THE NURSING STRIKE: A list of affecte...

THE NURSING STRIKE: A list of affected hospitals

There are 24 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jun 10, 2010, titled THE NURSING STRIKE: A list of affected hospitals. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

When: The strike by 12,000 nurses started at 7 a.m. outside 14 metro area hospitals.

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Chuck

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Jun 10, 2010
What a bunch of hypocrites! They are putting hundrerds of children, seniors and other patients at risk for their selfish desires. When someone says, "Well, it's not about the money" - IT IS ABOUT THE MONEY!!! Especially when it comes from a union. These nures are making on average $79,000 a year and ten to one money is part of the equation. Unions are self-serving and those who truly benefit are the union bosses.
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Minneapolis, MN

#2 Jun 10, 2010
The flew nurses in from other states, aren't nurses licensed by the State of MN? So I wonder how they can bring them in from other states to legally work as a nurse? Interesting.

Since: Apr 08

Twin Cities

#3 Jun 10, 2010
Chuck wrote:
What a bunch of hypocrites! They are putting hundrerds of children, seniors and other patients at risk for their selfish desires. When someone says, "Well, it's not about the money" - IT IS ABOUT THE MONEY!!! Especially when it comes from a union. These nures are making on average $79,000 a year and ten to one money is part of the equation. Unions are self-serving and those who truly benefit are the union bosses.
This strike has been a long time coming. Affected hospitals had ample time to recruit temporary nursing staff for the interim and have done so. Patient safety is the nurses' number one concern and reason for the strike. As a fairly frequent patient myself, I applaud the nurses' for standing up for this issue. I've seen first hand how they are run ragged every shift, covering too many patients and too many tasks for twelve hour stretches at a time. It's not about money, it's about patient care.
Gramps

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Jun 10, 2010
ZenBirdist wrote:
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This strike has been a long time coming. Affected hospitals had ample time to recruit temporary nursing staff for the interim and have done so. Patient safety is the nurses' number one concern and reason for the strike. As a fairly frequent patient myself, I applaud the nurses' for standing up for this issue. I've seen first hand how they are run ragged every shift, covering too many patients and too many tasks for twelve hour stretches at a time. It's not about money, it's about patient care.
I have to agree with you on this. Nurses are the back bone to giving care in a hospital and unlike a doctor who schedules his time to see patients a nurse cannot. Once a doctor does his job it becomes the nurses job to take care of the patient(s). A doctor can see one patient at a time whereas the nurse takes care of many patients at the same time. Consider it this way. You can drive one vehicle at a time but how do you drive two or more at the same time. It's a pethetic situation for sure and should be corrected.
WhatTheHeck

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Jun 10, 2010
Chuck wrote:
What a bunch of hypocrites! They are putting hundrerds of children, seniors and other patients at risk for their selfish desires. When someone says, "Well, it's not about the money" - IT IS ABOUT THE MONEY!!! Especially when it comes from a union. These nures are making on average $79,000 a year and ten to one money is part of the equation. Unions are self-serving and those who truly benefit are the union bosses.
Why is it health care facilities & now people like you think medical staff shouldn't be paid a decent salary for what they do? Do you realize the education that goes into becoming a registered nurse? Do you realize the pressure that goes into doing the job? You can bet the bigger part of the strikes IS patient care. How would you like to go into work (if you work) and find out you have to do four times a reasonable work load during your shift? You wouldn't like it much. In fact would you even be able to do it? I've never worked in a hospital, but I have worked at nursing homes and have seen nursing home administration have the NERVE to go home at night KNOWING full well there were only TWO nursing assistants to handle the work load of SIX nursing assistants. How do I know? I WAS ONE of those two individuals. Oh! And this was after a tornado had struck the nursing home and there was no electricity other then out in the halls for emergency. We worked that way for a week. I earned $8.50 a hour and had to pay union dues to get those wages. I quit because I had to for physical reasons. I couldn't physically do it anymore. One of my co-workers finally told them she wasn't going to do it because she couldn't. Good for her! I've worked with some good medical staff and I can too you - FIRST priority IS the patients. It's why you get into the work in the first place. The trouble is, you only get to deliver inadequate patient care because the medical facilities are too busy collecting $$$$$'s for themselves. Ha! If you think $79,000 is a sky high wage - what do you think hospital administration gets paid? And they get to go home at night and get to leave the REAL work load to others. If you think $$$$'s is the reason for strikes, think again. They want to deliver QUALITY patient care a whole lot more, but their hands are tied behind their backs.
WhatTheHeck

