Eagan restaurant heading to Burnsville

Eagan restaurant heading to Burnsville

There are 31 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jun 26, 2008, titled Eagan restaurant heading to Burnsville. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

A restaurant that's being pushed out of Eagan found a new home in Burnsville. City leaders last week agreed to sell a little more than half-an-acre to the Mediterranean Cruise CafA© for $165,000. In ...

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Pragmatist

Burnsville, MN

#21 Jun 26, 2008
Marko wrote:
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No! Please don't play that card. They forced Larson's auto out too. Larson doesn't fit the ethnic group "undercurrent".
A couple of posters nailed it:
Jensen's has the "desirable clientele" and Cedarvale Lanes has very deep wallets.
Most of the others simply got screwed by what some call visionary development. Good luck to those who lost! Hopefully you and the Rosemount victims can come out as well as the Cruise Cafe.
Larsen's is an automotive repair business in an area the city didn't want an automotive repair business in. It may not have been racially motivated for Cruise, but it certainly smacks of cronyism at the very least.
Marko

Vancouver, WA

#22 Jun 27, 2008
Pragmatist wrote:
<quoted text>Larsen's is an automotive repair business in an area the city didn't want an automotive repair business in. It may not have been racially motivated for Cruise, but it certainly smacks of cronyism at the very least.
Agreed!
Jesse

AOL

#23 Jun 27, 2008
Good Riddance, Mediterranean Cruise is a dump, the food is bad, and the service is worse. I had friends in from Paris and a Greek friend of mine and I took them there. We went as a large group. The hot food wasn't hot, and things that we asked be omitted were not. The bill came and was more than it should have been, but the receipts are not itemized. It is just a number written on paper. I assumed that it was just because a gratuity had been added due to the size of our group and we paid and went to leave. We were almost all out the door when the waiter stood in the way of my French friend and would not permit him to leave unless he left at least a 15% tip. A custom with which he was unfamiliar as in France the tip is included in meal prices. This was not a good impression of our country by the people we let do business here. I seriously hope that Med. Cruise tanks in its new location. I certainly wouldn't visit again and it is within walking distance now.
Be honest

New York, NY

#24 Jun 27, 2008
Stan wrote:
I agree wth Small Business Owner - that it was the reason. Other than letting them stay in the same location another option would have been to include a new building within the (re)development. I wonder why the city didn't consider that?
No need to wonder, the city DID do that.

The city offered him another building nearby (the Baker's Square building) and also offered him a space in the redeveloped "main street" area of Cedar Grove.

Mediterranean Cruise Cafe wasn't forced out of the city, the neighborhood, or even the area. It was just forced to relocate from an area that was slated for urban renewal as something other than a restaurant. The Cafe is moving to Burnsville because (1) the Heart of the City development hasn't been as successful as was hoped so they are willing to offer incentives for moving and (2) it seems the Cafe owners have some bitter feelings toward the city about having to move.

To suggest that this restaurant was singled out for any reason completely belies the facts. It is incredibly dishonest and repugnant for any person who knows better to suggest it. Plenty of other businesses were relocated as well, many of which didn't want to.

As others have said, it's too bad that the owner is moving but at least he was given enough compensation from the city so that the restaurant can afford to move, expand, and be upgraded in a location near enough for its current customers.
Be honest

New York, NY

#25 Jun 27, 2008
none wrote:
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They reportedly offered him a 6000 sq ft space with shared parking as an even trade for his current 40,000 sq ft property - including the parking lot. He told them to pound sand and went to Burnsville. They have treated this guy like crap for the past couple of years. He'll do just fine in Burnsville. It might even help invigorate the 'Fart of the City', as another poster called it.
It's not accurate to say the Cafe had a "40,000 sq ft property." Commercial real estate is measured by usable square feet of building space, not the amount of dying grass between the parking lot and the curb. My understanding is that the swap would have given them (1) more usable square feet,(2) more than enough parking for its customers,(3) access to more customers through transit and walking. Do I misunderstand?

The cafe wasn't making money off of parking spots or dead grass.
Small Business owner

