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Ahead of planned strike, Twin Cities nurses link staffing issues, t...

There are 94 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jun 8, 2010, titled Ahead of planned strike, Twin Cities nurses link staffing issues, t.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Seeking to build public support before Thursday's strike, the union representing 12,000 Twin Cities hospital nurses on Tuesday offered grim stories of patients dying or suffering because of too few nurses.

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Freedom Lover

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Jun 9, 2010
Maybe it's just me but I think teachers should be intellectual, politicians should be ethical and nurses should be healthy. That said, based on the levels of obesity amongst nurses I'd like to suggest that they consider a few more rounds and a lot less carbs. Perhaps then, they would enhoy a more sympathetic audience.
Ambulance driver

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Jun 9, 2010
The hospitals are saying there will be no change when the nurses go out. That being said both United and St. Joes ER's have been closed to ambulances for the entire day (6/8) in anticipation of not having enough nurses on the day of the strike. Several individuals who called 911 today were taken to Regions ER when they wanted to go to United or St. Joes. This is happening two days prior so I believe the Hospitals are full of B.S. when they say it will be operations as usual.
Sandy

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Jun 9, 2010
The nurses are telling the truth.

My own family experienced a death due to a stupid pool nurse who did not follow the med orders correctly.

Under staffing is very dangerous.
Just Me

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Jun 9, 2010
Sandy wrote:
The nurses are telling the truth.
My own family experienced a death due to a stupid pool nurse who did not follow the med orders correctly.
Under staffing is very dangerous.
So, was it the fact that a nurse didn't follow med orders correctly, or because the hospital was understaffed? Two different problems here.

I have been fortunate to have been only hospitalized twice in my life-to have babies. Both of those times, I do not recall ever feeling like the nurses were too busy to provide care to me (C-sections for both). I was monitored before, during, and after by nurses for 3 days without incident. My babies and I were checked on routinely and if I needed something, they were right there.

I'm still uncertain what these nurses think a one day strike is going to accomplish.
Observer

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Jun 9, 2010
Yes, yes, roll the scare tactics, please! Because your problems are the only things we should worry about, too!

http://www.examiner.com/x-36867-Minneapolis-E...
dELIA

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Jun 9, 2010
Just Me wrote:
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So, was it the fact that a nurse didn't follow med orders correctly, or because the hospital was understaffed? Two different problems here.
I have been fortunate to have been only hospitalized twice in my life-to have babies. Both of those times, I do not recall ever feeling like the nurses were too busy to provide care to me (C-sections for both). I was monitored before, during, and after by nurses for 3 days without incident. My babies and I were checked on routinely and if I needed something, they were right there.
I'm still uncertain what these nurses think a one day strike is going to accomplish.
Sandy, just because the nurse's were there when you needed them did not mean that were not busy. Did you ever step outside your door and see them attending to the other 3 patients that they had? Probably not. You can not talk about if a nurse is busy unless you are one and walk in our shoes!
Concerned

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Jun 9, 2010
Funny how the CEO's bonus' are never mentioned and they are the ones who want to cut back on everything. I bet their Healthcare and pension are never questioned are cut back on!!!
Disgusted

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Jun 9, 2010
Maybe these nurses need to become private nurses if they can only take care of that many patients. It's all about the money!
skyrocket

Elk River, MN

#11 Jun 9, 2010
The fact of the matter is, health care costs are going to skyrocket because Obama's health care bill did nothing to lower costs, all it did was expand the welfare program at a cost of well over a trillion dollars to the taxpayer. Nice work Obama
Are you kidding

