Union vote at Jimmy John's

Union vote at Jimmy John's

There are 156 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Oct 21, 2010, titled Union vote at Jimmy John's. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Jimmy John's restaurants are known for serving attitude with their sandwiches. Many of their young workers wear nose rings, beards and dreadlocks, and the shops sport mottoes like "The Customer Is Usually Right" and "Subs So Fast You'll Freak." But recently, employees at 10 west-metro Twin Cities shops have started to exude more attitude than ...

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MS MGR

Minneapolis, MN

#143 Nov 2, 2010
djconklin wrote:
>The laborers are Union, the administrative and sales staff are not.
Yeah, that's typical.
>allows nonproductive and chemical abusers to keep their jobs and makes it virtually impossible to fire anyone.
There are steps one can take to remove them from the rolls. It just can't be alleged.
>What a damn joke!
Did I use any swear words in your presence?
It isn't "alleged" chemical use on the job. If someone is suspected of being under the influence while on the job, the worker is subjected to a drug test. If found to be a positive result, you cannot fire the worker and the worker is given an unpaid leave of absence and required to enter some type of chemical abuse treatment program. However, the worker's job is held and must be returned to him upon successful completion of treatment. You cannot "remove him from the rolls". In most non-union jobs, you are fired, as you should be if you make the choice to come to work on drugs or alcohol! Unions make employees blameless for their own poor behavior. That's a damn joke too, excuse my french!

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#144 Nov 3, 2010
>It isn't "alleged" chemical use on the job.

Some have been alleged and it turned out to be a medical condition: 1) a contradiction between two meds, 2) the meds were having a negative side effect with the condition the patient was suffering from and 3) a person with epilepsy was accused of being on drugs.

>However, the worker's job is held and must be returned to him upon successful completion of treatment.

Note the word "successful."

>In most non-union jobs, you are fired, as you should be if you make the choice to come to work on drugs or alcohol!

Just as a I thought; more interested in punitive active that reformation. As God said in the Bible: With what measure you judge, ye will be judged.

>That's a damn joke too, excuse my french!

It was uncalled for and reveals your lack of social graces to function as a productive member of society. Move out.
Not as Delusional as You

Saint Paul, MN

#145 Nov 3, 2010
djconklin wrote:
>It isn't "alleged" chemical use on the job.
Some have been alleged and it turned out to be a medical condition: 1) a contradiction between two meds, 2) the meds were having a negative side effect with the condition the patient was suffering from and 3) a person with epilepsy was accused of being on drugs.
>However, the worker's job is held and must be returned to him upon successful completion of treatment.
Note the word "successful."
>In most non-union jobs, you are fired, as you should be if you make the choice to come to work on drugs or alcohol!
Just as a I thought; more interested in punitive active that reformation. As God said in the Bible: With what measure you judge, ye will be judged.
>That's a damn joke too, excuse my french!
It was uncalled for and reveals your lack of social graces to function as a productive member of society. Move out.
Cherry picking sentences from an entire post, maybe it is you that is dysfunctional.
Get A Clue

Minneapolis, MN

#146 Nov 3, 2010
djconklin wrote:
>It isn't "alleged" chemical use on the job.
Some have been alleged and it turned out to be a medical condition: 1) a contradiction between two meds, 2) the meds were having a negative side effect with the condition the patient was suffering from and 3) a person with epilepsy was accused of being on drugs.
>However, the worker's job is held and must be returned to him upon successful completion of treatment.
Note the word "successful."
>In most non-union jobs, you are fired, as you should be if you make the choice to come to work on drugs or alcohol!
Just as a I thought; more interested in punitive active that reformation. As God said in the Bible: With what measure you judge, ye will be judged.
>That's a damn joke too, excuse my french!
It was uncalled for and reveals your lack of social graces to function as a productive member of society. Move out.
You need to move out. We have enough idiots in our society as it is and don't need one more like you. Your posts are pure drivel with no proof of what you say or facts to back you up. Move on.

Since: Feb 09

United States

#147 Nov 3, 2010
MS MGR wrote:
<quoted text>
I work for a Construction firm. The laborers are Union, the administrative and sales staff are not. I'm the Office Manager, so I am not Union (thank God) but I work with allot of things involving the Union. What I see that the Union does is obtain wage increases for workers that do not deserve an increase due to their poor performance, allows nonproductive and chemical abusers to keep their jobs and makes it virtually impossible to fire anyone. But when most of the work you do is for government entities, you are forced to have Union workers or you don't get the work. Why wouldn't the workers want a Union? Oh, they complain about their Union fees and dues, but allot of them wouldn't have their high paying jobs without the Unions. Most of our workers are making $25 -$45 per hour, based on their job classification. I don't make that much, yet I'm supposed to supervise some of the work they do. What a damn joke!
ha ha ha, you fell for the white collar and now you are getting stiffed by the Company. LOL
MS MGR

Minneapolis, MN

#148 Nov 4, 2010
sigrid wrote:
<quoted text>
ha ha ha, you fell for the white collar and now you are getting stiffed by the Company. LOL
I am not being stiffed by my Company, I am being paid a fair wage for the services I provide to my employer. My employer is being forced to pay higher wages to the Union laborers, however not because the workers deserve it. While everyone would like to make more money, I am happy to receive the wages that I do as I have earned my salary. I'm not being paid more then I should be because my employer is forced to pay me. When I receive a wage increase, I know that it is because I deserve it as I perform my job duties well and feel proud that I am recognized by my employer by giving me a raise. Union workers receive wage increases based on their contracts, not due to merit. Where is their sense of pride? People with your attitude want something for nothing. At least I have integrity and self respect. I cannot say the same for many pro Union laborers who like to feel that they are "sticking it to the man."

