River Grove Library's grant application rejected for lack of funds

Jul 17, 2012 Full story: ElmLeaves 22

An attempt to get funds to lay the groundwork for a new public library in River Grove suffered a setback last week.

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Marge

Chicago, IL

#1 Jul 21, 2012
How disappointing but not surprised given the economic landscape currently, especially in the State of Illinois. Timing is everything.

I only had wished that both Elmwood Park and River Grove would have teamed up and had one library for both communities, given how close they are to each other and how small River Grove is. RIght now, it seems that as separate libraries, both are having setbacks. IF they only had teamed up, it would have been beneficial for both communities both financially and for the community.

Oh well..... hopefully maybe the saying, when a door shuts, a window will open...

maybe something even better will come about.
bud

Chicago, IL

#2 Jul 21, 2012
just face it...River Grove will never have a bigger library..it just wouldnt make any sense to have a big library given that it is such a small town and has hardly any money.

I agree, they should have partnered with Elmwood Park or Franklin Park....but too late now.

I know as a fact that there are many in River Grove who have given up on visiting the library and just go and use the other towns' libraries.
laura

Chicago, IL

#3 Jul 22, 2012
the rg library is a library for little kids. Most of the older kids go an use the FP library since they have a reference librarian when they need help with their homework.

plus there is absolutely no room to study at the RG library.

the library shold do a survey and ask how many of its resients use the library and hw many use the other libraries to gt stattistics.
Bonita

Chicago, IL

#4 Jul 23, 2012
my kids stopped using the RG library and go use Franklin Parks library....it is open on Sundays and they use it instead of the RG library. They said there is nothing there as far as good reference material, no room to study, and the clerks there didnt seem to know anything when asked about finding research material for homework help.

if RG builds a new building, would it still be the same ? as far as not enough reference books and librarians who were not help ful? What would be the point....seems like a waste of money since the kids already use the other libraries.
Old Timer

Chicago, IL

#5 Jul 23, 2012
Bonita wrote:
my kids stopped using the RG library and go use Franklin Parks library....it is open on Sundays and they use it instead of the RG library. They said there is nothing there as far as good reference material, no room to study, and the clerks there didnt seem to know anything when asked about finding research material for homework help.
if RG builds a new building, would it still be the same ? as far as not enough reference books and librarians who were not help ful? What would be the point....seems like a waste of money since the kids already use the other libraries.
The library board has not increased the staff's wages. Most of the staff are not libraians they are only paid minimum wage.
Big Al

Chicago, IL

#6 Jul 23, 2012
Marge wrote:
How disappointing but not surprised given the economic landscape currently, especially in the State of Illinois. Timing is everything.
I only had wished that both Elmwood Park and River Grove would have teamed up and had one library for both communities, given how close they are to each other and how small River Grove is. RIght now, it seems that as separate libraries, both are having setbacks. IF they only had teamed up, it would have been beneficial for both communities both financially and for the community.
Oh well..... hopefully maybe the saying, when a door shuts, a window will open...
maybe something even better will come about.
Too much politics and egos.
morty

Chicago, IL

#7 Jul 23, 2012
bud wrote:
just face it...River Grove will never have a bigger library..it just wouldnt make any sense to have a big library given that it is such a small town and has hardly any money.
I agree, they should have partnered with Elmwood Park or Franklin Park....but too late now.
I know as a fact that there are many in River Grove who have given up on visiting the library and just go and use the other towns' libraries.
FP would be more than happy to take the library taxes from River Grove. They do a good job considering the amount of money compared to our schools.
Paula

Chicago, IL

#8 Jul 26, 2012
yea.I heard it took the board six months to discuss giving the staff a 3 cent raise.

really if there really is not that much money...what kind of library would even be built...if it is constaNTLY Struggling for money?

Great...there will be a bigger building, but then there will be money for anything else....like paying the staff, more computers, more programs...

Right now they are struggling...

And since the neighboring library has so much already, I get the feeling even with a new building, River Grove will still be outdone by Franklin Park's library.

It is tough when the next town over has such a phenomenal library. People are already used to using that library and I dont thinkthey will stop using that library if River Grove builds a new building.
Chris

Melrose Park, IL

#9 Jul 26, 2012
Paula wrote:
yea.I heard it took the board six months to discuss giving the staff a 3 cent raise.
really if there really is not that much money...what kind of library would even be built...if it is constaNTLY Struggling for money?
Great...there will be a bigger building, but then there will be money for anything else....like paying the staff, more computers, more programs...
Right now they are struggling...
And since the neighboring library has so much already, I get the feeling even with a new building, River Grove will still be outdone by Franklin Park's library.
It is tough when the next town over has such a phenomenal library. People are already used to using that library and I dont thinkthey will stop using that library if River Grove builds a new building.
There will be no money for thr staff's salaries. The library board will not raise their salaries even if there was more money. The salaries have not been increased for 30 years.
Marge
#10 Aug 17, 2012
Then how do they keep their staff from leaving?

I agree RG should have partnered up with Elmwood Park. Both libraries are struggling financially separately. IF they were combined, it may have benefitted both communities.
Chris

Schaumburg, IL

#11 Sep 7, 2012
Marge wrote:
Then how do they keep their staff from leaving?
I agree RG should have partnered up with Elmwood Park. Both libraries are struggling financially separately. IF they were combined, it may have benefitted both communities.
They don't keep them from leaving they seem to be coming and going.
honore

Chicago, IL

#12 Sep 7, 2012
That is a shame. What would the point of building a new library if they have a constant turnover of staff.

