Twin Cities nurses begin voting on contract offer

There are 51 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 6, 2010, titled Twin Cities nurses begin voting on contract offer. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Rather than walk off the job in a massive strike, thousands of Twin Cities nurses began voting at 6 a.m. today on a proposed contract agreement.

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sophia

United States

#43 Jul 6, 2010
the truth is hard to swallow nurses..the union caved...no doubt about it and left some strong willed, loud nurses touting the patient safety...looking like fools. To be fair though...the union had to cave ...so many nurses had already resigned from mna and hundreds planned to cross at Allina alone..they had no choice.....the union would have been dismantled. 3 years from now when the nurses start this "we care for you" bull....no one will buy it.
Bullys....ya did it to yourselves..
Cop Out

Saint Paul, MN

#44 Jul 6, 2010
Those signs should all be painted over. They shouldn't say "We care for you", they should say, "We care for $"
FL Guy

Cambridge, MN

#45 Jul 6, 2010
UNIONS ROCK wrote:
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Explain why you say this. HealthEast Home Care just joined MNA a couple of weeks ago and the nurses at Regions Hospital may join MNA as well.
They may choose to join but their power weakens overall.
Not Your Way

Saint Paul, MN

#46 Jul 6, 2010
Vote NO! Nurses need a good spanking of reality. The old, militant, loud will get canned and we can start fresh with young, cute, recently schooled in the latest methods who will have much better attitudes.
Insider

Saint Paul, MN

#47 Jul 6, 2010
And wrote:
You people need to get your fact together before bad mouthing nurses. They were asking for 3% raises for each of the three years…They conceded to 0% first year, 1% Second Year, and 2% Third Year that the hospital where offering.(Hospital Victory)
The real fact in the raises is what they settled for is on top of 3% step increase raises each year too. So year 1 is a 3% raise, year 2 is 4% and year 3 is 5%. So yes it is about the money. The only nurses that don't get the step raises get longevity bonuses of several thousand dollars depending on how long they have been there.
UNIONS ROCK

Minneapolis, MN

#48 Jul 6, 2010
FL Guy wrote:
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They may choose to join but their power weakens overall.
Increased members = overall weakness????? Please enlighten me.
UNIONS ROCK

Minneapolis, MN

#49 Jul 6, 2010
Insider wrote:
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The real fact in the raises is what they settled for is on top of 3% step increase raises each year too. So year 1 is a 3% raise, year 2 is 4% and year 3 is 5%. So yes it is about the money. The only nurses that don't get the step raises get longevity bonuses of several thousand dollars depending on how long they have been there.
You're no insider because you don't know what your talking about. There's no 3& raise on top of the 0,1 and 2%. Our salary is based on length of service which stops at 25 years. And longevity bonus for 25-29 years is a MAXIMUM of $2000. Get your facts straight.
Joyful Joyful

United States

#50 Jul 7, 2010
UNIONS ROCK wrote:
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Explain why you say this. HealthEast Home Care just joined MNA a couple of weeks ago and the nurses at Regions Hospital may join MNA as well.
1948 31.8%
1984 18.8%
2009 12.3%

As their numbers dwindle so does their bargaining power - as witnessed in this current contract negotiations. Replacement nurses stood at the ready to begin working and the hospitals had no fear of going that route. So what power did the union really have?
MFB

Gardner, KS

#51 Jul 7, 2010
Tony S wrote:
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MFB, you don't get what people are saying. I think you should re-read the comments. No one is villifying what nurses do for a living. The nurses union made 'patient care' their central argument to the public and media. In the end, patient care didn't matter as the only thing they cared about was protecting their pension and getting raises. They should have just been honest with themselves and the pubic that money was their primary driving force behind a strike. I agree with the others. Since patient care was the central arguing point, I fully expect nurses to vote no today and go on strike.
Tony, I DO get what people are saying but I also feel the "people" don't get the issues. For nurses, it is about the patients; it's the union and the hospitals which are all about the money. For hospitals it is not about the nurses or the patients, it is about the money for CEO and administrative salaries and fountains in the lobby. For the union, it is not about the nurses or the patients, it is about the union. The battle for salaries and benefits vs. staffing levels was waged between the hospitals and the union. The union does not represent me and my views any more than my current public official represents me or my views.
Stormer

Eden Prairie, MN

#52 Jul 7, 2010
The Nurses and their union have been saying that this is all about staffing and patient-to-nurse ratios. And what is the one thing missing from the contract? Patient-to-nurse staffing ratios.

While I love nurses and what they do, this whole thing is just another money-grab by the union.

And the patients continue to suffer the consequences.
Insider

Saint Paul, MN

#53 Jul 7, 2010
UNIONS ROCK wrote:
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You're no insider because you don't know what your talking about. There's no 3& raise on top of the 0,1 and 2%. Our salary is based on length of service which stops at 25 years. And longevity bonus for 25-29 years is a MAXIMUM of $2000. Get your facts straight.
So your denying the step raises that I am looking at in your contract right now? Reread what I wrote, it is correct except maybe the bonus because I didn't have that in front of me at the time.

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