Twin Cities nurses voting on potential second hospital strike

Full story: TwinCities.com

Nurses were expected to vote tonight to endorse an open-ended strike of the 14 hospitals at which they work, giving their union leverage as it seeks to resuscitate contract negotiations over pay, pension and nurse staffing levels.
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Proposals for a larger staff is one thing...a 10% raise plus better benefits is a bunch of greedy nurses who think they deserve much more than they truly do.
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Fire all of them and replace them with people willing to work. If they want to control the company then they should start their own and see how easy it is.

They are by no means be underpaid or treated unfairly. Everyone in this country is overworked right now.

This is all about money. What a slap in the face by the nurses to their employers, co-wokers, and most importantly their patients.

Unions are ruining this country.
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The first strike didn't work, another one day strike won't work either. And, an extended strike or sick-out won't get you any sympathy in this economy. Are hospitals ripping all of us off? Certainly, as is every other arm of healthcare. But this bunch is just asking to be permanently replaced, and we've seen that before. The hospitals are confident because they had no trouble finding fill-ins. And if they'd fill-in for a day, they'd be willing to fill-in permanently.
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Wow wrote:
Proposals for a larger staff is one thing...a 10% raise plus better benefits is a bunch of greedy nurses who think they deserve much more than they truly do.
That's why the public relations dept. of the nurses union focuses on a bigger staff in every news story. The rest makes you sound greedy. Of course, anything healthcare is the epitome of greedy in the last 12 years.
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You have a nice paying job with great benefits. Average work week is 30 hours. Please vote to strike and vote yourselves out of a job, thanks to your union leaders. Rembember Northwest Airlines mechanics strike? It worked out great for them didn't it. Three neighbors of mine lost their great paying jobs, all making much less than they were at NW. Unions are a waste of money.
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I wish instead of being in denial that some of us do not support YOUR strike you would stop and use the critical thinking skills nurses are purported to have. In this economy, you are going to strike....REALLY! You honestly believe there are enough "odd jobs" that will get you by when you are without a paycheck. If they existed, would we have so many who can't eat or are losing their homes?

and BTW, you care for us so much that you will leave us in the hands of unqualified scabs (your words) that your employer has no choice to hire because you walked out. I don't think the saying "When the going gets tough, the tough get going" means walking out the door. Oh and save the comments that my opinion doesn't matter, that I'm a union hater (seriously considering crossing that line after this) or that I'm a paid by the hospital........

To both sides, stop the grandstanding, and negotiate.
cycle your future

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retired md wrote:
Fire all of them and replace them with people willing to work. If they want to control the company then they should start their own and see how easy it is.
They are by no means be underpaid or treated unfairly. Everyone in this country is overworked right now.
This is all about money. What a slap in the face by the nurses to their employers, co-wokers, and most importantly their patients.
Unions are ruining this country.
"retired MD": "Unions are ruining this country." You're a FRAUD!! YOU and your cohorts belong too one of the largest/lobbying unions in the country...the AMA!!! The 'union' that has fought health care reform for decades...until now! You have NEVER walked in our shoes sir (only a 'handful' have). You better go hide!
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They'll strike. It's been what they have wanted all along. The "talks" were just a smoke screen. Members of the MNA are just a bunch of lemmings marching towards the cliff.
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Just went to the MNA website. Holidays: If you take vacation, you cannot earn overtime pay. 280 hour vacation bank(7 weeks) is trying to be capped. Check out what other major companies are doing. 3M has reduced their vacation bankable weeks 2 years ago. Take vacation time off and expect to come back to overtime pay? Welcome to the real world.
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Wow wrote:
Proposals for a larger staff is one thing...a 10% raise plus better benefits is a bunch of greedy nurses who think they deserve much more than they truly do.
Funny how these nurses just dont get it. Tell your union do drop the wage increase and focus on better staffing. Do that and the public may take you a little more seriously.
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Since the CEO of Allina is refusing to take a paycheck until this issue is resolved, I would suggest the MNA president do the same.
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Oh no I'm nuts or clueless whatever will I do.....
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I feel bad for the nurses who want to stay at work to support their family's. They cannot do so as they will be labeled "scabs" by their peers and essentially shunned. So much for the great freedom that a union brings, you don't even have the freedom to work and support your family without being an outcast. People have evolved so much from when unions were first created. Unions were created to protect workers from unfair work conditions (like workings 14-16 hour days...6 days a week). If an average salary of 60-70k a year is "unfair" I am surely getting screwed at my current salary.
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Patients before profits?! That's what their signs say. They should be honest - the signs should read "Profits from Patients for Piggy Nurses Pocketbooks."
how does MNA explain

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hmm... thomas reuters just announced that one of the hospitals whose staffing is so horrible according to MNA that patient safety is at risk is one of the TOP TEN health systems in the NATION - with lower mortality and lower complications - see article at http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp... Fairview was named alongside some of the most prominent places for care in the nation. So, what is MNA's response - there is scientific research about the excellent quality our hospitals provide... so MNA, where is there scientific research SPECIFIC TO OUR HOSPITALS ... seems like we already have nation-leading care here, yet MNA propoganda would like you to believe otherwise... I feel very sad for those nurses being led by the union to believe that striking is in the best interest of "our patients" - the best interest of patients is to stay at your job, continue to provide the great care that you already do, and get back to the bargaining table.
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Its all about patient care... and to prove it they are going on strike and will stay away from the hospital and patients for as long as it takes and regardless of who suffers. But I'll bet if the hospital offers them more pay they'll end the strike and will spin it into that they're returning to the patients who need them.
THE ANSWER IS NEVER

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When did the MNA last pay their member's paychecks? If you hate the hospital that you work for so much, QUIT.
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they mean and they greedy...
I LOVE BEEF

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EL OH EL wrote:
Greedy fats cows.
Hey now, what do you have against cows?
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The Union says it isn't about money, but all Commie Unions are ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY! The nurses are just unfortunate dupes of the Union. They may starve to death, but they'll do what the Union desires. Stupid is as stipid does.

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