Cops crack down on cell phones in sch...

Cops crack down on cell phones in school zones

There are 117 comments on the Antioch Review story from Sep 22, 2010, titled Cops crack down on cell phones in school zones. In it, Antioch Review reports that:

The Niles Police Department is focusing on preventing cell phone usage, including texting, in school zones.

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District 34 Parent

Mchenry, IL

#61 Oct 4, 2010
Hold please wrote:
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My argument is putting people at risk? Well that would be a first. All I'm asking is that you all start to understand that it's not right to punish the majority of us for the selfishness and arrogance of others. I don't agree with this assertion that just because someone happens to be on the phone while driving they're not paying attention. That's grandiose stereotyping in an attempt to ban a behavior that you simply don't understand or want to accept.
No Ms. "Hole Please", what this is is a Baby Boomer trying to get a point across to a Gen X. You go ahead and continue to make whatever point you feel the need to. I stand by my comment that holding a conversation on a cellphone is distracting to any driver. I don't care whether you personally think you are a terrific multi-tasker or not. It's just common sense. Try it sometime. And, try taking a break with your keyboard and absorbing what is being said to you by others. Come down to earth with the rest of us and maybe you will see more clearly.

“Snow days!”

Since: Nov 08

A winter wonderland

#62 Oct 5, 2010
Just Sayin wrote:
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And when cell phones didn't exist we were able to have full lives without being on the phone every freakin' second.
Yes yes & yes! I tell people I'm one of the 4 remaining people in this country who does not have a cell phone. And for that, I'm glad. Sure, they have their uses. But what did people do in the dark ages, you know, before cell phones were invented? They either used a pay phone, or waited until they got home. It was not a great hardship. If there is an emergency, say, with your kids, what are you going to do while stuck in traffic? Parents once made sure that there was an adult or an older kid nearby in case the younger kids had a problem. Now, they just rely on their phones. That won't do you a whole lot of good if the battery is dead.

“Snow days!”

Since: Nov 08

A winter wonderland

#63 Oct 5, 2010
Hold please wrote:
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Your anecdote is quite disturbing and reminds me of a tale of my own. Back when I was in high school, long before the car phone or cell phone was commercially viable (aka, as ubiquitous as they are now) a friend of mine and I were riding our bikes. As we crossed a side street out of a neighborhood, we spied a car slowly crawling toward us. The driver couldn't have been doing more than 10-15 mph as they approached us. My friend never took his eyes off the car as he said, "Watch this, they're going to hit me," and BAM! the next thing I knew he was on the ground and the driver was outside the car saying, "Oh my God? Are you all right? I didn't SEE you!"
How could the driver not have seen us? We were at our full adult height, riding adult 10-speed bicycles and if they were looking out their windshield, there's no way they could have missed us. And, once again, this was before cell phones, so what could have distracted this driver?
THE DRIVER distracted the driver, that's what did it. This is my point - everyone here wants to blame EVERYTHING but who's actually at fault: the drivers. I don't care if it's a cell phone, a crying baby, a carload of children, a sedan full of executives or a catchy tune on the radio - there are just some people who do not give driving the respect it deserves from the get-go. The person in my story was simply in their own little world and managed to find a way to stupid their way into an easily avoidable situation. But they didn't. Why? Because they weren't paying attention. It's not the fault of the radio, it's not the fault of the cell phone, it's not the fault of anything inside the car except for the DRIVER.
Stop making excuses for people and put the blame where it belongs. Some people suck. The sooner you all realize that and stop blaming inanimate objects for the World's problems, the better off you'll be.
I don't blame things like this solely on cell phone users. Another time, I was walking past a gas station. Still wearing that purple parka. Two women had their cars parked side-by-side facing opposite directions. They were having a lively conversation thru their open windows. One of the women took her foot off the brake & started coasting forward before she turned her eyes to the road. Wow, was she ever surprised when she heard me yelling like a maniac to stop her car. She stopped about 2" from my left knee. Yes, there are idiots in all walks of life. But cell phone use while driving is a controllable situation. More care needs to be taken when using a hands-on device. It's every bit as bad as reading the paper, putting on makeup or eating while driving.

Now, how about those fax machines you can use in the car?
Mystery Man

United States

#64 Oct 5, 2010
Andie J wrote:
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Yes yes & yes! I tell people I'm one of the 4 remaining people in this country who does not have a cell phone. And for that, I'm glad. Sure, they have their uses. But what did people do in the dark ages, you know, before cell phones were invented? They either used a pay phone, or waited until they got home. It was not a great hardship. If there is an emergency, say, with your kids, what are you going to do while stuck in traffic? Parents once made sure that there was an adult or an older kid nearby in case the younger kids had a problem. Now, they just rely on their phones. That won't do you a whole lot of good if the battery is dead.
That's a good point.
I only got my cell phone when i became my mom's care giver.
It came in handy whenever she was in the hospital or if i needed to make such medical arrangements.
Now that she is gone i hardly use it. Maybe about 5 times a month.
I never found it to be great.
Its hard to hear on them. Its never crystal clear like a land line.
Its stupid to have to pay for incoming calls.
Battery life is crap.
I can see why phone companies want people to own them.
They make way more money off of cell phones.
They really do seem to control people's lives.
Look at HOLD PLEASE she would go nuts if she was without a phone for more then an hour.
That phone is her life. She's more addicted to it then drugs addicts are to drugs.
It ruined her perception of safe driving.
To me she is the poster girl for what is wrong with driving while on a cell phone.
She is just one cell phone call away from a road accident.
VyvB