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#149 Nov 4, 2010
>Cherry picking sentences from an entire post, maybe it is you that is dysfunctional.

There's no requirement to deal with each and every single clause. If you show that they are weaknesses in a number of their points then it calls into question their entire position. Basic education 101.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#150 Nov 4, 2010
>We have enough idiots in our society as it is and don't need one more like you. Your posts are pure drivel with no proof of what you say or facts to back you up.

Love the proof for that.
Deng

Chengdu, China

#151 Nov 5, 2010
THIS IS LABOR VERSUS CAPITAL. READ SOME K. MARX AND TRY TO COMPREHEND THAT U.S. CAPITALISM FOR SURE IS OVER.

Let's see, they unionize to make more money but now have to pay dues. And in order to offset the additional costs JJ has to pay their employees, the prices of their sandwiches, et al. go up. Which in turn could drop demand some.
Not worth it. If you are unhappy working there for the wages you get, find someplace else.
Nate wrote:
Let's see, they unionize to make more money but now have to pay dues. And in order to offset the additional costs JJ has to pay their employees, the prices of their sandwiches, et al. go up. Which in turn could drop demand some.
Not worth it. If you are unhappy working there for the wages you get, find someplace else.

Since: Feb 09

United States

#152 Nov 5, 2010
MS MGR wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not being stiffed by my Company, I am being paid a fair wage for the services I provide to my employer. My employer is being forced to pay higher wages to the Union laborers, however not because the workers deserve it. While everyone would like to make more money, I am happy to receive the wages that I do as I have earned my salary. I'm not being paid more then I should be because my employer is forced to pay me. When I receive a wage increase, I know that it is because I deserve it as I perform my job duties well and feel proud that I am recognized by my employer by giving me a raise. Union workers receive wage increases based on their contracts, not due to merit. Where is their sense of pride? People with your attitude want something for nothing. At least I have integrity and self respect. I cannot say the same for many pro Union laborers who like to feel that they are "sticking it to the man."
"I don't make that much, yet I'm supposed to supervise some of the work they do." waaaa waaaaaa waaaa

Since: Feb 09

United States

#153 Nov 5, 2010
Deng wrote:
THIS IS LABOR VERSUS CAPITAL. READ SOME K. MARX AND TRY TO COMPREHEND THAT U.S. CAPITALISM FOR SURE IS OVER.
Let's see, they unionize to make more money but now have to pay dues. And in order to offset the additional costs JJ has to pay their employees, the prices of their sandwiches, et al. go up. Which in turn could drop demand some.
Not worth it. If you are unhappy working there for the wages you get, find someplace else.
<quoted text>
Labor= people
Capital= money
Guess we see where your priorities are.

Since: Feb 09

United States

#154 Nov 5, 2010
MS MGR wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not being stiffed by my Company, I am being paid a fair wage for the services I provide to my employer. My employer is being forced to pay higher wages to the Union laborers, however not because the workers deserve it. While everyone would like to make more money, I am happy to receive the wages that I do as I have earned my salary. I'm not being paid more then I should be because my employer is forced to pay me. When I receive a wage increase, I know that it is because I deserve it as I perform my job duties well and feel proud that I am recognized by my employer by giving me a raise. Union workers receive wage increases based on their contracts, not due to merit. Where is their sense of pride? People with your attitude want something for nothing. At least I have integrity and self respect. I cannot say the same for many pro Union laborers who like to feel that they are "sticking it to the man."
Union workers probably have a skill that you don't have. Anyone can type.
Deng

Chengdu, China

#155 Nov 5, 2010
see where your priorities are.
WHAT ARE DENG'S PRIORITIES?

Deng wrote:
THIS IS LABOR VERSUS CAPITAL. READ SOME K. MARX AND TRY TO COMPREHEND THAT U.S. CAPITALISM FOR SURE IS OVER.
Let's see, they unionize to make more money but now have to pay dues. And in order to offset the additional costs JJ has to pay their employees, the prices of their sandwiches, et al. go up. Which in turn could drop demand some.
Not worth it. If you are unhappy working there for the wages you get, find someplace else.
<quoted text>
Labor= people
Capital= money
Guess we see where your priorities are.
sigrid wrote:
<quoted text>
Labor= people
Capital= money
Guess we see where your priorities are.
Not as Delusional as You

Saint Paul, MN

#156 Nov 6, 2010
sigrid wrote:
<quoted text>
Union workers probably have a skill that you don't have. Anyone can type.
Yep, those ST Paul street repair laborers are especially skilled in shovel leaning, sleeping three to a truck, and getting the minimum amount required done. It might take someone minutes to learn those skills.
MS MGR

Minneapolis, MN

#157 Nov 6, 2010
sigrid wrote:
<quoted text>
Union workers probably have a skill that you don't have. Anyone can type.
From the looks of many of the posts on Topix...not really.

Since: Jul 09

St. Paul

#158 Nov 6, 2010
All the time?

Sounds more like poor management.

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