I must say this is important. The staff at the library has improved CONSIDERABLY A LOT in the last 2-3 years. I think the old director had clerks who had no knowledge of computers, library science, who had been there for decades. They were old, snotty and rude. There used to be this one heavyset woman who used to sit at the desk and talk loudly about how dumb the other two clerks were and how she had to constantly fix eerything they did. This she did loudly. She also was hot and cold.
The staff now is pleasant, professional, and most importantly knowledgeable. They go out of their way to help you. The old hens they used to have did not do that. They would do very minimal to help you.
If what you say is true, then this wonderful staff they have now will also be gone. Having professional and pleasant staff is important. Maybe that is why the old staff was so cranky...they werent paid much.

The library has greatly improved in the last couple of years in all realms, staff, programs, hours and ........drumroll please....finally bookdrops. What is that about? Why did they wait so long? Didnt they think this was important?

My mom used to live in River Grove and she really loved the library but she said the library didnt have a chance because the old mayor was so anti-library. He did not believe in RG having a new library. He said why should RG get a new library...they could go and use the Triton College library... Yea right.... like they would have books for grade school kids. How out of touch was he? His friends still live in RG and will never set foot in the library.....and dont believe in having their tax payer money be spent on the library. What a shame?

All I can say... is that RG has to make the best of what they have. Getting bookdrops, more convenient hours, uptodate books, professional staff and more and varied programs is a start.

MAYBE when the economy changes and the old goats left over from the old administration drop dead, then RG will get a new library building.
Chris wrote:
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They don't keep them from leaving they seem to be coming and going.
hookah fan

Chicago, IL

#13 Dec 31, 2012
no wonder no one stays there long. I just got used to the latest batch of people working there who were the best in a long time and over one weeks time they all left. I think they last about 7 months tops.
Chris wrote:
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There will be no money for thr staff's salaries. The library board will not raise their salaries even if there was more money. The salaries have not been increased for 30 years.
Former Rg

Schaumburg, IL

#14 Jan 1, 2013
hookah fan wrote:
no wonder no one stays there long. I just got used to the latest batch of people working there who were the best in a long time and over one weeks time they all left. I think they last about 7 months tops.
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With that education you are not going to stay for min. wage.
soupy

Chicago, IL

#15 Jan 2, 2013
the staff at franklin park seems to stay a long time..how much do them make? But I think they have more hours since they are open on Sundays. I thinkthe staff at RG is all part time.

sad....once you get someone who actually is knowledgeable and knows what they are doing...then they are gone.

well...i am wondering if RG were to get a new building...would there be money for more stable staff?

I have given up on thinking that RG will ever have a new library...especially with the bozos they have on the board. dumb idiots. they are in their own world....and out of touch with the world ,especially their own community.
Former Rg wrote:
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With that education you are not going to stay for min. wage.
fp resident

Schaumburg, IL

#16 Jan 2, 2013
soupy wrote:
the staff at franklin park seems to stay a long time..how much do them make? But I think they have more hours since they are open on Sundays. I thinkthe staff at RG is all part time.
sad....once you get someone who actually is knowledgeable and knows what they are doing...then they are gone.
well...i am wondering if RG were to get a new building...would there be money for more stable staff?
I have given up on thinking that RG will ever have a new library...especially with the bozos they have on the board. dumb idiots. they are in their own world....and out of touch with the world ,especially their own community.
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they probably make more than rg staff. FP library is not open on thurs. evenings for some reason. rg has no money to pay staff. they probably used the money to buy property.
bob

Chicago, IL

#17 Jan 5, 2013
not sure where you are getting your information, but the Franklin Park library is always open on Thursday evenings.... they may have been closed for an open house or something but the FP library has regular hours and are always open on Thursdays... You may want to check your sources.
fp resident wrote:
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they probably make more than rg staff. FP library is not open on thurs. evenings for some reason. rg has no money to pay staff. they probably used the money to buy property.
Library Trustee

Elmwood Park, IL

#18 Jan 5, 2013
fp resident wrote:
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they probably make more than rg staff. FP library is not open on thurs. evenings for some reason. rg has no money to pay staff. they probably used the money to buy property.
I'm a libary trustee for Franklin Park, I've confirmed they are open M-Th: 9-9 F-Sat: 9-5 Sun: 1-5. If you have any other questions or concerns regarding our library please go to our webisite at http://www.franklinparklibrary.org . On the right side you will see a "Need Help? Ask Us!" type your question into the text box and a librarian will answer any questions. Here is a little something to read while discussing libraries of the future http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-i...

Thanks,

Joseph T. Reyes
Library Trustee

Elmwood Park, IL

#19 Jan 5, 2013
Reposted with corrections:

I'm a library trustee for Franklin Park, I've confirmed they are open M-Th: 9-9 F-Sat: 9-5 Sun: 1-5. If you have any other questions or concerns regarding our library please go to our website at http://www.franklinparklibrary.org . On the right side you will see a "Need Help? Ask Us!" type your question into the text box and a librarian will answer any questions. Here is a little something to read while discussing libraries of the future http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-i...

Thanks,
Joseph T. Reyes
Pat

Chicago, IL

#20 Jan 7, 2013
not sure where this rumor about franklin Park library cutting their hours...but it is false. I was visiting the RG library and one of the employees mentioned this to me. It is not true.

here is the FP library facebook page with their hours

https://www.facebook.com/askfppl/info

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