United States

#65 Oct 5, 2010
Hold please wrote:
Right. And the fact that multiple times you've publically called him a "moron" doesn't demonstrate your need to express your superiority?
Publicly? You don't know who I am much less who I'm referring to, so his anonymity is safe. Histrionics indeed.
Hold please wrote:
Once again, demonstrating your superiority over your friend because he's done something that you NEVER have done.
All I'm demonstrating is proof that he should listen to all of his concerned friends (not just me) and exercise more caution when tired. We don't want to see him injure himself or anyone else just because he feels like he must get home. And if he really must he's got the resources and support of friends to get him there.
Hold please wrote:
What you're suggesting is that just because someone has a phone to their ear, you hit them with reckless driving, whether they are or not. To me, that's in the same category as racial profiling, "Well, they were on the phone so there was a CHANCE they might drive recklessly."
Punish people for what they DO, not what they MIGHT do.
You are a ridiculous person. Equivalent to racial profiling?! What a buffoon you make yourself out to be. Besides, I never said anything about pulling someone over and charging them with reckless driving merely because they have a phone to their ear. If you sifted through the bile you're spewing at me you'd see that what I'm talking about is pulling over people who are DRIVING ERRATICALLY because they are on a cell phone and giving them a ticket for reckless driving. I'll sift through the crap your selling and say that somewhere in the above quote, minus the histrionics over racial profiling equivalency, I agree with you. If a cop sees a dumb-ass driving erratically because they are on a cell phone, they should be able to pull them over for reckless driving. I don't see the need for seperate cell phone laws.
Mr_No

United States

#66 Oct 5, 2010
Well, I think the problem is in the way you phrase your statement. Not that I have chosen a side in the argument between the two of you. But as an outside observer, what I think you mean to say is if a cop sees a dumb-ass driving erratically, they should be able to pull them over for reckless driving...cell phone or not. Reckless driving is reckless driving, there is no need for seperate laws.

I for one use my cell phone while driving alot. I have a bluetooth connection and am hands free. I can agree that this is not a 100% effective solution, but it works for me. Unless you take cell phones away from all the other business people in the world, I need it to maintain an edge...driving, cooking, whatever. I'm sorry if you don't like it.
Mr_No

United States

#67 Oct 5, 2010
On a related note, I am sure similar arguments (not related to driving but to the use of the medium in general) existed regarding phones. Why do you need a phone instead of just talking face to face or writing a letter. You could argue the same about this forum, why? Have a face to face discussion with your neighbor instead, etc.
Times and technology change, adapt or die.
Mystery Man - cell phones have improved much in 5 years and most people don't pay for incoming calls anymore. Many people are giving up their land lines in favor of the mobile phone because of the quality plus the convenience.
VyvB

United States

#68 Oct 5, 2010
Thank you Mr_No for clarifying. I was assuming that everyone would apply my comments to the topic and there was no need to include all forms of reckless driving.
Mystery Man

United States

#69 Oct 5, 2010
Mr_No wrote:
Mystery Man - cell phones have improved much in 5 years and most people don't pay for incoming calls anymore. Many people are giving up their land lines in favor of the mobile phone because of the quality plus the convenience.
My land line don't need a battery.
My land line has a crystal clear connection.
My land line has nice size buttons that i can read and hit easily.
And if i drop it i don't worry about it breaking into a 1000 pieces.
I'm keeping my land line its way better then any cell phone i've tried.
Mr_No

United States

#70 Oct 5, 2010
MM - don't be upset. If a land line is all you need to function then so be it. I'm just pointing out that cell phones have come a long way.

Sure it needs a battery, but I have charges and replacement batteries with me, so I'm never without power. My phone's connection is clear as often as my land line (which if you are saying you've never had a bad connection on a land line, you are lying). I hit my buttons just fine. Fine enough to email and text quickly. I don't worry about breaking my phone either as they are not as expensive as they used to be.

Again, if you get by with just a land line, good for you. I can't live and compete without my mobile.
Mr_No

United States

#71 Oct 5, 2010
VyvB wrote:
Thank you Mr_No for clarifying. I was assuming that everyone would apply my comments to the topic and there was no need to include all forms of reckless driving.


