Twin Cities nurses voting on potential second hospital strike

Full story: TwinCities.com

Nurses were expected to vote tonight to endorse an open-ended strike of the 14 hospitals at which they work, giving their union leverage as it seeks to resuscitate contract negotiations over pay, pension and nurse staffing levels.
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Confused

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Jun 26, 2010
 
Cardinal Corner wrote:
United will be firing the majority of their nurses if they strike again. This includes Med.Surg and Oncology. Anyone who represents the union as in a union steward will be terminated along with anyone that has received any type of corrective action in the last 12 months. If you fall into one of these groups, you had better cross that picket line. Remember, you wont get any unemployment !!
May I ask where you got this information??? From what I understand they can only terminate RN's if it's ruled an economic strike and can't fire anyone if a judge rules that it's an unfair labor strike.
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Ignorance abounds here!!!
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FIRE THEM ALL!- Do you really want a new grad. or a RN with no hospital experience as the RN caring for you or a loved one? Or a RN with years of training & experienced in the speciality areas like cardiac, neuro, ortho, oncology, etc. caring for you?
THEY'RE LAZY!- Do you believe RN's can provide the same level of care if we're assigned 5-6 patients, when we have difficulty properly caring for 4? Do you think it's safe for a RN to care for 5-6 patients on a unit where they've never worked and have no training or experience?
THEY'RE GREEDY!- Why would we go on strike and get paid $0 for however long, pay $1300-$4000 a month for COBRA and risk losing our jobs for more money?? After missing 12 shifts, we would lose the entire 3 year raise if given 2% per year X 3 yrs. It doesn't make sense that it's all about the money. Maybe 5% of MN RN's get paid $79,000/year, the average pay is NOT $65,000/yr. After working 25 full time years a RN gets paid $45.45/hr (Bacc degree), there are no more step increases after 25 yrs. Few work full time because of the physical demands & the toll it's taken on our bodies.
Plumbers & electricians are paid about the same or more (plus benefits-health care, pension,etc.) Do RN's deserve less than they do??
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Confused wrote:
Ignorance abounds here!!!
The Facts
FIRE THEM ALL!- Do you really want a new grad. or a RN with no hospital experience as the RN caring for you or a loved one? Or a RN with years of training & experienced in the speciality areas like cardiac, neuro, ortho, oncology, etc. caring for you?
THEY'RE LAZY!- Do you believe RN's can provide the same level of care if we're assigned 5-6 patients, when we have difficulty properly caring for 4? Do you think it's safe for a RN to care for 5-6 patients on a unit where they've never worked and have no training or experience?
THEY'RE GREEDY!- Why would we go on strike and get paid $0 for however long, pay $1300-$4000 a month for COBRA and risk losing our jobs for more money?? After missing 12 shifts, we would lose the entire 3 year raise if given 2% per year X 3 yrs. It doesn't make sense that it's all about the money. Maybe 5% of MN RN's get paid $79,000/year, the average pay is NOT $65,000/yr. After working 25 full time years a RN gets paid $45.45/hr (Bacc degree), there are no more step increases after 25 yrs. Few work full time because of the physical demands & the toll it's taken on our bodies.
Plumbers & electricians are paid about the same or more (plus benefits-health care, pension,etc.) Do RN's deserve less than they do??
My name says it all.

You are either a liar or you are very, very confused.
Mike

Saint Cloud, MN

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Confused wrote:
Ignorance abounds here!!!
The Facts
FIRE THEM ALL!- Do you really want a new grad. or a RN with no hospital experience as the RN caring for you or a loved one? Or a RN with years of training & experienced in the speciality areas like cardiac, neuro, ortho, oncology, etc. caring for you?
THEY'RE LAZY!- Do you believe RN's can provide the same level of care if we're assigned 5-6 patients, when we have difficulty properly caring for 4? Do you think it's safe for a RN to care for 5-6 patients on a unit where they've never worked and have no training or experience?
THEY'RE GREEDY!- Why would we go on strike and get paid $0 for however long, pay $1300-$4000 a month for COBRA and risk losing our jobs for more money?? After missing 12 shifts, we would lose the entire 3 year raise if given 2% per year X 3 yrs. It doesn't make sense that it's all about the money. Maybe 5% of MN RN's get paid $79,000/year, the average pay is NOT $65,000/yr. After working 25 full time years a RN gets paid $45.45/hr (Bacc degree), there are no more step increases after 25 yrs. Few work full time because of the physical demands & the toll it's taken on our bodies.
Plumbers & electricians are paid about the same or more (plus benefits-health care, pension,etc.) Do RN's deserve less than they do??
This sounds like the exact same thing the Northwest Mechanics said about having quality people to work on the planes. Replace the RN with Airline Mechanic...now, read it again and realize what happened to the Airline Mechanics. That's going to be you. I'm not favoring the greedy hospitals. I'm just using common sense. They had no problem replacing you for a day. Do you think they'd have a problem replacing you permanently? Be sure about what you're doing here before you're on the outside looking in.

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