Minneapolis, MN

#26 Jun 27, 2008
Be honest wrote:
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No need to wonder, the city DID do that.
The city offered him another building nearby (the Baker's Square building) and also offered him a space in the redeveloped "main street" area of Cedar Grove.
Mediterranean Cruise Cafe wasn't forced out of the city, the neighborhood, or even the area. It was just forced to relocate from an area that was slated for urban renewal as something other than a restaurant. The Cafe is moving to Burnsville because (1) the Heart of the City development hasn't been as successful as was hoped so they are willing to offer incentives for moving and (2) it seems the Cafe owners have some bitter feelings toward the city about having to move.
To suggest that this restaurant was singled out for any reason completely belies the facts. It is incredibly dishonest and repugnant for any person who knows better to suggest it. Plenty of other businesses were relocated as well, many of which didn't want to.
As others have said, it's too bad that the owner is moving but at least he was given enough compensation from the city so that the restaurant can afford to move, expand, and be upgraded in a location near enough for its current customers.
The Baker's Square property is miles away, almost as far away as you can get in Eagan from Cedarvale. I would almost wager the new Burnsville location is closer. As for you, I recognize your rhetoric from a different name on a different thread. All of us can see right through your name change. Go Uhaul owner.......Oh, and by the way, you forgot the cronyism that left Jensen's and the bowling alley intact, even though these owners offered to upgrade their buildings. You also neglect private parking vs. shared parking offered. You consistently minimalize the negative while playing up the supposed positives.....which no one but you can see.
Small Business owner

Minneapolis, MN

#27 Jun 27, 2008
Be honest wrote:
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It's not accurate to say the Cafe had a "40,000 sq ft property." Commercial real estate is measured by usable square feet of building space, not the amount of dying grass between the parking lot and the curb. My understanding is that the swap would have given them (1) more usable square feet,(2) more than enough parking for its customers,(3) access to more customers through transit and walking. Do I misunderstand?
The cafe wasn't making money off of parking spots or dead grass.
a 6000 sf leased space......with shared parking. Once again, your understanding.....I am sure the lease would have been at above market prices, based on previous positions the city has taken trying to unfairly remove property from these owners at the lowest possible price.
New news

New York, NY

#28 Jan 16, 2009
So to those posters who tried to argue that this area wasn't blighted and wasn't in need of intervention... recent news has really shown how bad the area was. There was a brothel in the area, catering to seedy clients from the metro area. And now we find out that criminal charges are being brought against an area business owner who allegedly committed arson to get money from his insurance company. (Apparently, it wasn't profitable for him to run an honest business in that run-down area.) This is exactly the sort of blighted area that requires the city to do its job and clean it up. I'm glad that's happening.
New news

New York, NY

#29 Jan 16, 2009
Small Business owner wrote:
<quoted text>The Baker's Square property is miles away, almost as far away as you can get in Eagan from Cedarvale.
This is a patent lie. Cedarvale is two miles due south. That's very, very close for a big city like Eagan. And the location, more importantly, remains just as easily accessible from the same main thoroughfares (including Cedar, 13, Nicols, and Rahn) and area cities (Burnsville, Apple Valley, Bloomington, and Eagan). The Baker's Square property is in the nearest commercial area in Eagan. Town's Square and Promenade, the other major retail/restaurant destinations in Eagan, would be farther away and wouldn't cater to the same customer base.

Also, don't forget that the Mediterranean Cruise Cafe was also offered a spot IN THE SAME LOCATION. The planners offered to give it affordable space in the redeveloped area.

If you have to resort to lies to make your argument, perhaps there is something wrong with your argument.

“Wher's dem turkey necks?”

Since: Dec 08

Palm Desert, CA

#30 Jan 16, 2009
Been a resident of Eagan since 1986. A good friend of ours has a family member of the Eagan Police Department for many, many years. This person who I also know socially told me the number one police criminal activity in Eagan is the Cedarvale area. Far and away #1. Most of it regards those apartments up on Rahn Rd. Now Eagan itself is not a high crime problem city like some close to it are, but that area gets the most police calls according to our friend.
I do shake my head at our city fathers decisions. The Carriage Hills golf course fiasco comes to mind. The amount of our taxes spent on that issue was disgusting and that November ballot question was written by a kindergartner. Now with the downturn in economy, I would be willing to bet the land will stay the way it sits right now for years. Unless the developer has his financing locked up tight nothing will happen. Maybe the Rahn's could turn it into a driving range.
Pragmatist

Burnsville, MN

#31 Mar 9, 2009
New news wrote:
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This is a patent lie. Cedarvale is two miles due south. That's very, very close for a big city like Eagan. And the location, more importantly, remains just as easily accessible from the same main thoroughfares (including Cedar, 13, Nicols, and Rahn) and area cities (Burnsville, Apple Valley, Bloomington, and Eagan). The Baker's Square property is in the nearest commercial area in Eagan. Town's Square and Promenade, the other major retail/restaurant destinations in Eagan, would be farther away and wouldn't cater to the same customer base.
Also, don't forget that the Mediterranean Cruise Cafe was also offered a spot IN THE SAME LOCATION. The planners offered to give it affordable space in the redeveloped area.
If you have to resort to lies to make your argument, perhaps there is something wrong with your argument.
Cedarvale is two miles due south of Cliff Road and 35E, where the Baker's Square is? Mapqwest it genius. Town Centre would also be closer by the way. Additionally, the city lowballed those owners multiple times, and wouldn't give them access or the offer for the independent assessed values the city paid for with tax dollars.

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