I know, and I wasn't trying to be a smart alec, but the way you phrased it may be why the other party was perceiving you as being abrasive when I didn't read it that way.
Mystery Man

United States

#72 Oct 5, 2010
Mr_No wrote:
MM - don't be upset. If a land line is all you need to function then so be it. I'm just pointing out that cell phones have come a long way.
Sure it needs a battery, but I have charges and replacement batteries with me, so I'm never without power. My phone's connection is clear as often as my land line (which if you are saying you've never had a bad connection on a land line, you are lying). I hit my buttons just fine. Fine enough to email and text quickly. I don't worry about breaking my phone either as they are not as expensive as they used to be.
Again, if you get by with just a land line, good for you. I can't live and compete without my mobile.
Please don't don't call me a liar i didn't call you one.
And the only time i ever had static on my land line was during a storm.
That happened maybe 3 or 4 times in my 58 years on this planet.
Bad reception on my cell is about 50 %
Its a RAZR V3 ( got it brand new back around 2003 ?)
My eyesight requires bifocals. And the buttons on a my Razr are flat and hard to hit as well as read.
I'm NOT lying about it. And i do resent being called one.
If you like your cell phone fine go for it.
My problem with others using a cell phone is when they are driving and being distracted by it.
I hate sitting at a left turn while the idiot in front of me is holding a phone and not looking not the light.
Then when they do wake up they are driving all over the place because they are using only one hand on the while while turning left.
And that's just one example of their bad driving while using a cell phone.
God

Elmhurst, IL

#73 Oct 6, 2010
You guys are all idiots.

Vote the right person in office and you won't have this problem!

Why don't you start worrying abour kids dealing pot to your kids at school like the Toledo kid.
Gen X

Plainfield, IL

#74 Oct 6, 2010
Hold Please now the truth comes out as these people against the use of mobile phones in cars admit to their age. They are just old and part of getting old is loosing the ability to grasp and adapt to the use of new things. Technology scares them. Unfortunatly for us there are going to be a lot more old people than us and since they are scared of everything they are going to ban a lot of things for "safety" as they might break a hip.
Mystery Man

United States

#75 Oct 6, 2010
Gen X wrote:
Hold Please now the truth comes out as these people against the use of mobile phones in cars admit to their age. They are just old and part of getting old is loosing the ability to grasp and adapt to the use of new things. Technology scares them. Unfortunatly for us there are going to be a lot more old people than us and since they are scared of everything they are going to ban a lot of things for "safety" as they might break a hip.
I'm proud of my age. I'll be 59 next month.
I guess i won't be inviting you to my birthday party.
What kind of person are you that you would attack someone based on their age ?
Need i remind you aging is something you also are experiencing.
Somehow i doubt you'll face it with grace.
My debate with cell phone drivers is based on the rise in accidents due to their inattentive driving caused by their use of the cell phone.
Their age is never a factor.
As for the gasp of technology i gasp it just fine.
Some of it i like and some i don't.
I understand the buttons on the phone i just think my land line is easier to use. Buttons are not flat and bigger.
Anyway come back and join the debate when you're old enough to drive a car.
Mr_No

United States

#76 Oct 6, 2010
MM -

I apologize, but technically I did not call you a liar. I said if you are saying...then you are. You clarified what you said, which does not fall within the categorization I made. So technically I did not call you one, but apologize at any rate.

Also, many phones come with raised keys now.
Just Sayin

Schaumburg, IL

#77 Oct 6, 2010
Gen X wrote:
Hold Please now the truth comes out as these people against the use of mobile phones in cars admit to their age. They are just old and part of getting old is loosing the ability to grasp and adapt to the use of new things. Technology scares them. Unfortunatly for us there are going to be a lot more old people than us and since they are scared of everything they are going to ban a lot of things for "safety" as they might break a hip.
The only thing that scares me is you driving a car while talking on the phone.
Mystery Man

United States

#78 Oct 6, 2010
Mr_No wrote:
MM -
I apologize, but technically I did not call you a liar. I said if you are saying...then you are. You clarified what you said, which does not fall within the categorization I made. So technically I did not call you one, but apologize at any rate.
Also, many phones come with raised keys now.
accepted.
I have looked at a few raised number phones.
Including keyboard kind.
The one i liked the most was the tundra.
It wasn't really raised numbers but it wasn't flat either.
I liked the fact that its durable.
It is an improvement to what i have but not by much.
I'm still on my 1st ever cell phone.
I'm figuring at least another 5 more yrs out of it.
Cars usually last me 10-15 years so a phone should last at least that long too.
driver

Elmwood Park, IL

#79 Oct 6, 2010
people who drive around gabbing on their cellphones or sending texts are reckless idiots who need to be taken off the road before they kill or seriously injure someone. the worst ones are the parents who do this while driving their kids around. i really hope every town and village increases the fines for this kind of stupid behavior that is endangering all of us on the road.
Mr_No

United States

#80 Oct 7, 2010
1. MM - 5 years for a phone is a really long time. I would temper my expectations there if I were you.

2. Is it the talking on the phone while driving or holding the phone to your head while driving? The former, if using a hands free device or in car connection is no different than engaging in a conversation with a passenger. In fact, since that conversational partner is not present, you don't have to feel compelled to look at him at all.

BTW, we have completely jacked this thread.

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