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Jun 10, 2010
I can guarantee you, those who have received care from a nurse would hardly call them greedy.
Concerned Provider

Austin, MN

#7 Jun 10, 2010
I checked; none of the "replacement nurses" have been required to submit to criminal background checks. Contrast that with ANYONE who works direct patient care in a hospital who must pass such checks before being employed.
TootSweet

Boise, ID

#8 Jun 10, 2010
ZenBirdist wrote:
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This strike has been a long time coming. Affected hospitals had ample time to recruit temporary nursing staff for the interim and have done so. Patient safety is the nurses' number one concern and reason for the strike. As a fairly frequent patient myself, I applaud the nurses' for standing up for this issue. I've seen first hand how they are run ragged every shift, covering too many patients and too many tasks for twelve hour stretches at a time. It's not about money, it's about patient care.
Sorry, I'm calling bovine feces on this one.

21% salary demands in this economy, when a good number of them are making way more than people I know with four year degrees?

Furthermore, as a very frequent patient myself, enough of the Kum By Yah! I have had just as many HORRIBLE nurse experiences as I have had GOOD ones! Anyone that hasn't had, has not been as frequent a patient as me I would guess.
bill majors

Washington, DC

#9 Jun 10, 2010
Lots of nurses at home today with time to post
Danno

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Jun 10, 2010
ZenBirdist wrote:
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This strike has been a long time coming. Affected hospitals had ample time to recruit temporary nursing staff for the interim and have done so. Patient safety is the nurses' number one concern and reason for the strike. As a fairly frequent patient myself, I applaud the nurses' for standing up for this issue. I've seen first hand how they are run ragged every shift, covering too many patients and too many tasks for twelve hour stretches at a time. It's not about money, it's about patient care.
Riiiiight, all 12,000 concerned about 'care.' Like the union teachers all concerned over kid's education. These pathetic groups use our health and kids care as hostages.
Gramps

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Jun 10, 2010
TootSweet wrote:
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Sorry, I'm calling bovine feces on this one.
21% salary demands in this economy, when a good number of them are making way more than people I know with four year degrees?
Furthermore, as a very frequent patient myself, enough of the Kum By Yah! I have had just as many HORRIBLE nurse experiences as I have had GOOD ones! Anyone that hasn't had, has not been as frequent a patient as me I would guess.
I just noticed your "Boise, ID" address. This strike happens to be in St. Paul & Minneapolis, Minnesota area. Maybe you have different type nurses in your area then we have here in our Twin Cities area. I too have been hospitalized several times and will stand on a point that "our" nurses are placing the strike problem based on patient care as there is not enough nurses taking care of the work load for taking care of all patients properly. I could care less about how many people you know who have a 4 year degree and making less money then nurses. Just because a person has a 4 year degree doesn't mean a damn thing compared to what these nurses are going through. You sound like some patients who expect to be waited on hand and foot and hold a grievence because you weren't without taking into consideration of how over worked and they are trying to keep up with the work load assighed to them. Patient's safety comes first with these nurses. They not only have a degree but have to be licensed too.
TootSweet

Boise, ID

#12 Jun 10, 2010
Gramps wrote:
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I just noticed your "Boise, ID" address. This strike happens to be in St. Paul & Minneapolis, Minnesota area. Maybe you have different type nurses in your area then we have here in our Twin Cities area. I too have been hospitalized several times and will stand on a point that "our" nurses are placing the strike problem based on patient care as there is not enough nurses taking care of the work load for taking care of all patients properly. I could care less about how many people you know who have a 4 year degree and making less money then nurses. Just because a person has a 4 year degree doesn't mean a damn thing compared to what these nurses are going through. You sound like some patients who expect to be waited on hand and foot and hold a grievence because you weren't without taking into consideration of how over worked and they are trying to keep up with the work load assighed to them. Patient's safety comes first with these nurses. They not only have a degree but have to be licensed too.
Yo! Gramps! Get with the program!

ISP (that stands for Internet Service Provider, just so ya know) location does not mean squat!

I happen to be typing this in Minneapolis, and the mother companies ISP is in Boise.

