Twin Cities nurses plan vote on possi...

Twin Cities nurses plan vote on possible open-ended strike

There are 166 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jun 14, 2010, titled Twin Cities nurses plan vote on possible open-ended strike. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Nurses reportedly will vote next Monday on whether to pursue an open-ended strike against 14 Twin Cities hospitals.

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gwisahoax

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Jun 14, 2010
"The nurses and hospitals remain deadlocked over pay increases, benefit eligibility, pension cuts and staffing levels. The dispute over staffing levels appears the most contentious. The nurses say strict nurse-to-patient ratios are needed to ensure they have manageable and safe numbers of patients in their care at all times."

I truely fail to understand how an industry that continuously boasts high rates of revenue and budget increases year after year (even in this economy), wants to chisel their nurses. It might appear that the industry is taking advantage of the down economy to push cuts through. It would be a lot easier to replace nurses now with the high unemployment. Will they be good nurses?

Personally, the pension cuts seem like the big issue to me.
EaganRes

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Jun 15, 2010
Comment from Neighbor "It was so bad at the Hospital, no one knew what the hell they were doing. Those replacement Nurses had no idea what drugs they were hanging." I think it's time for the Hospitals to go back to the table.
ED RN

Duluth, MN

#5 Jun 15, 2010
EaganRes:
You're spot on correct; TCH needs to quit the lies and negotiate in GOOD FAITH.
bri

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Jun 15, 2010
Both sides need to compromise.
ED RN

Duluth, MN

#7 Jun 15, 2010
bri wrote:
Both sides need to compromise.
Actually MNA offered compromises at both post-strike vote sessions. TCH has stonewalled any effort at compromise. There is NO intent to bargain by the employers.

By the way, MNA offered 13 days available and TCH stated they would only book 2. Not exactly behaviors of entities interested the least bit about negotiating. Add the mouthpiece M. Schriner who spews the lies and disinformation constantly to the public.

Then some TCH employers stage a selective lockout.

Tell me this is a "negotiation" from the employers... yeah, right!
Cardinal Corner

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Jun 15, 2010
Fire all the nurses that strike
Impatient

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Jun 15, 2010
The real facts are that any strike is a strike against patients - not hospitals. What did I do to be treated this way?
Ronald R

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Jun 15, 2010
What the nurses have to realize is this is the "New Economy" and they can thank their union (and other unions) for electing someone to the Whitehouse who is unqualified. They will have to cross train or be out of a job. It's not about patient ratios it's all about the $$$$$. If they can't come to an agreement FIRE THEM ALL! There are enough replacement nurses who have the same education that would love to have their jobs. Between the nurses union and the teachers union I don't know wich one is the biggest bunch of morons.
P.S. I am a union member and have never voted for a candidate they have approved.
qnmimi

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Jun 15, 2010
I say lock both sides up together until an agreement is reached, and lets not have a reason to go on another strike!
U2Care

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Jun 15, 2010
I have lost all respect for the politicians (Dayton, Entenza, Kelliher) who have jumped on the strike bandwagon. Great way to receive free publicity without understanding the issues. Once again, it shows how little fiscal responsibility politicians have and I certainly don't want any of you running our great state.
Steve in Wyoming

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Jun 15, 2010
MNA filed an unfair labor practices complaint to keep the hospitals from permanently replacing their nurses during a strike. If a hearing is conducted on the merits of their complaint and the judge determines their complaint is without merit, 12,800 nurses in Minnesota will be looking for new jobs because the hospitals will never take them back. This would be their golden opportunity to pick-and-choose the nurses they want back. Once that happens, you can kiss the MNA good-bye. Ask the 10,000 plus air-traffic controllers how THEIR strike went in 1980. There hasn't been many, if any, court decisions in favor of labor in the last 30 years, so I wouldn't count on the courts for help. There will be 12,800 nurses trying to figure out what the h#!! just happened when they're locked out permanently. They're being hood-winked by union management acting tougher than they think they are. I hope the nurses can live on their unemployment... that's all they'll have when it's all over. Right now only 14% of the nurses in MNA work full-time. The hospitals will put an end to that! They'll force every nurse to work full-time, thereby reducing the need of 12,800 nurses down to about 4000. At the very least, we'll have 8000 nurses out of work. It's the wrong time and wrong economy for MNA to try to flex any remaining muscle.
Steve in Wyoming

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Jun 15, 2010
And I'm a union member, too. Just one who doesn't always drink the union's Kool-aid.
U2Care

Minneapolis, MN

#15 Jun 15, 2010
Hope the nurses think long and hard how they want to vote on Monday. Many do not understand they are being led by media grubbing union leaders both locally and nationally who only care for the attention not the impact on patients, staff or community. The one-day strike was a non-event with patients cared for by highly skilled, caring nurses.
Insider

Hastings, MN

#16 Jun 15, 2010
Go strike, then you can thank your union, hello what economy are you in.
Impatient

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Jun 15, 2010
Ronald R wrote:
What the nurses have to realize is this is the "New Economy" and they can thank their union (and other unions) for electing someone to the Whitehouse who is unqualified. They will have to cross train or be out of a job. It's not about patient ratios it's all about the $$$$$. If they can't come to an agreement FIRE THEM ALL! There are enough replacement nurses who have the same education that would love to have their jobs. Between the nurses union and the teachers union I don't know wich one is the biggest bunch of morons.
P.S. I am a union member and have never voted for a candidate they have approved.
So now it's Obama's fault? I don't think you want to start the argument of who has been 'unqualified' in the White House. Not relevant to this topic anyway. However, I do agree with your position that the unions are the problem. Unions had value in their time of ensuring safe and equitable working conditions for laborers. The days of needing union protection has been obsolete for many years, at least in most professions. The nurses need to wise up and fire this union.
Steve in Wyoming

Minneapolis, MN

#18 Jun 15, 2010
And for those picking nits, it was 11,350 of about 13,000 air traffic controllers who lost their jobs in the 1981 strike. Their union management (PATCO) acted a lot like MNA management is acting.
wtf

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Jun 15, 2010
Lambs to slaughter!
tww

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Jun 15, 2010
Replace the nurses. There are plenty of people who have been laid off, including nurses, that would gladly have those jobs. Now is not the time to be greedy.
Jim Stevenson

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Jun 15, 2010
Fire the nurses, disband the union, and start over. Those who are willing to work should be thankful they have a job at all in this economy, much less complain about the one they do have. If one doesn't like it, they are free to switch careers. To me it's like moving next to the airport and then complaining about the noise.
wow

Saint Paul, MN

#22 Jun 15, 2010
This isn't the 1920s. Currently nurses get paid a fair wage, they receive vacations, holidays pay, lunch breaks, and other benefits. Hospitals aren't a sweatshop!

Patient safety...meh. This is about the wanting MORE money in a sour economy. Feel free to walk, but don't complain to us when you are permanently replaced!

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