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Jun 9, 2010
Just Me wrote:
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So, was it the fact that a nurse didn't follow med orders correctly, or because the hospital was understaffed? Two different problems here.
I have been fortunate to have been only hospitalized twice in my life-to have babies. Both of those times, I do not recall ever feeling like the nurses were too busy to provide care to me (C-sections for both). I was monitored before, during, and after by nurses for 3 days without incident. My babies and I were checked on routinely and if I needed something, they were right there.
I'm still uncertain what these nurses think a one day strike is going to accomplish.
I'm still uncertain how they can even call it a strike;
it is nothing more than a very long news conference.
They are counting on the news stations all covering their
every move, getting free exposure, and then going back to
work having only missed one days pay. I don't have a dog
in this fight; I can see both sides. But if you believe
in your fight then strike and fight the fight. If not,
then negotiate the best deal you can and stay on the job.
Don't try to do both at the same time.
get to work

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Jun 9, 2010
I think they should all be fired!!!!!.Its just about money.Just like teachers use its for the children. Get to work are get fired.
east sider

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Jun 9, 2010
Sounds like the union is trying to get its way by taking advantage of others' grief. They're following the lead of Rahm Emanuel who said no crisis should go to waste. They just completely lost any sympathy I might have had. I'd like to see the nurses locked out and fired.
Deal

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Jun 9, 2010
How about the nurses lose the defined benefit pension plan for a 401k, lose the union health care plan extras, and in return get the staffing levels they want?
TAZ

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Jun 9, 2010
most of these post today I realy don't think every one has a clue what it like to work in the health care business when they say they are under staffed they are and if you speak up about it your gone or told to bad I work ing the health care but not as a nusre. I see these nurses bust there butts for to care for people. may be the CEO's of these hospitals should get away from behind there desk once in a while to see what they go though hear there complaints. health care is up beacuse are hospitals are charging more. why don't the CEO's and upper management show what they are taking home so to the public beleave the workers not the upper managment
Old nurse

Windham, NH

#18 Jun 9, 2010
dELIA wrote:
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Sandy, just because the nurse's were there when you needed them did not mean that were not busy. Did you ever step outside your door and see them attending to the other 3 patients that they had? Probably not. You can not talk about if a nurse is busy unless you are one and walk in our shoes!
So you're saying the staffing ratio is 1 nurse for 4 patients on an obstetrics unit? If that's 'unsafe', then shame on the nurses - you're not doing your jobs. My guess is that you stand around whining and complaining about it more than taking care of your patients. Patient safety is suffering right now because you're consumed with this strike. I'd be more afraid of being in one of these hospitals now than the day you're on strike.
Greed

Lakeville, MN

#19 Jun 9, 2010
Greed
umm

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Jun 9, 2010
Ambulance driver wrote:
The hospitals are saying there will be no change when the nurses go out. That being said both United and St. Joes ER's have been closed to ambulances for the entire day (6/8) in anticipation of not having enough nurses on the day of the strike. Several individuals who called 911 today were taken to Regions ER when they wanted to go to United or St. Joes. This is happening two days prior so I believe the Hospitals are full of B.S. when they say it will be operations as usual.
So then we can blame the nurses for any deaths for leaving the hospitals short staffed. Or is that just a one way street?
umm

Minneapolis, MN

#21 Jun 9, 2010
Sandy wrote:
The nurses are telling the truth.
My own family experienced a death due to a stupid pool nurse who did not follow the med orders correctly.
Under staffing is very dangerous.
Maybe it was just their time to go?
Riot

Madison, WI

#22 Jun 9, 2010
I'm wondering about the posts that say the nurses are working hard. Okay, it's their job to work and they are being paid to work not stand around and fill their faces. I go to work each day and work hard and earn my pay. What is the difference? Should they be paid to stand around? The hospital is trying to control their costs and the nurses are trying to get the best deal they can. It comes down to money, one wants to keep it and one wants to take it. They have to work out the deal without resorting to such blantant fear mongering. I have very little sympathy for the nurses and their union. How about changing the benefits to fit in line with the rest of us.
umm

Minneapolis, MN

#23 Jun 9, 2010
dELIA wrote:
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Sandy, just because the nurse's were there when you needed them did not mean that were not busy. Did you ever step outside your door and see them attending to the other 3 patients that they had? Probably not. You can not talk about if a nurse is busy unless you are one and walk in our shoes!
Aren't you suppose to be busy at work?

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