The rest of your rant is your opinion, and I have mine.
awert

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Jun 10, 2010
TootSweet wrote:
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Sorry, I'm calling bovine feces on this one.
21% salary demands in this economy, when a good number of them are making way more than people I know with four year degrees?
Furthermore, as a very frequent patient myself, enough of the Kum By Yah! I have had just as many HORRIBLE nurse experiences as I have had GOOD ones! Anyone that hasn't had, has not been as frequent a patient as me I would guess.
When some folks are sick they get crabby, wether by drugs or their sickness, or maybe they just have a crappy disposition. That is another thing that nurses run into, along with some folks who are really sick. On their feet running from room to room for 8 to 12 hours or more, it is a rough job.
Gramps

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Jun 10, 2010
Sorry for the error (ISP) but do feel you should think over the nurses situations on this one day strike. Working as a volunteer at a large medical facility I never once heard any nurse complain about her/his pay check. Their major concerns are with the health and safety of their patients. I for one hate unions of today but fully support what the nurses are trying to get across with this strike. The general public hasn't been aware of these problems for many years but I am hoping this will wake them up. Now that "is" my personal opinion. So Yo yourself and get with the program.
Patti Yaritz

Minneapolis, MN

#15 Jun 10, 2010
I think nurses are Awesome Women and invite anyone who sees this to come and join this group of women for fellowship and authenticity in this world where we as women wear many roles often care givers sometimes paid sometimes not... As a parent of a child with disabilities I see more harm than good to come from overworking nurses. We are to treat others the way we want to be treated and I want to be treated with dignity and respect so I give those things to you. Come nourish yourselves with us... we know how much you give of yourselves... You are welcome and honored here...
http://www.facebook.com/home.php ?#!/note.php?note_id=125530794 147357&id=165286385459 &ref=mf
Harbinger

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Jun 10, 2010
Gramps wrote:
Sorry for the error (ISP) but do feel you should think over the nurses situations on this one day strike. Working as a volunteer at a large medical facility I never once heard any nurse complain about her/his pay check. Their major concerns are with the health and safety of their patients. I for one hate unions of today but fully support what the nurses are trying to get across with this strike. The general public hasn't been aware of these problems for many years but I am hoping this will wake them up. Now that "is" my personal opinion. So Yo yourself and get with the program.
Now I'm at home Gramps. Just ta let ya know it's still me! LOL

If the nurses want to take back thier union, and tell them to drop the salary (I won't call it what I think of it!) demands, then maybe those of us on the outside looking in MIGHT start to listen to their views on staffing. Until then I just can't find an ounce of support for them.

P.S. For the rest of the handwinging in this thread, there isn't a REAL nurse out there, that didn't know what she was signing up for when she took the job.
really

Chaska, MN

#17 Jun 10, 2010
I am not saying that nurses do not work hard on their 3-12 hour days. We all work. We all go into our chosen field of work, knowing the requirements of the job. The unions are troublesome to me. They are the ones that have pushed the strike here in Mn. The same union is also striking today in California. What a coincidence? Politics at its best. I hope that local nurses do not loose any jobs. The Northwest Airlines Strike years ago worked out well for the union employees didn't it?
ZenBirdist wrote:
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This strike has been a long time coming. Affected hospitals had ample time to recruit temporary nursing staff for the interim and have done so. Patient safety is the nurses' number one concern and reason for the strike. As a fairly frequent patient myself, I applaud the nurses' for standing up for this issue. I've seen first hand how they are run ragged every shift, covering too many patients and too many tasks for twelve hour stretches at a time. It's not about money, it's about patient care.
really

Chaska, MN

#18 Jun 10, 2010
Update: The California nurses strike scheduled for today was upheld by a judge, therefore averting over 10,000 nurses from striking. First time I will agree with a judge from California.

Just wondering how much this one day strike cost in total dollars.

Hospitals: replacement nurses costs:
hotels,meals,scouting,transpor tation,training?

Nurses union: lost wages for 12,000 nurses, picket signs, t-shirts etc.

Union: Never ending cost, nothing gained from them.

Anyone have a realistic estimate of the cost of this?
Demitrious

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Jun 10, 2010
Chuck is right! It is all about more money for the union. Most of those nurses go through a two or three year program at a technical college and are unable to put together a coherent sentence. I had nurses who were supposed to administer my meds and couldn't speak English. Most of the doctors are foreigners and need translators. Even my brothers and sisters can't speak decent English. Most nurses are too over-weight to move fast enough and owe the unions their souls.

Since: Jan 09

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#20 Jun 10, 2010
A patient to nurse ratio makes a lot of sense, adapted of coarse for the level of care that is being needed (ICU vs the "almost ready to discharge ward").

In the same token, the nurses and their union need to let the hospitals call in and let off nurses as their actual patient count goes up and down from day to day. It's only common sense that some days you will need more nurses on duty, some days you need less.

As for wanting more money at this time not so much. You can join the crowd of people wanting raises when things turn around, and things are working better.

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