I see the crosses every time I go that way.
blah

Indianapolis, IN

#21 Oct 1, 2007
accident happened at 3:00AM... yeah the roundabout was to blame. The roundabouts are a great idea, however I'm waiting to see how the idiot drivers handle them in winter.
youarestund

Indianapolis, IN

#23 Oct 1, 2007
concernedinindy wrote:
Hey Mayor Brainard do you still think Round-a-bouts are,a good idea?? Remember this is the United States not England! Mayor all you are doing for Carmel is making it a monument for your own ego!!!!!!!!!!
...uh, actually, without the roundabout this numbskull driver probably would have flown through a 4-way stop and killed someone. Brainard is a hero for putting concrete in front of his citizens.
Colts fan

Indianapolis, IN

#24 Oct 1, 2007
Bizarre wrote:
I am sure speed, alcohol or drugs will be a factor in this. How else could someone possibly die in a roundabout crash?
.
Could've been a medical condition.
Joe

Carmel, IN

#25 Oct 1, 2007
Severe Weather wrote:
Are these things really safer than a stop light?
Yes! They are safer than a stoplight. If you try to drive straight through a roundabout, you run into a wall and kill yourself. If you run a red light, you kill people in other cars too.

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